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Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: philw on February 03, 2011, 06:00:02 AM
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for all you signal action fans
http://www.davide-pedersoli.com/tipologia-prodotti.asp/l_en/idt_73/pistols-doc-hollyday.html
A new model to complete the Western trilogy started with the Pedersoli Lightning rifle and recently continued with the Wyatt Earp cartridge side by side shotgun.
The revolver, a clearly Colt inspired design, is being offered following several requests from Cowboy Action Shooting enthusiasts from all over the world and commemorates the famous John Henry Holliday (1851-1887), nick name “Doc” for his occasional profession as a dentist.
Pistol shooter and gambler, Doc Holliday became famous after participating in the battle at the O.K. Corral of Tombstone, Arizona (October 26, 1881), siding with the Earp brothers.
The Doc Holliday revolver is chambered for the .38 Special cartridge, while offering a choice of barrel length’s (5” or 4.2”) and a nickel or blue finish.
The bird’s beak grips are chequered and the upper side has the “dp” oval logo carved in the wood. The rifled barrel, made by the broaching process, the accurate trigger system and the ideal combination of weight and balance with a typical grip make this revolver a handy and precise gun.
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Should have made able to handle .357.
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Should have made able to handle .357.
I thought he same thing
however looking to it apparently he carried the 38
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I'm sure he did, Phil. Was .357 even around then. But no matter this is today and a .357 will shoot .38 just fine for CASS so why not?
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I'm sure he did, Phil. Was .357 even around then. But no matter this is today and a .357 will shoot .38 just fine for CASS so why not?
For the same reason the retro 1876 RCMP carbine comes in only the oddball (by today's standards) .45-60 and .45-75 - it is historically correct. It's to make the "rivet-counters" happy! ;D
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Funny part is that they got the names backwards. At the OK Corral Earp used a pistol, Doc used a sawed off double barrel shotgun.
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Considering that the OK Corral gunfight took place Oct 26, 1881 and the 38 Special was introduced somewhere between 1899 and 1902, depending on your source, as an improvement of the 38 Long Colt I am pretty sure Doc did not use a 38 Special.
I am sure they chose that chambering as it is a favorite of Cowboy Action Shooters.
Sean
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http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=15493.0;topicseen
According to testimony at the Spicer hearing Wyatt used a pistol and Doc used a sawed off shotgun.
This is what Wiki says about the guns though.
How the fighters may have been armed
No revolver was found on Tom after the fight, by any witness. As noted, Tom's usual revolver remained unclaimed during the fight at the bar at the Capitol Saloon, on 4th Street and Fremont less than a block east of the gunfight. This revolver was exhibited and identified by the barkeep and by Ike Clanton as being Tom's revolver, at the Spicer Hearing. Wyatt Earp, to the end of his life, would believe that the revolver Tom had used in the gunfight had been removed from the scene by a Cowboy confederate. At least two witnesses thought Tom had obtained a revolver in a butcher shop on Allen street just before the fight, for he was seen leaving the shop with a newly-bulging pants pocket. However, he would have had to walk past the very saloon where his own revolver had just been deposited and was stored, to have carried this second revolver to the fight. The bulge in Tom's pants pocket noted by witnesses before the fight may have been the nearly $3000 in cash and receipts found on his body (he had probably actually picked up these at the butcher's shop immediately before the fight, as it makes little sense that he'd spent all night carrying around this much cash).
Even if Tom wasn't armed with a revolver the question remains about whether or not he tried to get a rifle. Virgil Earp testified Tom attempted to grab a rifle from a horse (this would have been Frank or Billy's horse) before he was killed. Wyatt thought Tom fired a revolver over "his" horse (actually it would have had to be Billy's horse, because Frank had his own and Tom had none). It's very possible Virgil was mistaken about which McLaury brother used his horse in the fight, as Wes Fuller saw Frank in the middle of the street shooting with a revolver, and attempting to get a Winchester from his own horse, and failing (the very action attributed to Tom).
Billy's revolver was taken from him empty by C.S. Fly, who emerged from his boarding house at the end of the fight to disarm Billy.
Frank's revolver, with two unfired rounds remaining in it, was recovered on the street a few feet away from Frank by a bystander, and placed next to Frank's body as it lay on the sidewalk. Frank's revolver was then taken by the coroner, Dr. H.M. Mathews, and laid on the floor of the Harwood house while he examined Billy and Tom (this would cause some confusion later, but both Billy and Frank's weapons would later be positively identified as their own, by witnesses). Both Frank and Billy were armed with Colt Single Action Army revolvers (identified by their serial numbers at the hearing later) and presumably their Winchester rifles were Model 1873 weapons to match this .44-40 cartridge. What weapons the other participants of the fight were carrying cannot be ascertained from primary documentation, and remains an open question.
The two saddled horses of Billy and Frank escaped from the fight unwounded and were later caught a few hundred feet up the street, both with Winchester rifles still in place in their scabbards.
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Check your email, Tom...I sent you some info documents I had saved on Tombstone and the events.
**Edit: Found the links on an earlier book post at this thread:
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=4578.0