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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: twyacht on April 13, 2011, 08:31:40 PM
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Well, the CEO, and "creative director" of J. Crew clothing, thinks it's "great"...
Child Rearing 101: Would You Paint Your Son’s Toenails Pink?
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Would you paint your son’s toenails at all?
As The Blaze blogged about yesterday, at least one mother would: Jenna Lyons, the president and creative director of J. Crew, the prim, proper, and preppy clothing brand.
In a feature on the website called “Saturday with Jenna,” Lyons is pictured with her young son Beckett–and his toes are painted neon pink. In a caption nearby, Lyons declares, “Lucky for me I ended up with a boy whose favorite color is pink. Toenail painting is way more fun in neon.”
But some child rearing experts see foul play here. Dr. Keith Ablow, no stranger to us at The Blaze, reacted by noting, “This is a dramatic example of the way that our culture is being encouraged to abandon all trappings of gender identity.”
He went on:
If you have no problem with the J. Crew ad, how about one in which a little boy models a sundress? What could possibly be the problem with that?
Well, how about the fact that encouraging the choosing of gender identity, rather than suggesting our children become comfortable with the ones that they got at birth, can throw our species into real psychological turmoil—not to mention crowding operating rooms with procedures to grotesquely amputate body parts? Why not make race the next frontier? What would be so wrong with people deciding to tattoo themselves dark brown and claim African-American heritage? Why not bleach the skin of others so they can playact as Caucasians?
Erin Brown of the Media Research Center said the ad was “blatant propaganda celebrating transgendered children.”
But author Jo B. Paoletti, who wrote Pink and Blue: Telling the Girls From the Boys in America, asks “what’s the big deal?”
“Lots of kids, say seven and under, might ask their parents for something that would seem to be cross gender, and I think most parents, especially in the privacy of their own home might think, what’s the big deal?”
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I remember my son at about 6 or 7 asking about "why do "girls" paint their fingers and toes"?
Because THEIR GIRLS!!!!....End of discussion.....It's a GIRL THING,.....(He never mentioned it again),....IT"S CALLED BEING A PARENT!!!!!
This is how folks like Lindsey Graham get brought up.....I'm at a loss beyond that....
Geez....
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And here I thought this post might be about yours or Haz's kid. I mean hell, if they ever post a gun pic, we'll be seeing toes. Why not do something to distinguish themselves from the old man? Pimp my toes. ;D
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Absolutely not. They are trying to condition us to readily accept G/L/TG people as a norm in our society. It's on just about every lame network TV show, the movies, and now ads. I don't generally have an issue with these folks. What they do in their personal lives is just that, personal. As long as they do not try and push it on me, I will not have any issues with them. I think this and the padded bra swimsuits for little girls takes it a step too far. Some of the crap my wife had on this morning, i think it was the Today show, had all kinds of people saying it was OK, no need to overreact, and some dude has a son that likes to wear dresses. Pics of him playing in trees, running track, etc. Kids need to stay kids and not be brainwashed into this type of thinking. Just my .002 cents...(due to the crummy economy) :P
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Well that's one reason not to buy that clothing line (not that I'd ever heard of them). :-\
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I wonder what this skank mother would do if her son decided he wanted to explore his gender identity by, you know, wearing a 2-gun buscadero complete with pistols. Somehow I think she would think that crossed the wrong line somewhere.
And our descendants will be stuck paying for her descendant's mental health care - and possible clean-up costs after he goes postal in some fashion.
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MFW strikes again.
add that to the never ending list why the world is doomed with all this new age poofterism being so rampant
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While I certainly wouldn't paint my son's toenails pink (or any other color) this sort of thing can be of some benefit to those of us who have a solid gender identity.
An example: In my youth I spent some time as one of the few remaining heterosexual males in the fine city of San Francisco. Now, I didn't have an actual line of females waiting to be serviced, but there certainly was no shortage. ;D
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I wouldn't paint a boy's toenails but I did let my niece paint one of mine. She laughed like crazy. I laughed too.
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Lesson one in why so many boys raised by women grow up to be faggots, if not out right homosexuals.
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Jumbo.. that is just being a good uncle/ daddy etc...
I remember about a month or so ago that my oldest son Danny was letting his 9 yr old daughter ( Ashley) paint his fingernails.. toenails.. and put make up on him.. of course no one had had nightly showers yet so it was no big deal.. Just a good daddy being tolerant of his little girls playtime. Until Corky..the Schwann man pulled up.. LOL Good thing they were high school buddies.. and Corky raised a daughter too) they had a good laugh about it.. Ashley still remembers it and laughs..
