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Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: gunman42782 on April 25, 2011, 04:26:11 AM
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http://www.gunreports.com/news/news/Kahr-Arms-files-suit-against-Diamondback-Firearms_2898-1.html?typpf
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Let me get my head around this, a low dollar gun company that recommends firing 200 rounds before calling its guns safe for defense is suing someone for copying their crappy design? Maybe Diamondback can show them how to improve their produce!
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i was going to post this the other day then got tied up with something and forgot. This really shows, if true, that all the people who assume a gun company copied someone else merely because they look similar that the internals are really where the copying happens. Everyone talked about how DB copied Glock when they came out, you never heard Kahr mentioned. Just like all the people who think Ruger copied Kel-Tec yet nothing inside the two pistols is that similar.
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Let me get my head around this, a low dollar gun company that recommends firing 200 rounds before calling its guns safe for defense is suing someone for copying their crappy design? Maybe Diamondback can show them how to improve their produce!
If Kahr is what yo consider low dollar, then you make a lot more money than me. Kahr is extremely proud of their guns.
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i was going to post this the other day then got tied up with something and forgot. This really shows, if true, that all the people who assume a gun company copied someone else merely because they look similar that the internals are really where the copying happens. Everyone talked about how DB copied Glock when they came out, you never heard Kahr mentioned. Just like all the people who think Ruger copied Kel-Tec yet nothing inside the two pistols is that similar.
That was my assessment too. The DB looks ALOT like a Glock cut in half. Looks like market share protection to me, not patent protection. If found true DB will probably go under. If wrong Kahr could have possibly "shot themselves in the foot."
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That was my assessment too. The DB looks ALOT like a Glock cut in half. Looks like market share protection to me, not patent protection. If found true DB will probably go under. If wrong Kahr could have possibly "shot themselves in the foot."
Most auto pistol technology is so similar anyway. I mean they've been making them for around 130 years or so. I find it surprising that Kahr had so much new and unique technology to warrant that amount of patents to begin with. I hope they lose this one or smaller upstart companies will be afraid to try to bring new products to the market. I don't want to see someone come out with an exact copy of patented designs at half the price. Even though it seems like thats good for the consumer in the long run it really isn't. On the other hand if you can do something better and cheaper without flat out stealing proprietary technology then more power to you. I don't think anyone looks at a Diamond Back pistol and thinks Kahr though. I had a DB380 for a while and it was a very nice, well built pistol. I found the overall quality much higher than a Kel-Tec which is who the owners of DB used to work for. I ended up selling mine for a very nice profit when someone made me an offer. It really didn't do anything my LCP didn't do for much less money but I was impressed by it.
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Let me get my head around this, a low dollar gun company that recommends firing 200 rounds before calling its guns safe for defense is suing someone for copying their crappy design? Maybe Diamondback can show them how to improve their produce!
I agree with capbyrd, I don't consider any guns that retail from $450 to over $700 to be "low dollar". I do have to say, though, that the recommendation to put 200 rounds through a gun before relying on it for self defense is not unreasonable. I've done that with every semi-auto I carry. Revolvers are excepted 'cause I think a box of 50 proves their reliability.
The Kahrs I've personally examined have looked well made but don't IMO justify their cost.
Pecos
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The cost of Kahr guns may have to do with where they're made in Central MA. A very high standard of wage in the Northeast has an effect on everything. I agree, for a plastic 9mm auto-loader, their prices are ridiculous.
With the exception of revolvers, most every gun made by Kahr, S&W, SigSauer, Colt and more are overpriced IMO...all Northeast manufactured. Ruger is here too but most of their latest releases are coming out of Prescott.
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Was thinking this was a practical joke. Glock would have been the one that I figured would bring up a lawsuit?
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The cost of Kahr guns may have to do with where they're made in Central MA. A very high standard of wage in the Northeast has an effect on everything. I agree, for a plastic 9mm auto-loader, their prices are ridiculous.
With the exception of revolvers, most every gun made by Kahr, S&W, SigSauer, Colt and more are overpriced IMO...all Northeast manufactured. Ruger is here too but most of their latest releases are coming out of Prescott.
Timothy, Timothy, Timothy, let us not slam our brothers in the Northeast! We all know that the Northeast is the cradle on America! They deserve the high cost of living and the high wages after all they earned it unlike those of us who live in that other part of America west of New Jersey.
Pecos
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The timing of the suit seemed kind of odd, until you realize DB was getting ready to unveil a 9mm version of their 380 pistol. Maybe that's where the "copyright" infrigments occurred.
Bersa is getting ready to market a pistol that looks exactly like a Khar. Maybe this suit is also designed to slow that down too.
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Interesting info CJS3. It will be interesting to see the direction the lawsuit will take.