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Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: alfsauve on May 07, 2011, 11:41:51 AM
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Sadly I've sipped more of the original Kolaid this weekend.
Okay, so I'm actively searching all the on-line and real auction sites for S&W classic big bore revolvers. Placef some "signal" bids down to let sellers know their reserve was too high. And time runs out. Lost my membership in the S&W gun-a-month-club.
In the meantime, GSSF announces a series of matches at my local indoor range/club. Nothing fancy. One course of fire...just drop by between 10-2pm on the day of the match and shoot. Re-enter if want for a better score. Prizes and giveaways.....a free gun at the end of the summer. I'm good at these informal "pickup" style things. Can't pass this up.....BUT WAIT....all I have is a Glock 23 in .40SW.....got to have something better than that to be competitive. Maybe a G17....that's the ticket.
So sadly the April/May gun of the month is a G17. Traded in the XD40 which, since it seems nobody will ever score production as major caliber is not needed. Cost me $100 with trade. I did get the Gen 4. Bigger mag release which I can do with the side of my thumb without shifting grip. AND the mag release is reversible!! The stipling, finger groove, thumb rest are nice and the double recoil springs are suppose to be better. The trigger has some rough edges and I may apply a little emery cloth to it.
First 20 shots below. The first ten are spread out center and to the left. Then I got serious and the second 10 are top center. Only 7.5 yards so don't get excited. The white outline rear sight and front dot or nice as long as the light is behind you. Loose that rear lighting and they go black. I've already ordered fiber optic sights, holster and mag holders. It came with 3 mags and I've bought three more.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_udyXWMnOGhI/TcVwWLe9IzI/AAAAAAAAkP0/DRd0uK2dva0/s512/IMG_4954.JPG)
Okay, but now I've narrowed down my next S&W purchase. Gonna get a 625 in .45ACP and try my hand at action revolver shooting. I can't believe I'm moving that direction. Was the last thing I thought I'd be doing 6 months ago. Still though keeping my eye out for a 629 classic and a 625 classic in .45LC.
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You poor boy. ;D
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Nice!
I will be one of the SOs at the Glock the M our club in two weeks.
http://www.gssfonline.com/schedule_etc/images/Match_Maps/Tennessee-DTN-Map.jpg
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Sadly I've sipped more of the original Kolaid this weekend.
Okay, so I'm actively searching all the on-line and real auction sites for S&W classic big bore revolvers. Place some "signal" bids down to let sellers know there reserve is too high. And time runs out. Lost my membership in the S&W gun-a-month-club.
In the meantime, GSSF announces a series of matches at my local indoor range/club. Nothing fancy. One course of fire...just drop by between 10-2pm on the day of the match and shoot. Re-enter if want for a better score. Prizes and giveaways.....a free gun at the end of the summer. I'm good at these informal "pickup" style things. Can't pass this up.....BUT WAIT....all I have is a Glock 23 in .40SW.....got to have something better than that to be competitive. Maybe a G17....that's the ticket.
So sadly the April/May gun of the month is a G17. Traded in the XD40 which, since it seems nobody will ever score production as major caliber is not needed. Cost me $100 with trade. I did get the Gen 4. Bigger mag release which I can do with the side of my thumb without shifting grip. AND the mag release is reversible!! The stipling, finger groove, thumb rest are nice and the double recoil springs are suppose to be better. The trigger has some rough edges and I may apply a little emery cloth to it.
First 20 shots below. The first ten are spread out center and to the left. Then I got serious and the second 10 are top center. Only 7.5 yards so don't get excited. The white outline rear sight and front dot or nice as long as the light is behind you. Loose that rear lighting and they go black. I've already ordered fiber optic sights, holster and mag holders. It came with 3 mags and I've bought three more.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_udyXWMnOGhI/TcVwWLe9IzI/AAAAAAAAkP0/DRd0uK2dva0/s512/IMG_4954.JPG)
Okay, but now I've narrowed down my next S&W purchase. Gonna get a 625 in .45ACP and try my hand at action revolver shooting. I can't believe I'm moving that direction. Was the last thing I thought I'd be doing 6 months ago. Still though keeping my eye out for a 629 classic and a 625 classic in .45LC.
I believe, and this is just my opinion now, that by living so close to FQ, this post is prima facie evidence that FQ's whining and waffling are contagious.
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Nice shootin', Tex! If that funny red circle were a couple inches higher, I dare say you would have obliterated it!!!!! ;D
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GSSF is a great resource. We had a GSSF event here in California last month. I didn't enter, but I took my oldest Glock to have her looked at by the armorers. It's a 23 that I got in '91 and it's had a lot of rounds put through it. This was one of the Glocks that had the early 6-part replacement and has been great. I had a chipped extractor (that still worked) and VERY worn locking block. I was willing to pay to have the parts changed out, but they replaced them for free. They also gave the gun a thorough once-over, replaced the NY-1 spring that I hated, replaced the recoil assembly and cleaned it inside and out. Super friendly guys too. Glock, everyone should have at least one.