I remember my girlfriends' little boy liked dolls.. Her husband was freaking out about it.. but hell the little kid was a yr and a half old! He played with trucks too.. by age 2 the dolls were no longer an interest and he was all boy from there on.
You all DO realize that we have a double standard here don;'t you? I am just as bad as the next one on it too.
Its ok for little girls to hunt and fish and wear jeans and be a tomboy.. preferring boys activities instead of dolls etc... But its not at all acceptable for boys to want to do what girls do..
I think we need to encourage gender activities and routines to coincide with the gender of the child.9 times out of 10 they carry through it with no problem and grow up to be comfortable with their own sexuality.
If they are not...and later down the line they are capable of understanding what and who they are... and they choose a different path.. then that is their choosing.. but to me... to encourage female attributes to little boys is just creepy somehow.
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M'ette, painting toes on a little boy is nothing like teaching a girl to hunt or fish. I (tried to) teach my boys to cook, clean house, etc. My Mom also made damn sure we boys knew how to sew as well - life survival skills. And yes, my granddaughter has cars and trucks as well as dolls and My Little ponies.
The woman in the OP is a half-assed libtard who is warping her kid and laughing about it, thinking it "cute".
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These are the same people that dress their daughters up to look like 19 yo debutantes and parade them around in pageants that are more about satisfying the parents needs for attention than doing anything positive for the child.
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M'ette, painting toes on a little boy is nothing like teaching a girl to hunt or fish. I (tried to) teach my boys to cook, clean house, etc. My Mom also made damn sure we boys knew how to sew as well - life survival skills. And yes, my granddaughter has cars and trucks as well as dolls and My Little ponies.
The woman in the OP is a half-assed libtard who is warping her kid and laughing about it, thinking it "cute".
Part of me thinks you are right and part of me is rolling my eyes over this. I mean we live in an age of tattoos, piercings and what not. Half the "bad ass" rockers wear goth make up. Remember when having long hair made you a sissy, or a woman in pants (or not riding side saddle) was a slut? Hell, what happened to "girl's bikes"? The thing is, it is wise to remember the words of Thomas Jefferson. "In matters of fashion, flow with the river. In matters of principle, stand like a rock". This too shall pass, it ain't a matter of principle. Hell, if painting your toenails turned you queer, we'd all be in danger and never enter a store that sold nail polish. ::) ;D
FQ13 Who dares anyone to look at their prom picture and not cringe. ;D
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If the kid got teased about it by all his school mates I bet he would quit. Maybe he needs to learn the hard way that it's not normal. Real men "do" their nails with a pocket knife. ;D
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Don't have a son and never really wanted one! When my daughter was conceived, we never considered any boys names and we didn't really know what chromosome was in the mix.
As to toenail painting, I too have had my little girl paint my fingernails, braid my hair and do the cute daddy thing! No big deal there...
Now, as too "bad ass rockers"? They don't exist.....rockstars, actors, et al are just insecure people who need constant reassurance that their not dipshits! In fact, I know far nicer people that make "bad ass" sort of an endearing compliment! ;)
Getting dragged to the Prom wasn't in my DNA....skipped that, Homecoming and most anything remotely that sissified! And, BTW, I'm a very good dancer! It's how I met my wife!
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M'ette, you are a woman and therefore genetically incapable of "getting it" on this point. Even so, I bet YOUR boys never wore nail polish, at last not on their nails, spills and other misadventures don't count ;D
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John Wayne, Gregory Peck, Gene Autry, Errol Flinn, Burt Lancaster, and Clint Eastwood, and my Grandfather, Father,,,,Son, ME,...NEVER, had their toes ( or anything else ) painted.
Geez, Douglas MacArthur, and Pershing, let alone Gunny R. Lee Ermey would be slapping us by now....
The context is cute, but the repercussions are real.... Ask your Grandfather if his nails were ever painted....
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It is pretty darn funny when someone falls asleep in a chair at the fire station and wakes up with painted nails. ;D ;D
Big difference though in kids and grown men acting like kids.
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John Wayne, Gregory Peck, Gene Autry, Errol Flinn, Burt Lancaster, and Clint Eastwood, and my Grandfather, Father,,,,Son, ME,...NEVER, had their toes ( or anything else ) painted.
