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Title: short (receiver length) fiber optics for AR?
Post by: Bic on March 15, 2011, 09:09:09 PM
I know I've seen them somewhere!......who makes that short radius front & rearsight one piece systemTru-Glo, Hi - Viz?
Title: Re: short (receiver length) fiber optics for AR?
Post by: twyacht on March 16, 2011, 06:53:56 PM
I think it was optics planet .com,...

http://www.opticsplanet.net/truglo-tritium-fiber-optic-sight-ar-15-tg131ar.html

How is the build coming along?
Title: Re: short (receiver length) fiber optics for AR?
Post by: Bic on March 17, 2011, 09:05:33 AM
The build is progressing at a snail's pace, I'm still at the parts gathering stage - scrounging as much as I can from others 'scrap boxes' :) waiting for a Delta ring tool to arrive and trying to build up the courage to remove the front sight tower from my DelTon to replace it with one of the aforementioned scrounged multirail gas blocks  :-\
The sight system I saw had (I think) both front & rear  on a single picatinny rail giving a very short sight plane and was only recommended for up to about 50yds..............maybe I dreamt it :-[

MP
Title: Re: short (receiver length) fiber optics for AR?
Post by: Bic on March 17, 2011, 09:19:40 AM
OK, I guess this was it:

http://www.brownells.com/1/1/42602-ar-15-short-range-tactical-sight-jp-srts-short-range-sight-j-p-enterprises.html

Not fibre optic at all, just multi colour poly options for the front  :-[

Soooooooooo, if any of you would like to start manufacturing 6", 1 piece, low profile, fiber optic sights for a picatinny rail - I'll be happy to be your only customer  :)


MP
Title: Re: short (receiver length) fiber optics for AR?
Post by: twyacht on March 17, 2011, 09:30:16 PM
I know I am considering an offset 45 degree slant angle mount for some form of truglo style BU sight.

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Yankee-Hill-Machine-9691A-5-Slot-Angle-Riser-p/yhm%209691a%205slot%20angle%20riser.htm

Either for a light, laser, or Bushmaster had a great package for offset BUIS that were fiber optic, or tritium night options.

Held one at the NRA show last May, It's amazing how easily functional an AR is if a primary optic fails, and one has to "cant" the rifle to utilize an offset sighting option.

Lots of options Bic, I'm sure the "scrounging" will be to your advantage of a great build.

Scrounging worked very well for Tuco,.... ::)


Title: Re: short (receiver length) fiber optics for AR?
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 23, 2011, 03:27:04 AM
OK, I guess this was it:

http://www.brownells.com/1/1/42602-ar-15-short-range-tactical-sight-jp-srts-short-range-sight-j-p-enterprises.html

Not fibre optic at all, just multi colour poly options for the front  :-[

Soooooooooo, if any of you would like to start manufacturing 6", 1 piece, low profile, fiber optic sights for a picatinny rail - I'll be happy to be your only customer  :)


MP
Uh, this sounds a whole lot like an eotech. A quick, low light, short radius sight that's good to about 100 meters. Buy one, you'll thank me for the recomendation. As far as batteries, I am 18 months into owning one and still on my first set of 2AAs (I turn t off when not in use). The batteres are common as dirt and you can stick an extra set in your gear and not even notice they are there. FWIW.
FQ13
Title: Re: short (receiver length) fiber optics for AR? - build update
Post by: Bic on March 30, 2011, 12:14:48 PM
OK - I attended the new San Antonio Guns Show last weekend and was able to buy some more gear for this new rifle.
Using a DPMS parts kit the 'build' went OK, kinda. The mag latch was a BITCH to fit  >:( requiring much filing on it's upper and lower surface before it came close to fitting in it's 'ole and those trigger guard roll pins don't exactly slide in do they?! - everything else was easy enough and I somehow ended up with a really good trigger pull  :o.
I also purchased a DPMS quad rail upper complete with BUIS's and the LW contour barrel that I wanted, everything has now been suitably torn apart and stirred and mixed with the components of my existing HB (.750 DelTon ) and I have the LW 'truck gun' I wanted:
 (http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff372/StuartCowley/P1000770.jpg)

and an almost complete lower
 (http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff372/StuartCowley/P1000769.jpg) just requiring a'target/tactical' style stock (recommendations?)

MP
Title: Re: short (receiver length) fiber optics for AR?
Post by: capbyrd on March 30, 2011, 03:48:00 PM
I love my PRS.  Although I haven't bought an upper for this lower yet. 


(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c104/Capbyrd/My%20Guns/43b78492.jpg)


And it has a trigger now.  The trigger was at Bill Springfield's place getting worked over.

Title: Re: short (receiver length) fiber optics for AR?
Post by: Bic on March 30, 2011, 05:18:42 PM
Yeah those are way cool, I may just have to put an A2 on it and save up for the Magpul like yours.
Title: Re: short (receiver length) fiber optics for AR?
Post by: twyacht on March 31, 2011, 03:41:22 PM
VLTOR's are not too pricey,... :-\ +/- $100. I put one on mine. There is a MAGPUL Stock for $79 at Brownells, does not come with tube but those should be easily accessible.  bravocompanyusa.com also carries the adjustable version.

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/Frank2001.jpg)

FWIW, ditch the A2 grip and get the Falcon Industry Ergo Grip. brownells, has them. Even in camo. (Unless you particularly like the grip)....

Nothing like a fine mallet to get those TG pins in. I went the oversize MAGPUL version,...only one pin,...$12.00
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/Frankenstien001.jpg)

Coming right along Bic. Should turn out great for you.





Title: Re: short (receiver length) fiber optics for AR?
Post by: Bic on March 31, 2011, 06:55:28 PM
Yeah, I actually have an A2 take-off with all the fixins, but it came off aColt (I'm told) and the buffer tube will only thread into the action about 1/4". It has been mentioned by a local gunsmith that the receiver has been 'painted' - I guess as opposed to phosphated? and that maybe the problem. A mil-spec stock wouldn't even start to fit into commercial receiver...........would it? Or were Colt's so different to both?
Title: Re: short (receiver length) fiber optics for AR?
Post by: twyacht on March 31, 2011, 08:00:20 PM
The diff. between the mil-spec and/or commercial is small yet pronounced. I would send m25operator, or bafsu a detailed inquiry. The threads are the same, however the diameter is just that much of a difference.

Similar to Colt's large hole diameter. Colt, did gum up the works with receivers and different sizing. .125 vs/.165 sizing. yet somehow, barrel dimensions remained the same. ???

There is an easily resolvable solution, I just defer to the guru's for the resolution of those nuances. M25 can give you a solution easily.
Send him a PM.

Title: Re: short (receiver length) fiber optics for AR?
Post by: Bic on April 03, 2011, 07:27:18 AM
Well, that nasty A2 grip came in useful for something  -  holding the lower in my vice while spending all morning threading the tube into it!
I tried many different lubricants as 'cutting fluid' and WD40 seemed to work best, but it was still quite a workout, the guys from whom I bought the action suggested a strap wrench but I found a wrench on the buffer tube 'nut' worked better. I'd have to suggest staying away from 'anodised' stripped lower receivers in the future.

MP
Title: Re: short (receiver length) fiber optics for AR?
Post by: MikeBjerum on April 03, 2011, 09:26:17 AM
Lots of good advice and porn, but I haven't seen any stamped with the "toe of approval"  ;)