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Title: Barak's True Colors
Post by: jc451911 on March 05, 2008, 05:10:12 AM
Check  out the NRA's 'What They Didn't Tell YouToday' section. Dated March 4, 2008. May give more accurate insight to Osama's true feelings on gun control!!

 http://www.nra.org/
Title: Re: Barak's True Colors
Post by: cookie62 on March 05, 2008, 09:56:23 AM
He's from here in Hellinois what do you expect!
Title: Re: Barak's True Colors
Post by: 2HOW on March 05, 2008, 12:03:02 PM
Here is some other obama truths.  Obama sought moderate gun control measures, such as a 2000 bill he cosponsored to limit handgun purchases to one per month (it did not pass). He voted against letting people violate local weapons bans in cases of self-defense, but also voted in 2004 to let retired police officers carry concealed handguns.

Principles that Obama supports on gun issues:

Ban the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic weapons.
Increase state restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms.
Require manufacturers to provide child-safety locks with firearms.
He voted NO on a bill to prohibit civil liability actions from being brought or continued against manufacturers, distributors, dealers, or importers of firearms or ammunition for damages, injunctive or other relief resulting from the misuse of their products by others.

Question to Obama: When you were in the state senate, you talked about licensing and registering gun owners. Would you do that as president?

Answer: I don’t think that we can get that done. But what we can do is to provide just some common-sense enforcement. The efforts by law enforcement to obtain the information required to trace back guns that have been used in crimes to unscrupulous gun dealers. As president, I intend to make it happen. We essentially have two realities, when it comes to guns, in this country. You’ve got the tradition of lawful gun ownership. It is very important for many Americans to be able to hunt, fish, take their kids out, teach them how to shoot. Then you’ve got the reality of 34 Chicago public school students who get shot down on the streets of Chicago. We can reconcile those two realities by making sure the Second Amendment is respected and that people are able to lawfully own guns, but that we also start cracking down on the kinds of abuses of firearms that we see on the streets.

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The question is: Would Obama attempt to push new gun control measures at all? He’s begun hinting that he’ll appoint conservatives to his cabinet, like Hagel as Secretary of Defense. A wise choice. Democrats also learned during the Gore run that when they ran on gun control as an issue - they lost key rural states - they lost. Also, when the Democrats took the House and Senate during the last election it was because of new conservative leaning Democrats, candidates not favoring new gun control measures, candidates like Jim Webb. Webb is the guy whose staff person tried to bring a loaded handgun into a Senate office building - LOL. He sent a 9mm and 2 loaded clips through the x-ray! Read the link if you didn’t catch the story when it happened. But hey, no harm done. This guy was Webb’s old buddy, and HE WORKED AT THE SENATE! If anybody has a reason to carry a piece for personal protection it’s someone working there. Lots of wingnuts and moonbats out there.



Title: Re: Barak's True Colors
Post by: swifteagle on March 05, 2008, 05:20:43 PM
Both Obama & Hillary claim to "support the 2nd Amendment" - if they call what they do support, I'd sure hate to see what their actions would be like if they actually were against it!  With friends like Hillary & Obama, gun owners would not need enemies!
Title: Re: Barak's True Colors
Post by: Marshal Halloway on March 05, 2008, 05:33:42 PM

Commentary from Wayne LaPierre's blog, "What They Didn't Tell You Today"
You can access the site at http://www.nranews.com .

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Tuesday, March 04, 2008
Obama's Draconian Gun Control

I'll give the mainstream media this: They're consistent. They're consistently ignoring Barack Obama's statements that he "supports" the Second Amendment, and they're also consistently ignoring Senator Obama's repeated calls for the kind of gun control that would spell the end of the Second Amendment as we know it. 

Back in 1999, Obama called for a laundry list of gun control (http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2008_02_17-2008_02_23.shtml#1203389334), including a 500 percent increase in taxes on firearms and ammunition. He called for bans of affordable handguns. He called for mandated "smart gun" technology. He demanded that FFLs not be allowed to maintain their business within five miles of a school or a park. In short, he wanted to regulate the Second Amendment out of existence. 

To my knowledge, not one reporter has asked Obama about the positions he took back then. Nor have they asked him about the position he's taking now, "supporting" the Second Amendment in speeches while refusing to sign on to the congressional amicus brief opposing the District of Columbia's gun ban. Fifty-five of his fellow senators signed on to that brief, but Obama still pretends the issue is about "local control," not constitutional rights. 