Geez, Douglas MacArthur, and Pershing, let alone Gunny R. Lee Ermey would be slapping us by now....
The context is cute, but the repercussions are real.... Ask your Grandfather if his nails were ever painted....
Not to burst your bubble TW, but I can think of at least two roles where R. Lee Ermey (yes that one) played gay or bisexual characters. ;D
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You REALLY need to list those.
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You REALLY need to list those.
Ask and ye shall recieve.
He was in a truly bad "comedy" called "Saving Silverman". Here he played a homicidal PE coach (Yes, I know it was a stretch for him. ;D). He wound up with Jack Black, his former student, in a very sweet and touching romance if you don't mind the nausea induced by watching the Gunny tongue kissing another man,(not to mention a little homicide and kidnapping) :o :P.
He was also in a couple of Law and Order SVU episodes where he played a recently released rapist that used his "cell bitch" to do his bidding.
Neither showed his toes, as they were not filmed by Haz or TW, so I cannot state whether he was wearing polish or not. ;D ;D ;D
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John Wayne, Gregory Peck, Gene Autry, Errol Flinn, Burt Lancaster, and Clint Eastwood, and my Grandfather, Father,,,,Son, ME,...NEVER, had their toes ( or anything else ) painted.
Geez, Douglas MacArthur, and Pershing, let alone Gunny R. Lee Ermey would be slapping us by now....
The context is cute, but the repercussions are real.... Ask your Grandfather if his nails were ever painted....
"The Duke" had quite an extensive doll collection from what I recall!
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Those weren't doll's, they were ex wives . ;D
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My wife painted my sons toenails on request until he was 5. I did step in on no pink but that led to rainbow colors which may have been worse. When he turned 5 I put a stop to it.
Today, now as a 5yo, he went to school with a mohawk.
I pretty much et him express himself however he wants.
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My wife painted my sons toenails on request until he was 5. I did step in on no pink but that led to rainbow colors which may have been worse. When he turned 5 I put a stop to it.
Today, now as a 5yo, he went to school with a mohawk.
I pretty much et him express himself however he wants.
You sir, are an evil son of a bitch. It takes all the fun out of rebelling when your folks support you. Hell, the poor kd is going to wind up listening to Lawrence Welk as his act of teen rebellion. ;D
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You sir, are an evil son of a bitch. It takes all the fun out of rebelling when your folks support you. Hell, the poor kd is going to wind up listening to Lawrence Welk as his act of teen rebellion. ;D
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or some EMO with purple hair and tongue and eyebrow piercings.
I liked the LW show....growing up,.....but we only had 4 channels back than...... ::) Who could forget the Beer Barrel Polka???
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Who could forget the Beer Barrel Polka???
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I used to bar tend at the Polish clubs during Pulaski days in my home town of Grand Rapids back in the day! I've been trying to forget the BBP for thirty years!
I normally wore the Pulaski red tee shirt with the Phoenix on the front and "Erin go Bra-ugh!" screen printed on back!
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ok it starts with the nails
ends up with this
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/boy-10-in-sex-change/story-e6frf7l6-1226040236309
Boy, 10, the youngest Australian to have sex change
Jamie has lived like a girl for two years, now a court says he can have sex-change therapy.
A COURT has allowed a 10-year-old boy to become the youngest Australian to have sex-change therapy.
The boy, known as Jamie, has lived as a girl for two years, dressing in feminine clothes, using the girls' toilet at school and "presenting as a very attractive young girl with long, blonde hair", the court heard.
Jamie's parents, medicos and psychiatrists feared early-onset puberty could lead to self-harm or suicide and supported an urgent application for the child to receive sex-change therapy.
Family Court Justice Linda Dessau ordered that Jamie be allowed to start drug therapy to stop male puberty and that the court reconvene when she turned 16 to consider approving the second stage of taking female hormones to feminise the body.
The court heard Jamie saw herself as a "freak" and a "girl in a boy's body", and had first identified as a girl when she was a toddler.
Her mother said though doctors had told her Jamie would be the youngest patient to start such treatment, she was confident it was in her best interests.
She said before her child changed schools in year 3 and acted as a girl, she told her, "Mummy, it is so hard trying to be a boy", and that she had to "go to school disguised as a boy".
The mother said the family had started treating Jamie as a female in 2008 after her non-identical twin brother accepted her condition and announced: "I have a sister."
The mother was concerned that without treatment, Jamie's voice would break and an Adam's apple and facial hair would grow.
