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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: kilopaparomeo on March 02, 2011, 11:20:12 AM
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Interesting list. Any additions, deletions?
www.survival-spot.com/survival-blog/100-itemsnational-emergency (http://www.survival-spot.com/survival-blog/100-itemsnational-emergency)
1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy…target of thieves; maintenance etc.)
2. Water Filters/Purifiers
3. Portable Toilets
4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 – 12 months to become dried, for home uses.
5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!)
6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much.
7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots.
8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
10. Rice – Beans – Wheat
11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.,)
12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly)
13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY – note – food grade if for drinking.
16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.)
17. Survival Guide Book.
18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.)
19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.
20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)
21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)
22. Vitamins
23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item)
24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.
25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms)
26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item)
28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)
29. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many).
30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
31. Milk – Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months)
32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST)
33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST)
34. Coleman’s Pump Repair Kit
35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)
37. First aid kits
38. Batteries (all sizes…buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates)
39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)
41. Flour, yeast & salt
42. Matches. {“Strike Anywhere” preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first
43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators
44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.)
45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts
46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, “No. 76 Dietz” Lanterns
47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times)
48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting – if with wheels)
49. Men’s Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc
50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient)
51. Fishing supplies/tools
52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams
53. Duct Tape
54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes
55. Candles
56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)
57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags
58. Garden tools & supplies
59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies
60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.
61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite)
62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax)
63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel
64. Bicycles…Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc
65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats
66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)
67. Board Games, Cards, Dice
68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer
69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets
70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks)
71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water)
72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.
73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)
74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)
75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase
76. Reading glasses
77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers)
78. “Survival-in-a-Can”
79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens
80. Boy Scout Handbook, / also Leaders Catalog
81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)
82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky
83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts
84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras)
85. Lumber (all types)
86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)
87. Cots & Inflatable mattress’s
88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.
89. Lantern Hangers
90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts
91. Teas
92. Coffee
93. Cigarettes
94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,)
95. Paraffin wax
96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc.
97. Chewing gum/candies
98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)
99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs
100. Livestock
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"I have long preached that one should never be caught short in his personal stocks and armament, either in regard to the weapons or ammunition. Keep up your supply, and do not neglect the 22 rimfire, which may well turn into the "ballistic wampum" I have spoken of the past. If you have any loading equipment, stock primers, which may constitute the weakest link in the chain."
Jeff Cooper
Keep Your Stocks Up. Do not be one that needs to ever go the Superdome for "assistance" especially if it comes under the guise of any gov't entity.
Be a Boy Scout, be a McGyver, put back some extra "stuff" for a rainy day. It may happen. March 11, is the Saudi "Day Of Rage",,...
If the Saudi's fall, and disrupt oil, and the Middle East stays violently destabilized, expect $200 a barrel, $8.00- $10.00 a gallon,...and food, and every other commodity will skyrocket. Global recession.
Be Prepared.
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They missed #1
Credit
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They missed #1
Credit
I an SHTF situation you'll be lucky if your immediate family lends you five bucks.
FQ13
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Sort of narrowed it down. I don't put much faith in generators, gasoline stuff. The most basic stuff first. I figure that noise making stuff and lights are only going to attract unwanted attention.
If it came down to a sudden "run" on things, I'm going to the pool supply store first for chlorine and water containers. Then the feed and seed for seeds.
Note that #1 is guns/ammo. With that, I can "get" pretty much anything else.
1 Guns, Ammunition, Bow/Crossbow/Arrows
2 Rice – Beans – Wheat
3 Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
4 Water Filters/Purifiers - Chlorine, etc.
5 Water Containers
6 Flour, yeast & salt
7 Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
8 Vitamins and medicines, cremes, ointments, First Aid supplies
9 Wine/Liquors/Beer
10 Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Tools,
11 Matches - Candles
12 Tea & Coffee
13 Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid)
14 How-To books. Food, foraging, medicine, etc.
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Down here in Florida, if you don't have a genny and a window ac unit, you better have tons on bleach or pool chlorine.
If you can't get the summer humidity out of the house/apartment youir walls are gonna be covered in mold ASAP! Chinese drywall or not. (Trust me. It smells bad!)
Hurricane Charlie survivor
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Got to disagree. People lived in tropical climates (and still do) without air conditioning without all that mold. The trick is steady ventilation.
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Got to disagree. People lived in tropical climates (and still do) without air conditioning without all that mold. The trick is steady ventilation.
The trick is building for the climate, and all those folks that think A/C and pool filters are necessities better wake up and smell the fuel and electric bills.The fact that the average American can't live with out a cord hanging off every thing he owns, and walking is only to get from the recliner to the car are the reason oil exporting nations have you by the balls.
Any one who buys a generator expecting it to last through more than a minor disruption is the sort of idiot who's death will be no great loss to the nation. If the power goes out gas pumps don't work, how much gas you got on hand ? Enough for a month ?
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The trick is building for the climate, and all those folks that think A/C and pool filters are necessities better wake up and smell the fuel and electric bills.The fact that the average American can't live with out a cord hanging off every thing he owns, and walking is only to get from the recliner to the car are the reason oil exporting nations have you by the balls.
Any one who buys a generator expecting it to last through more than a minor disruption is the sort of idiot who's death will be no great loss to the nation. If the power goes out gas pumps don't work, how much gas you got on hand ? Enough for a month ?