When the mainstream media refuses to ask a presidential frontrunner about his position on an issue, you can't help but wonder why. When the issue is the Second Amendment, it can't be because the press doesn't like what Obama has to say. Maybe it's just that they don't want you to hear it.

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To get more comments on current issues and up to date information visit http://www.nranews.com.
© 2007 National Rifle Association of America
Title: Re: Barak's True Colors
Post by: tdonily on March 12, 2008, 11:28:18 AM
I had emailed him with regard to his stance on the 2nd and here's what he had to say:

--------------------------------------

Dear Friend,

Thank you for contacting me about gun laws and the Second Amendment.  I
appreciate hearing from you on this important issue.  Americans broadly
agree that guns must be kept from those who may pose a threat, and that
 the
rights of legitimate hunters and sportsmen should be protected.

We must work to ensure that guns do not fall into the hands of
 criminals or
the mentally ill through an effective background check system.  We also
 have
to strike a reasonable balance between public safety and sportsmen's
 rights.

I will continue to work for effective gun laws, including reinstatement
 of
the assault weapons ban that the last Congress allowed to expire, and
effective law enforcement. I will also speak out against the culture of
violence that traps so many of our young people.

Thank you again for contacting me on this important issue.


Sincerely,

Barack Obama

--------------------------------------

Now if that isn't just a pile of garbage!
Title: Re: Barak's True Colors
Post by: Teresa Heilevang on March 12, 2008, 11:11:22 PM
FINALLY!! A perfect place to use this animation....

(http://www.cascity.com/howard/animations/57.gif)
Title: Re: Barak's True Colors
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 13, 2008, 12:56:50 AM
Thank GOD I don't have "smellovision"
Title: Re: Barak's True Colors
Post by: Teresa Heilevang on March 24, 2008, 07:29:19 PM
Why the Obamas don't advertise their standard of living..................

By Jack Kelly

http://www.JewishWorldReview.com 
Campaigning for her husband in Zanesville before the Ohio primary, Michelle Obama described to a group of women how hard it had been for her and Barack to make ends meet:

"We spend between the two kids, on extracurriculars outside the classroom, we're spending about $10,000 a year on piano and dance and sports supplements. And summer programs...Do you know what summer camp costs?"


The burden was especially heavy because she and Barack had to repay the student loans for college and law school at Princeton and Harvard:


"The salaries don't keep up with the cost of paying off the debt, so you're in your 40s, still paying off your debt at a time when you have to save for your kids," Michelle Obama said.


Actually, Michelle's salary has kept up pretty well. The University of Chicago Hospital, where she is vice president for community affairs, bumped her pay from $121,910 in 2004 to $316,962 after her husband was elected to the U.S. Senate that year. National Review's Byron York, who covered her remarks at the Zanesville Day Nursery, noted that her new salary is roughly ten times the median household income in Muskingham County.


The Obamas also have Barack's salary as a U.S. Senator ($169,300), royalties from his two best selling books, and an undisclosed amount of income from her service on six corporate boards. But this hasn't brightened Michelle's outlook:


"We have become a nation of struggling folks who are barely making it every day," Michelle had said at a black church in South Carolina in January. "Folks are just jammed up, and it's gotten worse over my lifetime... The life that I'm talking about that most people are living has gotten progressively worse since I was a little girl."


Mrs. Obama was counting her husband and herself among the folks who are just jammed up, reported Lauren Collins of the New Yorker, who was at the Pee Dee Union Baptist Church in Cheraw when Michelle spoke there.


"You're looking at a young couple that's just a few years out of debt," Mrs. Obama said. "See, because we went to these good schools, and we didn't have trust funds." It is, apparently, America's fault that the Obamas didn't have trust funds, and unfair that they had to repay their student loans. We're a country that is "just downright mean," Mrs. Obama said.


It is true that some people in America are having trouble making ends meet. Some people in America always are having trouble making ends meet. But what Michelle Obama said is astounding. She was born in 1964. At the time, segregation was still legal. Governors in Alabama, Arkansas and Mississippi stood in schoolhouse doors to prevent blacks from attending college.


"The per capita income of African-Americans has risen sixteen-fold over the last 40 years," noted John Podhoretz of Commentary. "Black home ownership has risen tenfold. The black poverty rate has declined from 75 percent to 25 percent." But this is, I suppose, meaningless if you think piano lessons and summer camp are among the things government should guarantee everyone. Whatever gratitude Michelle Obama has for the opportunities America has provided her are overwhelmed by her resentment that some others have more than she does.


