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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: oldkat69 on February 28, 2011, 03:04:32 PM
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My sons are coming of age and are interested in obtaining concealed carry permits. Unfortunately our home state of Missouri only allows permit carry at 23. (Its not hopeless as we can open carry most places and there is no restriction on concealed carry at home, in vehicles, and at your place of business.) So to the point; where , if anywhere can you get a nonresident concealed carry permit at 21? 20? 19? 18?
Thanks and Stay Safe!
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My sons are coming of age and are interested in obtaining concealed carry permits. Unfortunately our home state of Missouri only allows permit carry at 23. (Its not hopeless as we can open carry most places and there is no restriction on concealed carry at home, in vehicles, and at your place of business.) So to the point; where , if anywhere can you get a nonresident concealed carry permit at 21? 20? 19? 18?
Thanks and Stay Safe!
Unfortunately, Iowa is out for you. Our state doesn't offer non-resident non-professional carry permits.
The GOOD news is, once you have ANY state's valid carry permit, Iowa will honor it while you are within out borders.
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Unfortunately, Iowa is out for you. Our state doesn't offer non-resident non-professional carry permits.
The GOOD news is, once you have ANY state's valid carry permit, Iowa will honor it while you are within out borders.
Thanks, I read that last night
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Its 21 here in Fl., I thought that was the norm everywhere. A good reminder to check before you travel. Maybe that iphone app isn't as silly as I thought. :-[
FQ13
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Its 21 here in Fl., I thought that was the norm everywhere. A good reminder to check before you travel. Maybe that iphone app isn't as silly as I thought. :-[
FQ13
It wouldn't be, if it wasn't for the i-phone. ;D
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Its 21 here in Fl., I thought that was the norm everywhere. A good reminder to check before you travel. Maybe that iphone app isn't as silly as I thought. :-[
FQ13
Hold the phone (so to speak)! iphone app? Whatever happened to this:
Seriously, old fart bitching aside, I just want a phone. Others may want or need more. Fair enough. But I do wish that the companies would offer a basic model. Its not that I'm cheap, its just that I don't want the gizmos like a camera or internet access, or texting, gps or the like and would prefer not to pay for them. I doubt I'm alone. Am I?
FQ13
Hmmmmmmmmmm.....?
Damn! I'm at 1000 now. Guess I'll just wait in the corner for something bad to happen. :-X
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Hold the phone (so to speak)! iphone app? Whatever happened to this:
Hmmmmmmmmmm.....?
Damn! I'm at 1000 now. Guess I'll just wait in the corner for something bad to happen. :-X
I'm with you both! All I need is a phone! I did, however just get an iPod Touch and it uses the iPhone apps I'm told. I've got to look further into the app for the CCW laws.
Pecos (Did any of that make sense? Was up late watching a storm.) Late addition my state has no non-resident permit
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Hey now! I was just referring to a thread Sledge posted (He's a foriegner, get him! ;D). I still have a no frills $89 ATT special. No smoking phone here folks. ;)
FQ13
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When your sons get their CCW, check the age for non-resident in FL and UT. With those two and what ever states your own state has reciprocity with, you will have a large number of states covered.
Fl. and UT have reciprocity with many states and you get them with their non-res permit.
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I have had licenses in several states. Most will require a CC license in your home state prior to applying for an out of state license. I checked with CT and it's 21 but only after you have a resident license in Missouri. My NH permit required that I submit my MA permit as proof... Maine was the same.
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Min. age here is 186, thats resident or non ;D ;D ;D ;D
Unless you live in Chicago, then it's 192 ::)
But, you can still vote 25 years after you die. ::)
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But, you can still vote 25 years after you die. ::)
That is very democratic of them! (not sure if dead republicans get the same treatment)
23 as a minimum CCW age is pretty cheesy. If you can gamble, drink, go to jail or to war you should be able to excercise ALL your rights.
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That is very democratic of them! (not sure if dead republicans get the same treatment)
23 as a minimum CCW age is pretty cheesy. If you can gamble, drink, go to jail or to war you should be able to excercise ALL your rights.
Make that 18. If you're old enough to be drafted or be tried as an adult, you're old enough to buy a drink or a gun. Others may disagree and say it should be 21. I honestly won't argue. I just say pick an age of majority and be consistent with it.
FQ13
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I didn't check but I'm pretty sure Me and NH are both 21 for non resident CCW.
FQ, originally it was 18 for everything but many states decided that it would increase safety to increase drinking ages.
I believe the ages on guns were set by the Clinton / Brady administration.
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Minnesota is 21 for both resident and nonresident.
All rules are the same, except if you are a nonresident you can apply at any Sheriff's office, and if you are a resident you must apply at the law enforcement office under who's jurisdiction you reside.
Minnesota also issues both resident and nonresident carry permits to non-citizens with permanent residency.
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Minnesota is 21 for both resident and nonresident.
All rules are the same, except if you are a nonresident you can apply at any Sheriff's office, and if you are a resident you must apply at the law enforcement office under who's jurisdiction you reside.
Minnesota also issues both resident and nonresident carry permits to non-citizens with permanent residency.
I find this a little troubling, even if you are a permanent resident, without citizenship, I don't think that our rights as citizens should apply to you. I don't have an issue with people that have duel citizenship, but this seems too close to granting our rights to illegals.
If you want to have our rights, then you should have to have citizenship. Period.
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Minnesota is 21 for both resident and nonresident.
All rules are the same, except if you are a nonresident you can apply at any Sheriff's office, and if you are a resident you must apply at the law enforcement office under who's jurisdiction you reside.
Minnesota also issues both resident and nonresident carry permits to non-citizens with permanent residency.
I find this a little troubling, even if you are a permanent resident, without citizenship, I don't think that our rights as citizens should apply to you. I don't have an issue with people that have duel citizenship, but this seems too close to granting our rights to illegals.
If you want to have our rights, then you should have to have citizenship. Period.
This is for people like my BIL, he has been in the country LEGALLY for 20 years or more, Employed, paying taxes etc. but he retains his English Citizenship. There are advantages to that for him due to visa requirements in various countries.
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what's this concealed carry thou speakest of?
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The last time I checked you had to be 21 to even own a handgun in Michigan, but you can get your CPL at 21 too.
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This is for people like my BIL, he has been in the country LEGALLY for 20 years or more, Employed, paying taxes etc. but he retains his English Citizenship. There are advantages to that for him due to visa requirements in various countries.
I'm pretty sure that MA allows for resident aliens as well. I think they have to renew every year though at 100 bucks a pop..
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I find this a little troubling, even if you are a permanent resident, without citizenship, I don't think that our rights as citizens should apply to you. I don't have an issue with people that have duel citizenship, but this seems too close to granting our rights to illegals.
If you want to have our rights, then you should have to have citizenship. Period.
Two things JC5123:
1. The key designation is "permanent resident" status;
2. Our Constitution and Bill of Rights is based on protecting Rights endowed to us by our Creator. The document does not create or grant the Right, it just protects it.
I actually feel that U.S. citizens have a carry permit, and it is called the Second Amendment to the Untied States Constitution. Any other requirements placed on said exercise is an infringement of the Right held by the law abiding citizen. I have no problem with an alien resident needing to have a permit, but I have a hard time finding a reason denying them the exercise of this Right with minimal restriction as long as the are legal and law abiding.