If you have enough for a week, its not the disaster that will kill you. ::) Note that I am excepting farmers who have properly installed tanks to refuel machinery. But any yahoo with a garage full of ten gallon cans? Yikes! I have 11 propane cylinders for my generator and grill. I expect that to last me about two weeks, three if I skimp. That's enough for a major, but not catastrophic storm. Anything beyond that? I'll trade you the generator for a box of .22lr and some seeds. ;) :-\
FQ13
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After Katrina it was nearly a month before fuel supplies were restored. That's just natural disaster, How about another embargo ? Or the economic collapse we've been discussing, or a major terror trike that shuts down transportation, or refining ?
Find alternatives or die.
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We have rest areas here in Wyoming that are largely solar powered. Their design has always intrigued me as being both very simple, and very efficient. The relevant info is on page 2 of the PDF. Pretty cool.
http://www.dot.state.wy.us/webdav/site/wydot/shared/Public%20Affairs/Rest%20Areas/Rest%20Areas%202008_web.pdf
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Sun powered turd burners?
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Close but no cigar.
The first thing to disappear would be your FREEDOM OF INDIVIDUAL LIBERTIES!!!!!!
That's when you really find out who the true Americans are on the local Police forces as well as the Politicians :-\
The answer would probably sadden you deeply. Remember Katrina.....
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The trick is building for the climate, and all those folks that think A/C and pool filters are necessities better wake up and smell the fuel and electric bills.The fact that the average American can't live with out a cord hanging off every thing he owns, and walking is only to get from the recliner to the car are the reason oil exporting nations have you by the balls.
Any one who buys a generator expecting it to last through more than a minor disruption is the sort of idiot who's death will be no great loss to the nation. If the power goes out gas pumps don't work, how much gas you got on hand ? Enough for a month ?
A month? The area affected by the hurricane was without power for six months. Right then I realised how OPEC has this country by the short hairs. All you had to do was see almost every house running a generator. :o
Some people also need either power or ice to keep their medicines properly cool. Insulin for diabetics for example.
Trying to get air circulation is good, but when you have 90% humidity going on with afternoon showers, it doesn't work so well. Lot's of houses were condemned by the county due to mold and not hurricane damage.
And don't forget, if you were lucky enough to have your house intact or easily repaired. you still had to go to work to kepp the momney coming in. You really want to keep the windows open during a crisis while you're away?
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A month? The area affected by the hurricane was without power for six months. Right then I realised how OPEC has this country by the short hairs. All you had to do was see almost every house running a generator. :o
Some people also need either power or ice to keep their medicines properly cool. Insulin for diabetics for example.
Trying to get air circulation is good, but when you have 90% humidity going on with afternoon showers, it doesn't work so well. Lot's of houses were condemned by the county due to mold and not hurricane damage.
And don't forget, if you were lucky enough to have your house intact or easily repaired. you still had to go to work to kepp the momney coming in. You really want to keep the windows open during a crisis while you're away?
Ulmas, I was only referring to deliveries of gas for generators.
You are right though, people like diabetics who needed refrigerated meds had 2 choices, leave or die.
As for the homes, the blame lies with 2 groups of people, shoddy work by developers cranking out cookie cutter houses as cheaply as possible, and home buyers to stupid to realize that different environments require different building methods
Stick built plastic wrapped houses that may suit New England (The roofs don't shed or support the snow weight which means home owners have to rake or shovel their roofs after big storms) Suck in Fl. Well ventilated houses that might not be "Fungus factories" in Fl. are to expensive to heat up here.
The Old timer's built the way they did for reasons that post war "fast buck artists" don't give a sh#t about. You bought it, it's your problem.
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Don't forget trading currency. You may be able to trade ammo for services or neccessities, but your more likely to have to "give it away" at a high velocity. Having some gold or silver coin would be good choice. Gold for the big stuff, silver for day to day type stuff. I've been buying silver (US) coins for a while, just to have. More insurance than investment.
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@Tombogan03884: You are right on the delivery of fuel being a very fragile and easily broken item. We were lucky enough to be able to drive a little north into the next county for fuel.
I think the best "test" of this list is to keep it handy while watching what happens in Libya. Last night the news reported that 90% of everything is imported to that counrty. I wonder what's been taken/confiscated "for the greater good" -sarcasm- in Tripoly?
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Having some gold or silver coin would be good choice. Gold for the big stuff, silver for day to day type stuff. I've been buying silver (US) coins for a while, just to have. More insurance than investment.
In a real breakdown of society, gold and silver are worthless, until some organization starts to emerge. Water, food, shelter, clothing, medicine, and the know-how to use them. That's the only true trade-able fodder.
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1 Guns, Ammunition, Bow/Crossbow/Arrows
2 Rice – Beans – Wheat
3 Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
4 Water Filters/Purifiers - Chlorine, etc.
5 Water Containers
6 Flour, yeast & salt
7 Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
8 Vitamins and medicines, cremes, ointments, First Aid supplies
9 Wine/Liquors/Beer
10 Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Tools,
11 Matches - Candles
12 Tea & Coffee
13 Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid)
14 How-To books. Food, foraging, medicine, etc.
I'm with Alf....the first list was a bit over the top, no offense KPR...but, necessities are a shorter list.
This list is manageable and something I buy nearly every week of the year. Also being able to live in an environment you're not used to is important. I once lived an entire summer in a tent and found it quite comfy. It's really amazing what you can do without!