Husbands and wives often have different political views, so we should not assume Barack shares the chip on Michelle's shoulder.


But "Spengler," the erudite cynic who writes for the Asia Times, thinks the women in his life are a clue to the inner Barack. His mother, Ann Dunham, was a communist sympathizer, he noted. A childhood mentor who Barack praised in his autobiography was Frank Marshall Davis, a prominent member of the Communist Party USA. "Radical anti-Americanism, rather than Islam, was the reigning faith in the Dunham household," Spengler said.


"Barack Obama is a clever fellow who imbibed hatred of America with his mother's milk, but worked his way up the elite ladder of education and career," Spengler said. "He has the empathetic skill set of an anthropologist who lives with his subjects, learns their language, and elicits their hopes and fears while remaining at an emotional distance. That is, he is the political equivalent of a sociopath."


Spengler's is a minority view. But if he's right, we shouldn't wonder why Barack won't wear an American flag pin in his lapel.
Title: Re: Barak's True Colors
Post by: BigSaucy on March 24, 2008, 10:28:33 PM
RED FLAG WARNING or what?

Last I checked the 2nd Amendment didn't say a word about Hunter's or Sportsman legitimate or otherwise. And gosh I sure do feel better that the assault weapons ban is something he'd work to bring back. What a guy.  ???

Thanks for posting this.


Quote from: tdonily on March 12, 2008, 11:28:18 AM
I had emailed him with regard to his stance on the 2nd and here's what he had to say:

--------------------------------------

Dear Friend,

Thank you for contacting me about gun laws and the Second Amendment.  I
appreciate hearing from you on this important issue.  Americans broadly
agree that guns must be kept from those who may pose a threat, and that
 the
rights of legitimate hunters and sportsmen should be protected.

We must work to ensure that guns do not fall into the hands of
 criminals or
the mentally ill through an effective background check system.  We also
 have
to strike a reasonable balance between public safety and sportsmen's
 rights.

I will continue to work for effective gun laws, including reinstatement
 of
the assault weapons ban that the last Congress allowed to expire, and
effective law enforcement. I will also speak out against the culture of
violence that traps so many of our young people.

Thank you again for contacting me on this important issue.


Sincerely,

Barack Obama

--------------------------------------

Now if that isn't just a pile of garbage!
Title: Re: Barak's True Colors
Post by: pioneer on April 01, 2008, 04:09:28 PM
A picture is worth a thousand words. 

(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/pioneer461/Political/patriotism.jpg)

(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/pioneer461/Political/Obamaflag.jpg)(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/pioneer461/Obama/nopledge.jpg)

Title: Re: Barak's True Colors
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 02, 2008, 02:45:10 AM
He's a communist, According to accuracy in Media, the leading political influence in his life was a member of the cpusa named Frank Marshall Davis.
Title: Re: Barak's True Colors
Post by: Pathfinder on April 02, 2008, 05:14:46 AM
This man hates this country, what it was and what it is. If he has anything to do with it, he willdestroy this country from within, and he will have lots of help from like-minded commies and socialists, some of whom already inhabit bureaucratic positions within federal and state governments.

Where's Joe McCarthy when you really need him?
Title: Re: Barak's True Colors
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 02, 2008, 11:42:40 AM
Quote from: Pathfinder on April 02, 2008, 05:14:46 AM
This man hates this country, what it was and what it is. If he has anything to do with it, he willdestroy this country from within, and he will have lots of help from like-minded commies and socialists, some of whom already inhabit bureaucratic positions within federal and state governments.

Where's Joe McCarthy when you really need him?

We'll just have to fill in for him.
Title: Re: Barak's True Colors
Post by: Teresa Heilevang on April 03, 2008, 09:17:23 PM
Any Questions?

"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the
world.
I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it."
-- Barack Obama

(http://www.rightnation.us/forums/style_emoticons/default/saywha.gif)
Title: Re: Barak's True Colors
Post by: Hazcat on April 03, 2008, 09:23:37 PM
Quote from: Marshal'ette Halloway on April 03, 2008, 09:17:23 PM
Any Questions?

"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the
world.
I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it."
-- Barack Obama

(http://www.rightnation.us/forums/style_emoticons/default/saywha.gif)


I think he means "We live in the most gullible nation in the wold."
Title: Re: Barak's True Colors
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 04, 2008, 02:24:53 AM
 Barack Obama's True color ?





                                       
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