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Flying Dragon Productions ( Michael Bane ) => The Best Defense on My Outdoor TV => Topic started by: stellow on March 09, 2011, 10:43:42 PM
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Im sure each state is different, but what can a teacher legally do if a student has a weapon and attempts to attack a student or the teacher?
thanks,
stellow
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No matter what they do, they have to be alive to care about consequences.
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If you're attacked, your response should be based on the self-defense laws in your area. How that response--and the tools you may use to implement it--compares with the school's rules and policies is the tough part. If attacked on the street, your right to self-defense may be clear. By being in the classroom, an otherwise legally justified physical response may be inconsistent with the school/department of education policy. Your best bet is to choose up front what's more important: your safety or your job. Choosing in the midst of an incident won't work because too much fur will be flying.
Stay safe,
Mike
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I live by a simple code when it comes to situations like that " better to be judged by twelve than carried by six."
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I live by a simple code when it comes to situations like that " better to be judged by twelve than carried by six."
...or, if necessary, "My lawyer can beat up your lawyer...."
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I tend to agree with Bulldog on this one. If a weapon is drawn, I automatically assume the intent is to use it, and I will do what is necessary to protect myself or innocents.
I live by a simple code when it comes to situations like that " better to be judged by twelve than carried by six."
Better to ask for forgiveness than permission. I'm sorry, but with the exception of being a soldier defending my country, my job is not worth my life.
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If you're attacked, your response should be based on the self-defense laws in your area. How that response--and the tools you may use to implement it--compares with the school's rules and policies is the tough part.
Well there goes the flamethrower idea.... ;D
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Relating to Higher Education -
http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=6432 (http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=6432)
http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/InTheNews.aspx?id=14899 (http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/InTheNews.aspx?id=14899)
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Well there goes the flamethrower idea.... ;D
Why?....nothing illegal about having a can of wasp spray & a cigar lighter.... ;)
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No matter what they do, they have to be alive to care about consequences.
Says it all right there!
I am not a professional communicator in this area, so I can stand behind the "know the laws, act within the laws, but do whatever you need to do to survive" (if the law says no guns I will have no guns, if the law says no blades over four inches my blade will be no more than 3.75 inches, etc.) I have never been in or seen a fair fight, so I am not going to assume that someone coming at me is going to obey the same law I might bind myself to.
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There is no such thing as a dangerous weapon. There are only dangerous people.
If there are objects in the room, and you have clothing, you are never defenseless.
Class room ? Have you ever been hit over the head with a text book ? Trust me, it hurts ;D
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There is no such thing as a dangerous weapon. There are only dangerous people.
If there are objects in the room, and you have clothing, you are never defenseless.
Class room ? Have you ever been hit over the head with a text book ? Trust me, it hurts ;D
Especially if the spine of said book contacts the nasal area.
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There is no such thing as a dangerous weapon. There are only dangerous people.
If there are objects in the room, and you have clothing, you are never defenseless.
Class room ? Have you ever been hit over the head with a text book ? Trust me, it hurts ;D
I'll have to take your word for it. I was always accused of just chewing the covers off, and I must have because I can't remember much pain from an assault with a textbook ;D
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I certainly come down on the side of "do the least you have to, but do whatever you NEED to." I travel constantly. I can't factor in where my feet happen to be when someone decides to try to attack me. Quick Stop in Alabama, 5th Ave in Manhattan or the base of the Eiffel tower.... I'll use the skills/tools at my disposal to defend myself if I need to. The same goes for being in a grocery store, parking lot, bank or school in the town I grew up in.
Of course, I feel the same way in the opposite direction as well. For example, many people spout off about how Castle Doctrine Laws mean that they "can" shoot someone inside their own home... AFAIAC, there is still a requirement that you NEED to shoot that person because you are protecting yourself or others, regardless of the law.
-RJP