The Down Range Forum
Flying Dragon Productions ( Michael Bane ) => Shooting Gallery on Outdoor Channel => Topic started by: NoBite on February 19, 2011, 06:52:45 PM
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First off, I really enjoyed the recent show on pocket pistols. Ed Head illustrated the concerns of a 5- or 6-shot weapon. He suggested carrying two. Short of doing that, if you wanted to carry a speed loader, is there a way to do so discreetly? I have IWB magazine pouches. But, I have nothing on hand to conceal speed loaders. Well, a jacket pocket I suppose. But, has anyone come out with something that could be worn on the belt that looked like what it wasn't? Just curious how others have dealt with this.
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When I carry my J-Frame I carry speed strips. If you have ever thought that a revolver was bulky with its thickness you will hate a speed loader.
I can carry speed strips in a cellphone pouch on the belt. They make really nice holders for them, but I had an unused cellphone pouch and liked it.
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When I carry my J-Frame I carry speed strips. If you have ever thought that a revolver was bulky with its thickness you will hate a speed loader.
I can carry speed strips in a cellphone pouch on the belt. They make really nice holders for them, but I had an unused cellphone pouch and liked it.
Clever idea. I have two speed loaders, but do not have any speed strips. I'll look into that. Thanks!
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I use Bianchi strips for my M85 snub, I can easily pocket or pouch them, they hold fast, and have held up well.
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Speed strips is the way to go. Be sure to practice the reloads with them. It's not that tough, but does take some practice.
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You may also want to try a stripper clip from a SKS. It'll hold 10 rounds securely, and you can wrap it in a hankerchief/bandana and put it in your pocket. I've carried them in mag pouches before, but it's hit or miss depending on the pouch (need a flap closure to work well).
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Good for no speed loader use a dump pouch for belt, it looks innocuous.
Better for speed loader is to put in in the pocket of the gun side jacket. The weight of the loader helps sweep the jacket out of the way on the draw. Practice and see.This was a tip to me from a Secret Service Agent who is now the chief firearms instructor at a US Government Law Enforcement agency.
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I carry a Jframe with two speed strips. Practice with the speed strips does help you get faster. After ejection, it is easy to quickly strip 2 at a time into the cylinder.
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Speed strips here as well.
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Something to look at for pocket guns, www.pocketcarrycomp.com
Blog after first match by one of the shooters.
http://bullcitydefense.com/2011/02/26/pocket-carry-and-being-last-place/
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When I carry a J-frame it is either in a coat pocket or back pants pocket. I always use a pocket holster. I carry a Variant speed loader in my front pants pocket.
My favorite is the coat carry. From time to time, I get an old jacket and practice shooting from the pocket. Nothing faster.
If you pocket carry, be sure to clean gun and loaders periodically. Even in a holster the pocket lint will gum things up.
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I use a hybrid approach when carrying revolvers. If I'm carrying a K-frame as my primary CCW, I use a Bianchi speedloader pouch that splits the load over my belt. Three rounds behind, three in front. It makes for a surprisingly easy to conceal reload. I'll also pocket a Speed Strip for use as a "tactical reload." When jacket weather arrives, I always have a second speedloader in the strong side pocket for the same reason noted by Billstryker.
If the likely threat level is low and I'm only carrying a J-frame, I'll just pocket a Speed Strip. In jacket weather I'll supplement this with a speedloader in the strong side pocket.
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I hope this doesn't appear that I'm hijacking this thread but it does concern pocket pistols. I was just viewing the latest Shooting Gallery and this is at least the 2nd time I've heard mention that rather than trying to reload the small revolver one should carry a second one. That may be well and good in your home but here in New Mexico and I suspect other states it is illegal to carry a backup gun unless you are a LEO. I wish that would be mentioned in the broadcast.
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I hope this doesn't appear that I'm hijacking this thread but it does concern pocket pistols. I was just viewing the latest Shooting Gallery and this is at least the 2nd time I've heard mention that rather than trying to reload the small revolver one should carry a second one. That may be well and good in your home but here in New Mexico and I suspect other states it is illegal to carry a backup gun unless you are a LEO. I wish that would be mentioned in the broadcast.
In many of Michael's productions they will go overboard to point out the most conservative methods and precautions. However, there is no way to cover every intricate law. Due to this all of us that carry must go back to what we were taught when we took our carry course or firearms safety course: It is your responsibility to know the laws and rules of the jurisdiction in which you are at any given time.
In New Mexico we can't carry a back up gun, but in Minnesota there is no such law. I typically carry two guns, a knife and a flashlight. I have been known to even carry three handguns (two pocket style and my full size), but that is typically in a teaching situation where I want to demonstrate the ability to conceal and to show how you have know idea who is carrying.
Here is a little known situation that makes it impossible for anyone to do more than tell you "it is your responsibility to know": Everyone knows it is illegal to carry in a post office. In our community the building the post office is in is owned by a gentleman from out of state, and he also owns what we have always assumed was a neighboring building. However, this was at one time a single building, and it is now divided into 1/3 (occupied by the Post Office), and 2/3 (occupied by an attorney (the owner's brother) and an insurance agent). Because the dividing wall is a stud wall and not considered secure, the USPS has right of first refusal on renting the other 2/3's and they have the right to control renters. This clause turns the two office areas into USPS property and illegal to carry at. Am I going to get into trouble for carrying in the offices? Most likely not. However, if the police are looking for a nit picking way to nail me this is one way. It is no different than catching DUI's by pulling over everyone with a burnt our light on their car.
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In many of Michael's productions they will go overboard to point out the most conservative methods and precautions. However, there is no way to cover every intricate law. Due to this all of us that carry must go back to what we were taught when we took our carry course or firearms safety course: It is your responsibility to know the laws and rules of the jurisdiction in which you are at any given time.
In New Mexico we can't carry a back up gun, but in Minnesota there is no such law. I typically carry two guns, a knife and a flashlight. I have been known to even carry three handguns (two pocket style and my full size), but that is typically in a teaching situation where I want to demonstrate the ability to conceal and to show how you have know idea who is carrying.
Here is a little known situation that makes it impossible for anyone to do more than tell you "it is your responsibility to know": Everyone knows it is illegal to carry in a post office. In our community the building the post office is in is owned by a gentleman from out of state, and he also owns what we have always assumed was a neighboring building. However, this was at one time a single building, and it is now divided into 1/3 (occupied by the Post Office), and 2/3 (occupied by an attorney (the owner's brother) and an insurance agent). Because the dividing wall is a stud wall and not considered secure, the USPS has right of first refusal on renting the other 2/3's and they have the right to control renters. This clause turns the two office areas into USPS property and illegal to carry at. Am I going to get into trouble for carrying in the offices? Most likely not. However, if the police are looking for a nit picking way to nail me this is one way. It is no different than catching DUI's by pulling over everyone with a burnt our light on their car.
I appreciate what you are saying but it would have been very easy just to add “where legal” to the suggestion just to appease those of us that are denied the "privilege." ::)