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Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: fightingquaker13 on January 28, 2011, 11:09:40 PM
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WTRs question abou 4" .357s caused me to hit gubroker. I was just looking for a price point for him. However (and damn you WTR ;)) I found a pretty good deal on a Taurus CIA model. Anyone used one of these? Is it worth $250?
FQ13
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Since there is no link or photos, :-\ Depending on condition, there is nothing wrong with Taurus revolvers. My M85 Ultra-Lite +P .38 SPL, is a reliable, solid snub.
The Taurus 65, I used to own 4" Blued .357, was the same. The grips are easily swapped, (I put Hogue's) on both, and never had an issue.
$250 seems very reasonable, if it's not beat up. Is it older? Newer?
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A guy I used to work with bought a CIA .38 the week before he won a S&W J frame.
There is really no difference between the 2. He likes the Taurus better since it doesn't have the stupid lock.
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I carry the 650 from time to time. About 2 years ago I put a HiViz front sight on it. I got no complaints.
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I carry the 650 from time to time. About 2 year ago I put a HiViz front sight on it. I got no complaints.
Is the hammer fully shrouded? The Taurus web site is a little unclear on that. It looks like it is, but I was wondering if it was just bobbed. The main perk of the thing, outside of being .357, is the ability to fire from inside a pocket.
FQ13
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Fully shrouded.
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My buddies hammer was bobbed.
They sell 3 versions, regular hammer w/ spur, regular hammer /no spur, and shrouded.
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My buddies hammer was bobbed.
They sell 3 versions, regular hammer w/ spur, regular hammer /no spur, and shrouded.
Yeah, that's the irritating thing about the Taurus website. They suck on details. They don't clearly state whether the hammer is bobbed or shrouded. Their trigger rating? It would make a politician blush. Under tech details, it describes the the trigger as, and I'm not making this up, "smooth". Seriously. Trigger: smooth. What were they going to say, rough and uneven? ::) How about 5 pounds, 8 pounds etc.? What the hell is smooth? If ever there was a company hiring someone to make me less likely to buy something because of lack of full disclosure, its Taurus' with its web guys. Its an inexpensive gun. I don't expect a Colt, just tell me the truth and don't play games, I'll make my own call. Rant over. >:(
FQ13
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(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/DSCF1499.jpg)
Can't speak for the 4" CIA, but for a bobbed, shrouded, otherwise long pull trigger, it is a long, albeit smooth pull. The mechanics have take up to rotate the cylinder, and the break is predictable, and consistent, every time.
Your right, it's no Colt Match Grade. Neither is my Kel-Tec. Best guess is a 6-8+ pull. but for a Taurus, whether mousegun, snub, or 4" it is a SD pistol, not a tack driving match pistol.
It simply works, considering, the long pull "is" the safety, for a SD or carry pistol, that's a good thing. One can always tweak it, fluff & buff it, but it's a Taurus. It will go bang when pulled. If drawn for SD, when a BG is in your "space" 4,6,8 # won't even be relevant, as long as it works.
"IT" guys, web designers, make websites....not nitty gritty details of what discerning folks want to know.
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Nice looking gun, TW...makes me miss my Model 85 even more.....I've been trying to talk my b-i-l out of his for 2 years to no avail.
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(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/DSCF1499.jpg)
Can't speak for the 4" CIA, but for a bobbed, shrouded, otherwise long pull trigger, it is a long, albeit smooth pull. The mechanics have take up to rotate the cylinder, and the break is predictable, and consistent, every time.
Your right, it's no Colt Match Grade. Neither is my Kel-Tec. Best guess is a 6-8+ pull. but for a Taurus, whether mousegun, snub, or 4" it is a SD pistol, not a tack driving match pistol.
It simply works, considering, the long pull "is" the safety, for a SD or carry pistol, that's a good thing. One can always tweak it, fluff & buff it, but it's a Taurus. It will go bang when pulled. If drawn for SD, when a BG is in your "space" 4,6,8 # won't even be relevant, as long as it works.
"IT" guys, web designers, make websites....not nitty gritty details of what discerning folks want to know.
Thanks TW. And the thing is I agree. I don't expect a Rolls Royce at Ford prices. What chaps me is not teling me the facts. One of the many things I admire about kel-tec, though I'm not their number one fan, is that they put their cards on the table. I just wish Taurus did as well. Hell, I WANT to buy the gun, I just want precise specs before doing so, not gobbletygook like "smooth". If the trigger heavy, say so. I'll deal. Anyway, if the auction ends cheap, I'll own one, if not I'll buy a Bond, but it is does seem like a nice gun. I just shake my head at marketing guys who make me less likely, rather than more likely, to buy their product. There is such a thing as being too smart for your own good. Note to Taurus: gun guys generally have a low BS threshold. Just give us the facts. You'd think they'd have clued in on that earlier.
FQ13
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It does need a Hi-Vi front sight, FWIW, its a snub. When I posted my new addition post last summer, I took it apart. There was metal shavings, in the internals, and were promptly flushed out. Made a big difference.
Thankfully, photobucket has a great bit of storage.
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/taurusstripped002.jpg)
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/taurusstripped001.jpg)
This very thorough cleaning, and some TLC, made the bone on bone trigger pull, with several range trips/ break-in, and field tests, a pistol I trust.
I carry it often, put a dash of white nail polish on the front sight, and that's it.
Precise specs are hard to come by, I have stumped more gun shop employee's than I can count,....; thanks to this forum, the folks here I talk to personally, and my own research, I make my own decision, and it has proven successful.
The K.I.S.S. method works. Combat accuracy, everytime I shoot, is better than cloverleafs on paper when I'm shooting well that day, at a range.
To FQ,.... your right, most gun owners, potential buyers, etc,.. ARE getting more savvy, knowledgeable, and particular. They are not blindly buying a firearm because it made the cover of a magazine, or "somebody" thinks it's cool.
Folks like Michael Bane, are an honest advocate to our quest to just get the "skinny" without bias or prejudice, even a forum sponsored firearm. Listening to MB, proves it. If "x" firearm has an "issue" or feature worth criticism, he'll let it be known. Just like here. Many fellow members here at DRTV, thankfully and honestly, do the same. It has helped me acquire not the $1500 super gun, but a nice cost effective Taurus that works, and others along the way.
Best of luck on your auction FQ, hope it works out in your favor.
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FQ, the part of the trigger your finger goes on has no lines machined in it, it has no checkering, it is smooth ::)
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D'oh!!! ;D
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Under tech details, it describes the the trigger as, and I'm not making this up, "smooth". Seriously. Trigger: smooth. What were they going to say, rough and uneven? ::) How about 5 pounds, 8 pounds etc.? What the hell is smooth?
FQ, the part of the trigger your finger goes on has no lines machined in it, it has no checkering, it is smooth ::)
+1...."smooth" means the trigger doesn't have the grooves or serrations that many target revolvers have....doesn't have a thing to do with trigger pull.
One thing I've noticed is that Taurus seems to do well with models that have been out for several years...and the 85/605 revolvers have been out almost since Taurus' beginning....as MB says, it's "debugged" technology....
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The Taurus 605 was my first handgun purchase 7yrs ago and still my preferred carry choice. I have thousands of round thru the gun and has only required minimal maintainence.