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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: Hazcat on April 29, 2011, 09:35:01 AM
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"Accidental Shooting" is now an Oxymoron
Press Release Source: Improved Guns, Inc. On Tuesday April 26, 2011, 7:50 am EDT
PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla., April 26, 2011 /PRNewswire/ -- Improved Guns, Inc., a not for profit company, is founded to promote the US Pat 7,036,258, which is aimed at eliminating accidental shooting. The passive device is a pin that must be broken before the gun can be shot. Any firearm can be adapted by drilling a small hole in which to insert the appropriate pin. These pins are made with incremental breaking thresholds having a range of 11.5-15.5 lbs. Improved Guns, Inc. can easily retrofit all guns at our cost, although donations are appreciated. Hopefully, new guns will soon include this device.
The inventor, Lanny Lee says, "The only thing that makes this invention seem like a safety is that curious little children can't shoot themselves or their buddies when they find the gun." Mr. Lee added, "What the world needs least is another gun lock; what it needs are safer guns, and this device has surpassed all expectations in field trials.
"Despite owners' demands, and overwhelming studies, Detroit refused to provide seat belts until the late 60's, except as an expensive option. This continued to 1978 when the government required them to be installed. One has only to look at the old 50s cars to see how the industry spent vast amounts on useless things like padded dashboards. Only liability suits changed their attitude. Gun makers' reception to this life saving device has ranged from contempt to cold indifference, while their attitude seems to convey they can stand in the rain and won't get wet.
"Manufacturers' specification sheets show trigger pressure is generally 4-5 lb. In contrast, A NYPD officer told me they raised their guns to 9 lb. trigger pull, and except for sniper rifles, military weapons are slightly over 12 lb. Buying a gun can be a life altering decision; that very gun might save your life, but then it might also end a loved one's life.
"There is a rapidly growing problem of accidental shootings due to the growing purchase of automatic firearms. New owners are unlikely to store their guns safely, leading to guns falling into the wrong hands. The passive pin device prevents accidental discharge; in a stressful situation, the inexperienced will discharge the gun out of control if the trigger has too light pressure."
Improved Guns' founder has handled and shot guns throughout his life. As a child, he witnessed an accidental shooting in his own home, the memory of which is what nightmares are made of. Carelessly passing a hunting gun between adults set the scene for the tragedy.
The Post Office cautions mailers not to send a complete gun; the barrel and slide must be removed! The USPO will accept frames only and mailed as parts only. See the website for complete details on shipping guns to be equipped with the device.
Contact:
Lanny R. Lee, President
Improved Guns, Inc.
772-807-4926
http://www.improvedguns.org/
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Now-Firearm-Tragedies-Arent-a-prnews-1109835283.html?x=0
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This is a complete BS 'marketing hype" thing.
Here is a quote from the company's actual site http://www.improvedguns.org/ ...
"Health officials believe that guns in the U.S. could become the leading cause of death attributed to injury . . . surpassing injuries due to motor vehicle crashes."
"believe" "could" ... Hyperbole much?
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Oh boy.
The pins look removable with a screwdriver, so that won't happen if you have one installed on a gun you have ready for defense (you wouldn't need one on a gun you don't have ready for SD) so, in effect, you have given all your "hot" guns a heavy DA/SA trigger pull.
Seems like it would work really well to ensure less accuracy on your first shot....after that, you are left with that dangerous lighter trigger pull that will have you shooting up the neighborhood. They need a companion product: A magazine spacer that allows only one round, to make certain you don't have a loaded, unprotected gun.
Of course, you can buy a few 1000 of the pins and be sure to break a few new ones during each your practice sessions to learn to control that first shot.
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OR there's a polite letter to them telling them to shove their pins up their Azzes.
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IMPROVED GUNS, INC.
We Make Good Guns Better
Allow me to correct that
RUINED GUNS, INC.
We Turn Good Guns Into Rocks
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And if you combine it with the "safety bullet" you will be doubly covered. ::)
http://www.safetybullet.com/ (http://www.safetybullet.com/)
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And if you combine it with the "safety bullet" you will be doubly covered. ::)
http://www.safetybullet.com/ (http://www.safetybullet.com/)
Rocks and Gravel - The anit's version of Belt and Suspenders preparedness >:(
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I wonder how Mr. Lee will deal with the ATF and the USPS when people take him at his word and start sending serialized frames through the mail.
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These two statements jump out at me.
Despite owners' demands, and overwhelming studies, Detroit refused to provide seat belts until the late 60's, except as an expensive option. This continued to 1978 when the government required them to be installed.
I don't think there wasn a great demand by owners.......else Detroit would have added them. I specifically remember going to buy a car with my dad and the dealer saying how few people wanted seatbelts.
Government mandate didn't make the LESS expensive. It just forced everybody to buy them.
Seat belts promote more aggressive driving and while they may save lives in particular accidents, they promote the possibility of more accidents.
There is a rapidly growing problem of accidental shootings due to the growing purchase of automatic firearms.
Wow a triple play.
Is there a growing problem of accidental shootings?
Is there a growing purchase of AUTOMATIC firearms?
Is there a cause and effect relationship?
And his source of this startling revelation?
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Seat belts promote more aggressive driving and while they may save lives in particular accidents, they promote the possibility of more accidents.
Seat belts allow control of the car in more aggressive driving, be it to avoid an accident or hitting a pedestrian or taking corners at a bit higher speed.
People will drive beyond their abilities to control their car the same as some folks will misuse firearms. Just because seat belted drivers are more capable of safely making more aggressive maneuvers doesn't mean they are more prone to accidents, just that they are safer in more situations than non-seat belt using drivers.
That is in addition to the crash survival benefits. Staying in your seat greatly improves your changes of survival in ANY accident. Any accident so severe it damages the car to an extent you cannot quickly undo your belt would have had you bouncing around the interior (or exterior, if you were unlucky) like a ping pong ball.
I remember when ABS breaks first came out and I had them on a new car I had just purchased. I was driving in the city in the rain and a car pulled out of a side street in front of me. As usual, I pumped the breaks but could feel the ABS system doing that faster and with more control than I could so I let them do the job and was impressed with how quickly and safely the car was bought to a stop. Bad moment was when I saw the bus behind me skidding a bit trying to avoid rear ending me.
The comment made when I related the story was. SEE!!...ABS breaks are bad because they allow you to stop quicker than those following you expect you to and quicker than they can stop so it will cause more rear end collisions. Any driver, given the choice, should pick being rear ended over front end collision. With proper head support, your chances of injury are much reduced.
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Leaving a loaded gun within reach of a child is dangerous, even with a trigger pull made heavier by this device. It is the same as saying that we should force all gun owners to take a course on selecting a good hiding place to put their gun so kids can't shoot people with their loaded SD gun.
Thanks for the cute idea Improved Guns, I am sticking with my combination safe with 1 billion possible combinations that locks itslef for 15 minutes if the wrong code is entered more than three times; I will take those odds rather than taking the chance that I won't be able to fire my gun if needed or that someone who shouldn't be handling my gun could fire it even with your pin in place. BTW, the only way to tell if each pin works perfectly is to fire the gun, if you install a defect you could find out the hard way that it wasn't strong enough to prevent a child from firing it or it is made a little too well and I can't fire it.