"(If Jamie does not receive treatment) she will very shortly develop obvious male characteristics ... which will be permanent and will not be able to be reversed," the mother said.
"At the moment Jamie can live comfortably as a girl, is socially confident and suffers no teasing or social isolation."
A medical expert said when he first saw Jamie in February 2009, she "looked convincingly female in every way" except her genitalia.
The doctor said he was concerned about Jamie's rapid-onset puberty, which was equivalent to that of a 14-year-old, and that sex-change treatment should start immediately.
Another doctor said stage one treatment to stop male puberty was reversible.
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Small point.
Would Camo nail polish be ok?
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I remember the first time I saw painted toenails an a man ... male ... guy ... I don't know what it was:
We were moving a building for two "people." It was an old granary, and they were going to remodel it into an art studio. The boss had warned us all they were a little "light in the loafers," but none of us thought about it. However, when we got into town and their backyard they came out of the house. Everything was fine until the driver climbed out of the cab and walked back to the rest of us that were directing him. He "couldn't concentrate any more."
What he could see from the truck cab that none of the rest of us could see in the tall grass were the toenails on the bare feet. I climbed in the cab, and as I was getting settled to line up with the new foundations "pinky" came walking over, and all I could do was put my head down on the wheel. Finally the old owner of the company went over and explained to the customer that "for safety reasons" he needed to give us more space and they both needed to have on "sturdy footwear."
To this day every painted toenail, male of female, and every same sex couple holding hands or groping brings back that mind picture that will never go away. It has been thirty years, and to this day I look at that "studio" every time I drive past it (almost weekly) and remember that episode in my life.
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Reminds me of the flamer who ran the art museum at the University I attended. Lavender wallet. 'Nuf said?
I wouldn't have cared, except I worked at the museum for him part time, hanging displays, etc. We had great art in storage, some really exceptional pieces (Egyptian mummies, 17th century Japanese sword sets, Medieval triptych paintings, etc.). This museum director, though, told us that if it was from before Jackson Pollack, it wasn't really art. So it sat in the storage rooms, which were really nothing more than unpainted concrete crypts.
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Oh for the love of Pete. ::)
Teenage boy called out for wearing high heels to school
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The Daily Caller – Mon Apr 25, 12:39 pm ET
Students often face disciplinary action for being scantily clad in class.
But one male Bay Area student was sent to the principal’s office for showing up to Riverview High School in high heels, reports My Fox Tampa Bay.
“He likes the way they make him feel. They make him feel more confident, and he just likes to wear them,” said Hayley Stepp, who said she’s a friend of the unidentified male student. WTF?
A teacher notified the school principal and said that the boy’s high heels were distracting to the classroom. Principal Bob Heilmann reports there was name calling, so he instructed the young man to remove the shoes.
“As a principal of a high school, I have to take the paternal side as well, I have to make sure he’s going to be okay,” Heilmann told Fox, adding he was worried the student would be subjected to bullying. Ya think?
“Anytime anyone goes out from, quote, ‘the norm,’ or anytime anyone wants to make a statement, you have to be willing to take what comes with it.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailycaller/20110425/pl_dailycaller/teenageboycalledoutforwearinghighheelstoschool
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I have been known to wear women's panties on my head because "they make me feel pretty!".....
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My wife gets a bit perturbed though.....
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I have been known to wear women's panties on my head because "they make me feel pretty!".....
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My wife gets a bit perturbed though.....
TMI, Tim, TMI . . . .
hmmmm, TMI is TIM a little jumbled. Never noticed that before.
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Years back, the panties fit a bit tighter.....got to talk to the bride about that one!
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Years back, the panties fit a bit tighter.....got to talk to the bride about that one!
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I think you better convince her your head got smaller. She knows where you sleep! :P
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I think you better convince her your head got smaller. She knows where you sleep! :P
Sage advice!
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I have been known to wear women's panties on my head because "they make me feel pretty!".....
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My wife gets a bit perturbed though.....
Is that why you were banned from Wal-Mart? ;D ;D ;D
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Is that why you were banned from Wal-Mart? ;D ;D ;D
No, they handed me a roll of smiley stickers and a chair...
"Hi, Welcome to Walmart!"
"Now, get out go to Target!"...
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No, they handed me a roll of smiley stickers pasties and a chair...
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Lesson one in why so many boys raised by women grow up to be faggots, if not out right homosexuals.
Pretty much sums things up after reading through all the posts....