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Title: Hawker Sea Fury Unlimited Air Racer
Post by: billt on February 03, 2011, 05:17:24 PM


This is the Reno Unlimited Air Racer "September Fury" doing a night run tied down at full takeoff power. They check the exhaust plume at night to make sure the 18 cylinder 2 row radial engine is banging on all 18 cylinders. You can see how hard it is to get these big radial engines started. The 9 exhaust stacks you see in the video are only half. There is another bank of 9 on the other side. The flames really show when they get it up to full manifold pressure, (1:55).  Bill T.
Title: Re: Hawker Sea Fury Unlimited Air Racer
Post by: twyacht on February 03, 2011, 06:04:01 PM
Wheel Planes, are Real Planes.... ;D

Nothing like raw horsepower.
Title: Re: Hawker Sea Fury Unlimited Air Racer
Post by: Hazcat on February 03, 2011, 07:25:18 PM
Wheel Planes, are Real Planes.... ;D

Nothing like raw horsepower.

;D


Also looked like #2 from the top was not firing real well.
Title: Re: Hawker Sea Fury Unlimited Air Racer
Post by: tombogan03884 on February 03, 2011, 08:06:50 PM
Built in timing light  ;D
 I have to say though, it really irks me when they build a classic war bird into an unlimited Racer.
Yes I realize that when it was originally done a lot of them were not classics, they were just surplus planes.
But still .........    :'(
Title: Re: Hawker Sea Fury Unlimited Air Racer
Post by: jnevis on February 03, 2011, 08:20:46 PM
Unlimiteds are bloody awesome.  I've been to Reno a few times for the races.  Mustangs have always been my favorites though.  Most of the Furies have had their British Rolls-Royce Centarurus engines with Wright R-3350 or Pratt Wasp engines and different props.
(http://strega.com/images/stories/menubg.gif)

The Bearcats are pretty cool too.  Used to talk with a guy that owned a Bearcat and Mustang but never raced them.
(http://www.rarebear.com/art/background-new-06-14-10.jpg)

Every attempt to build a modern version has failed.  Look at the Pond Racer.  designed and built by Rutan but never could get the engines cooled off enough and finally burner through the firewalls.
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ExpeBBlD-vI/SSoyDgrJpQI/AAAAAAAAARY/1ng7exXnaXg/s720/IMG_0003.jpg)
Title: Re: Hawker Sea Fury Unlimited Air Racer
Post by: crusader rabbit on February 03, 2011, 09:25:47 PM
Scotty, sounds like a bad plug in number two...
Title: Re: Hawker Sea Fury Unlimited Air Racer
Post by: tombogan03884 on February 03, 2011, 11:18:58 PM
Unlimiteds are bloody awesome.  I've been to Reno a few times for the races.  Mustangs have always been my favorites though.  Most of the Furies have had their British Rolls-Royce Centarurus engines with Wright R-3350 or Pratt Wasp engines and different props.
(http://strega.com/images/stories/menubg.gif)

The Bearcats are pretty cool too.  Used to talk with a guy that owned a Bearcat and Mustang but never raced them.
(http://www.rarebear.com/art/background-new-06-14-10.jpg)

Every attempt to build a modern version has failed.  Look at the Pond Racer.  designed and built by Rutan but never could get the engines cooled off enough and finally burner through the firewalls.
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ExpeBBlD-vI/SSoyDgrJpQI/AAAAAAAAARY/1ng7exXnaXg/s720/IMG_0003.jpg)

There was a guy named "Lefty" something that used to race a P-38 Lightning. And there's a guy who races a Corsair.
It used to seem to go in cycles, for a few years no one could touch the Mustangs, then they did something to the Radial engines that made the F8 Bearcat's the bird to beat. Not sure if any one ever raced an F-10 Tomcat, I seem to recall one.
Still bugs me when they modify the cockpit shape though  ;D
Title: Re: Hawker Sea Fury Unlimited Air Racer
Post by: philw on February 04, 2011, 01:41:51 AM
very cool
 
I love the sound of those old engines
Title: Re: Hawker Sea Fury Unlimited Air Racer
Post by: philw on February 04, 2011, 01:52:33 AM
seeing that reminded me of a Goggomobil that I saw a while ago on the interweb

Title: Re: Hawker Sea Fury Unlimited Air Racer
Post by: billt on February 04, 2011, 02:18:19 AM
The one I remember most was The Red Baron in the 70's. It was a Mustang with counter rotating propellers. It broke every record in it's day and nothing could touch it. Steve Hinton was the pilot and he almost died when it crashed. He was hospitalized for a long time, but went on to fly again. He is now the President of the Planes Of Fame Museum in Chino, California and he flies the T-33 Pace Jet at the Reno Air Races. He also still flies warbirds, and owns a P-51 Mustang.  Bill T.

(http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz50/billt460/RedBaronP-51Mustang.gif)

Title: Re: Hawker Sea Fury Unlimited Air Racer
Post by: jnevis on February 04, 2011, 01:58:14 PM
There was a guy named "Lefty" something that used to race a P-38 Lightning. And there's a guy who races a Corsair.
It used to seem to go in cycles, for a few years no one could touch the Mustangs, then they did something to the Radial engines that made the F8 Bearcat's the bird to beat. Not sure if any one ever raced an F-10 Tomcat, I seem to recall one.
Still bugs me when they modify the cockpit shape though  ;D

Lefty Gardner flew a P-38 "White Lightning"

"Big Bossman" and "Here Kitty Kitty" are the F7F-3 Tigercats from last year.
There was an F4U-4 Corsair, FM-2 Wildcat, P-40N Warhawk, and FW-190 out there as well.

The first thing they did to Rare Bear that made it un-catchable was use a modified P-3 prop and a spinner.  The original prop didn't have one and so the engine was a big airbrake out front.
Title: Re: Hawker Sea Fury Unlimited Air Racer
Post by: tombogan03884 on February 04, 2011, 05:07:59 PM
F7F DUH, I had a mental block on the multiple of 2 with Grumman.  ;D
And yes, Lefty Gardner was the guy I was trying to think of.
Wildcat seems like a poor choice for a race plane, IIRC the Zero could outrun it in level flight.
I believe there was a company in Waco Texas that was going to build full size reproductions of the FW190 and the Me 262.
A quick google did not turn up anything though.