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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: Hazcat on March 06, 2008, 09:10:49 AM
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Most of y'all probably know this already but just in case...
From NRA-ILA
Anti-Gunners Launching Full-Scale Attack in Connecticut!
Tuesday, March 04, 2008
Please Contact the Joint Judiciary Committee Today!
The anti-gun push is on in Hartford. This week, two proposals very dangerous to gun owners were "raised" and could soon be considered by the Joint Judiciary Committee.
Raised Bill No. 603 would require all ammunition sold in Connecticut to be coded with an individual serial number (ammunition serialization) and entered into a statewide database at the time of sale. Encoded ammunition would be registered to the purchaser and would include the date of transaction, the purchaser’s name, date of birth, driver’s license number, and the serial number of the ammunition. Not only would this measure cause enormous increases in the cost of ammunition, but it could lead to the establishment of a database of ammunition consumers and ultimately the cessation of the sale of ammunition in Connecticut.
If that weren't enough, this legislation actually exposes gun owners to risk of criminal prosecution without them even knowing it! There is no way for the ammunition consumer to be assured that the serial number imprinted on the box matches the serial number on the rounds inside. Even if the industry can or will produce this ammunition exclusively for Connecticut, the consumers will be required to register ammunition purchases and then blindly trust that the number etched on the "base of the bullet projectile" is accurately represented on the box in which it is sold. Since the "base of the bullet projectile" is necessarily obscured by the cartridge case, it is impossible for the consumer to know if he or she has accurately "registered" their purchase.
Raised Bill No. 607 would seek to ban the sale of semi-automatic handguns not equipped with so-called "microstamping" technology. Microstamping is a failed technology that would require identifying marks to be etched into the firing pin and breech face of a firearm. The technology can easily be defeated with common household tools, has no public safety value, and adds substantially to the cost of the firearm.
Raised Bill No. 607 doesn’t stop there! It would also outlaw the private sale or transfer of long guns.
Please contact the individual members of the Joint Judiciary Committee TODAY and respectfully urge them to oppose Raised Bill No. 603 and Raised Bill No. 607! The committee members can be contacted by phone at (860) 240-0100.
List of reps at link http://www8.nationalacademies.org/onpinews/newsitem.aspx?RecordID=12162
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I think the only way to stop this nonsence is for all manufacterers to stop selling all firearms and ammunition to states that pass these ridiculous laws. Just don't make any and tell them the're not going to make any. When their police can't practice anymore they will repeal the law.
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I think the only way to stop this nonsence is for all manufacterers to stop selling all firearms and ammunition to states that pass these ridiculous laws. Just don't make any and tell them the're not going to make any. When their police can't practice anymore they will repeal the law.
I (and others here) have said the same thing! (God bless Ronnie Barrett). If you want "extra" safeties or low capacity only or if in general a MFG has to jump through extra hoops just for your state then they (mfgs) should tell them to take a long walk! Let them try to find guns and ammo for the cops and their(state pols) body guards!
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Until someone takes the company that is lobbying to get their serial numbering technology for ammunition to task, or at least gets it out into some light, they are going to continue to pop up.
-Bidah
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Most of y'all probably know this already but just in case...
Raised Bill No. 603 would require all ammunition sold in Connecticut to be coded with an individual serial number (ammunition serialization) and entered into a statewide database at the time of sale. Encoded ammunition would be registered to the purchaser and would include the date of transaction, the purchaser’s name, date of birth, driver’s license number, and the serial number of the ammunition. Not only would this measure cause enormous increases in the cost of ammunition, but it could lead to the establishment of a database of ammunition consumers and ultimately the cessation of the sale of ammunition in Connecticut.
How many times across the country is this one going to be tried? There must be some conspiracy behind this because I know already here in Washington it died in committee and I heard at least one other state it also died in committee. Who ever came up with that is trying to get it through in any one state hoping to get something started obviously.
As for the micro coding, Arnie in California did approve that one, which is why STI won't ship to California even for LEOs any longer in protest for the stupidity of something that won't work anyway.
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Ahh.. found it. I knew I had seen this somewhere... as I have said before, follow the money..
NEWS RELEASE
CCRKBA SUGGESTS INVESTIGATION OF AMMUNITION CODING CAMPAIGN
BELLEVUE, WA – The Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms today is calling on lawmakers in the states of Washington, Arizona, New York, Illinois, Hawaii and several other states to scrutinize legislation that would require ammunition coding, because it mandates a soul source monopoly for a Seattle-based company that owns the technology.
Based on a story in the new edition of Gun Week, and a look at virtually identical legislation that has been introduced in several states, CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb said there are serious questions that need to be addressed about these measures, and the effort to pass them into law.
“Sponsors of bills that would require coding of cartridge casings and bullets in their respective states have neglected to mention that there is only one company in the country with the technology, and that company has been working with a ‘hired-gun’ consulting firm that offers its help to lawmakers drafting the legislation,” Gottlieb said. “Essentially, you have state legislators working as promoters for a company called Ammunition Coding System, pushing measures in at least ten states that would mandate the use of this proprietary technology at the expense of gun owners.
“Even if the technology were licensed to various ammunition manufacturers,” he continued, “it still puts one company in a monopoly position. On its own website, the company even acknowledges that legislation would be required to implement what many gun owners believe is a back-door gun registry, by forcing dealers to keep records on who purchases ammunition.
“Creating a technology, and applying for a patent while hiring a consulting firm to push legislation that requires this technology is horribly self-serving,” Gottlieb added. “The fact that in every state these measures are being pushed, the sponsors are anti-gun lawmakers, simply adds to the suspicion.
“Giving one company a legislated monopoly in any other area would bring down a media firestorm,” Gottlieb stated. “The government would never allow it. State senators, representatives or assemblymen who get involved with this effort should ask themselves just what it’s worth to essentially be lobbyists for a monopoly.”
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Here is the company's (Ammunition Coding System) site
http://www.ammocoding.com/