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Title: Border Control.....Just An Idea,....If The Feds Won't Do It,....The Militia?
Post by: twyacht on March 15, 2011, 05:13:14 PM
"Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man gainst his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American.... [T]he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people."
(Tench Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.)

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Just a thought,... ::)

Title: Re: Border Control.....Just An Idea,....If The Feds Won't Do It,....The Militia?
Post by: Hazcat on March 15, 2011, 05:21:33 PM
Thing is tw...

I would go there with a platoon of us old fast guys from this board and anyone they might recommend.  I would feel secure in the knowledge that it would be a well disciplined and honorable group.

BUT

What would happen is a bunch of trigger happy wanna be yahoos would show up and it would get ugly.
Title: Re: Border Control.....Just An Idea,....If The Feds Won't Do It,....The Militia?
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 15, 2011, 06:02:09 PM
The Minute men have been there for years but they aren't allowed to shoot any one.
The major portion of the cure is on this side of the border.
Punish employers, since fines don't work ($10,000/ illegal , but low chance of being tried and the wage savings off set the fines ) Jail them, 6 months/ illegal, General population in a max security prison.
Cut all Govt. funding to "Sanctuary cities", Jail all municipal policy makers.
No benefits or rights for illegals, Nothing, No welfare, no Social security, no "anchor babies", and no "equal protection under the law". Those things are only for LEGAL residents.
With no jobs and no hand out there will be nothing to draw them.
Then you establish a 1/4 mile "Dead zone" along the border.
Later on you can pursue legal action against all legislatures who refused to uphold the Constitutional requirement to :
"To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;"
Title: Re: Border Control.....Just An Idea,....If The Feds Won't Do It,....The Militia?
Post by: philw on March 15, 2011, 06:06:19 PM
for some reason I like this bloke in KS, just not sure why...

http://tucsoncitizen.com/arizona-hispanic-republicans/2011/03/14/racist-kansas-legislator-virgil-peck-advocates-shooting-illegals/
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Racist Kansas Legislator, Virgil Peck, advocates shooting “illegals”

MEDIA ADVISORY


National Hispanic GOP Group Slams Rep. Virgil Peck and Demands Apology

 
For Immediate Release

Phoenix, AZ –  SOMOS REPUBLICANS are demanding an apology from Republican Kansas legislator, Virgil Peck, when he said it might be  good to control illegal immigration the way the feral hog population has been controlled — with hunters shooting from helicopters.    There are people advocating to shoot the heads off of “illegal Mexicans”, and Peck’s behavior is extremely violent and inappropriate.

We are sick and tired of the bigotry from state legislators who would rather advocate for violence and shooting people than to focus on reasonable solutions.     Hasn’t Mr. Peck learned from the mistakes of Sarah Palin when she put what appeared to be gun sight crosshairs over our Congresswoman, Gabby Gifford’s district? Has he not learned what our Congresswoman stated to that regard? Fact of the matter, Rep. Peck is also using poor methods of communication when he said we needed to “shoot people from helicopters to control immigration”. In a time of extreme tension and occasional violence over illegal immigration, such as the slaughter of a Mexican-American family in Arizona including a nine-year old girl, allegedly by Minutemen, elected officials should refrain from the use of violent metaphors. Such violent metaphors can push some unstable people ‘over the edge.’  Right now we are dealing with increased hate crimes, and Peck’s behavior in essence advocates for more.

If Representative Virgil Peck does not apologize for his extremist comments, he will wind up permanently on our unfriendly to Hispanics list for the rest of his life, and his Kansas legend will be one of bigotry.  We will also send a letter of complaint to all of those who have endorsed him, particularly the business communities who are supported by the Hispanic consumers in Kansas.  We are horrified by his remarks and he is a disgrace to the Party that was founded by Abraham Lincoln.

SOMOS REPUBLICANS is the largest conservative Hispanic Republican grassroots organization in the country committed to promoting positive, principled conservative solutions that confront our community and the nation today. Our mission is to inspire Hispanics based on our core principles: Limited Government, Right to Life, Free Market Capitalism, Low Taxes, Second Amendment Rights and Complete Legal Immigration Overhaul to join us in every state throughout the nation to change the direction of the country on behalf of Hispanics.

About Somos Republicans:


Somos Republicans is a national watchdog group and the largest Hispanic Republican grassroots organization in the nation because of our leadership that is pro immigration reform. The Mission of Somos Republicans is to promote political education and information needed to make more informed political decisions. To inspire the Hispanic people to make a difference in their lives and the lives of their neighbors through collaborative political education, volunteer commitment and responsible participation in society. Our vision is to increase the Latino Republican voting block by 100% within two years. To increase voter registration, precinct committeemen recruitment, campaign volunteering, fundraising and events to reflect quality of future Latino leadership.

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Title: Re: Border Control.....Just An Idea,....If The Feds Won't Do It,....The Militia?
Post by: twyacht on March 15, 2011, 06:57:09 PM

What would happen is a bunch of trigger happy wanna be yahoos would show up and it would get ugly.


Would it turn into a non-politically correct, think twice before you run your drugs and criminals across our borders???? There would of course, have to be a vetting process, similar to the Minuteman Movement. Not a bunch of gung-ho redneck idiots. Civilians are rounded up by the thousands every year....However, the criminal element AND HAMAS, are incorporating into the mix.

Remember, the terrorist manual found in the desert of AZ?

They are already active....

A thorough, but simple Rules of Engagement program. Remember, they (the cartels) posted they would snipe LEO's and citizens from the border.

They have already killed Border Agents, and Civilians......Time to kinda send a message.....Granted yahoos are bad, but that can be easily tamped down....

Thinking,....when yahoos wanted to counter orders of Gen. Washington, they were promptly dealt with. Can be done again.

Title: Re: Border Control.....Just An Idea,....If The Feds Won't Do It,....The Militia?
Post by: philw on March 15, 2011, 07:09:24 PM
There would of course, have to be a vetting process, similar to the Minuteman Movement. Not a bunch of gung-ho redneck idiots.


ahh crap,  I was going to see if I could get a Job  :) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Border Control.....Just An Idea,....If The Feds Won't Do It,....The Militia?
Post by: mkm on March 15, 2011, 07:24:13 PM
Something needs to be done about the border.  Why not this?

ahh crap,  I was going to see if I could get a Job  :) ;) ;)

We might catch some flak about hiring migratory workers to protect our borders.  There'd also, more than likely, be some issues about guns attempting to be smuggled from the US to Australia.  ;)
Title: Re: Border Control.....Just An Idea,....If The Feds Won't Do It,....The Militia?
Post by: twyacht on March 15, 2011, 07:36:20 PM
ahh crap,  I was going to see if I could get a Job  :) ;) ;)

philw, you would have a Minuteman Status emeritus, position....After all, we are all part of a diverse culture,....that likes good firearms, good women, love of country, and well,...good beer.

However, this country has a flaw with a porous border. Especially to the South, there is dealing with it realistically, or dealing with it politically.

One has better results.
Title: Re: Border Control.....Just An Idea,....If The Feds Won't Do It,....The Militia?
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 15, 2011, 07:37:53 PM
Thing is tw...

I would go there with a platoon of us old fast guys from this board and anyone they might recommend.  I would feel secure in the knowledge that it would be a well disciplined and honorable group.

BUT

What would happen is a bunch of trigger happy wanna be yahoos would show up and it would get ugly.

If the objective is to stop illegal immigration being "trigger happy" is a job qualification. Shoot the men, lead the children more, the women a little less.  DUH.
Title: Re: Border Control.....Just An Idea,....If The Feds Won't Do It,....The Militia?
Post by: Pecos Bill on March 15, 2011, 08:24:23 PM
I agree we need to control the border. I have a problem with having someone demand that I be bi-lingual in my own country! But sometimes I can't help but think the American Indians are laughing their collective butts off about all this.

Pecos
Title: Re: Border Control.....Just An Idea,....If The Feds Won't Do It,....The Militia?
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 15, 2011, 10:09:50 PM
I agree we need to control the border. I have a problem with having someone demand that I be bi-lingual in my own country! But sometimes I can't help but think the American Indians are laughing their collective butts off about all this.

Pecos

The American Indians were victims of history, They were the last victims of the "Great westward migration" starting with the Aryan's moving north west and the Mongols moving West, the Indians fell to the exact same population weight that crushed the Roman Empire.
We on the other hand are victims of a hostile invasion aided and abetted by our own politicians.
Title: Re: Border Control.....Just An Idea,....If The Feds Won't Do It,....The Militia?
Post by: kmitch200 on March 15, 2011, 11:45:23 PM
From the Somos Republicans:
To inspire the Hispanic people to make a difference in their lives and the lives of their neighbors through collaborative political education, volunteer commitment and responsible participation in society.

OK, that's the legal citizen hispanics. 

When do the illegal aliens start to follow this train of thought and action??

I've seen up close and personal them 'making a difference in the lives of their neighbors' and their 'participation in society'.
No freaking thanks. Be a tick on someone elses dog.
Title: Re: Border Control.....Just An Idea,....If The Feds Won't Do It,....The Militia?
Post by: tt11758 on March 16, 2011, 10:46:40 AM
Perhaps the Kansas legislator being criticized is simply taking a page from the illegals' playbook.


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My carefully thought-out response to the bearer of that sign.....being phrased as gently and tactfully as I can manage....would go something like this.................

"F**k you, asshole!!  Go the hell home!!!!"
Title: Re: Border Control.....Just An Idea,....If The Feds Won't Do It,....The Militia?
Post by: JC5123 on March 16, 2011, 12:25:59 PM
How do they get away with signs like that?????????????

1st, he's most likely illegal, so first amendment rights do not apply.
2nd, first amendment rights, even if they did apply, still do not allow for threats against the lives of other Americans.

Of course this was a Democrat sponsored rally, so death threats are overlooked. Kinda like in Wisconsin.  ::)
Title: Re: Border Control.....Just An Idea,....If The Feds Won't Do It,....The Militia?
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 16, 2011, 03:16:40 PM
How do they get away with signs like that?????????????

1st, he's most likely illegal, so first amendment rights do not apply.
2nd, first amendment rights, even if they did apply, still do not allow for threats against the lives of other Americans.

Of course this was a Democrat sponsored rally, so death threats are overlooked. Kinda like in Wisconsin.  ::)

Democrats and leftists have committed almost all non Muslim political violence in US history.
OKC bombing, and the Aryan Nations murder of Alan Berg are the only 2 exceptions I can think of in the last 50 years.
Even the Ruby Ridge and Waco atrocities were carried out by Democrats.