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Nice shootin', Tex! If that funny red circle were a couple inches higher, I dare say you would have obliterated it!!!!! ;D
7.5 yds isn't a great challenge, though I still manage to drop a few rounds. The trigger is a little rough, texture-wise on my finger, as well as the action is a little rough. I'll apply emery cloth to the external and I'll try for 1,000 cycles of the action, dry firing of course, this week and we'll see how it feels.
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RE: Fiber Optic sights and GSSF.
For those who have asked. Yes FO sights are allowable per rule 40.30
40.30 Allowable Modifications to “Stock”
[snip]
5. Post and notch sights (“patridge” sights)
excluding any sight requiring slide
modifications. Please note that fiber-optic
and “express” sights are approved.
(emphasis mine)
And again in what's not allowed, rule 40.40
40.40 Specific Illegal Modifications in the
“Stock” Divisions:
1. Any non-post and notch sight. This includes
“Ghost Ring” or laser, electronic and
optical sights. Please note that fiber-optic
and express sights are permitted.
[snip]
(emphasis mine)
Interesting in what's not allow:
4. Aftermarket barrels
I was thinking of getting Wolf barrel as a second barrel....a match barrel, but evidently not. Also rules out shooting 9mm in a G23 with a conversion barrel.
I guess, I'll just be getting a spare Glock barrel. I may get a wolf for practice and for IDPA/IPSC.
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Since alf and I have done the March-April S&W pinups, it's time for some of you other members to pony up, get a camera, and post this months "S&W Revolver of the Month". Only one pinup allowed. If someone beats you to it, you have to wait for next month.
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Nice Smiff and Vesson! ;)
Looking forward to some GSSF events this year. Hope my schedule will allow it?
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Since alf and I have done the March-April S&W pinups, it's time for some of you other members to pony up, get a camera, and post this months "S&W Revolver of the Month". Only one pinup allowed. If someone beats you to it, you have to wait for next month.
That's a great idea. Don't post it on this thread, though.
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Congratulations Alf! I used a Gen 4 17 last year for production and after working out the recoil spring issues it was great. If the GSSF will let you, a Wolff striker spring was all my trigger really needed. Cant wait to see pics of that 625....
Addict
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AND NOW GSSF IS RUINING MY POCKET BOOK and making Larry Potterfield rich. (Or why Sunday night when the wife pays the bills is not a good time to be order gun stuff.)
Thursday, knowing I was going to get G17, I ordered fiber optic sites from Larry.
Saturday, after trying all my holsters and mag pouches I ordered new holster and pouches just for the Glock.
Tonight, I ordered the Lone Wolf Armorer's tool specifically to change the front sight. (well of course that was under the $25 minimum order so I had to throw in some other parts. "HAD TO DEAR. I'm saving money on the minimum order fee.")
$50 here, $50 there....next thing you know I'm spending real money. Dang I better win something at this matches.
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You will find Glocks get extremely addictive. I started out like you with one, (a Glock 21). I now have a total of 6. They get shot more than any other make or model handgun I own. You almost get bored of their never ending reliability. A Glock in any flavor, and an AK-47 are the 2 guns I doubt can be beat for self defense. Bill T.
(http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz50/billt460/GlockPistols001.jpg)
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Don't forget a couple of 33 round mags to go with it. No 9 MM Glock is complete without one! Bill T.
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Okay, IDPA, USPSA and GSSF allow fiber optics, so I've put some HiViz sights on my Glock.
It all came today, the HiViz sights, the holster and mag pouches AND the Glock tool with the thin-walled 3/16 nut driver for removing the front sight. MidwayUSA's web sight has the wrong picture for the HiViz Glock sight. They show a dovetail sight, which is wrong. Glocks have a small bolt that screw into the front sight from inside the slide. Installation was a breeze.
Now for those who've not used FO sights. I offer this little picture lesson sights.
[Just an FYI: When there is very low light, neither regular painted sights nor FO are of much use. In those cases you must go with a glow in the dark sight such as Trijicon.]
Here's the original Glock white dot with with outline sight when light is from behind the shooter. Great sight picture.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_udyXWMnOGhI/Tcs7dZ2556I/AAAAAAAAkQ4/TyM_yMf12f4/s640/IMG_4955.JPG)
Now here's what happen when there's still light but it from the front and you're not lit from behind.
If the target is still light then the partridge sites are usable, but you loose the white.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_udyXWMnOGhI/Tcs7eEDuOfI/AAAAAAAAkRA/S7w8hj10gFE/s640/IMG_4959.JPG)
Now let's put on Fiber Optics.
Lit from behind (or all over).
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_udyXWMnOGhI/Tcs7fL2pWQI/AAAAAAAAkRI/FdeasSwBW9M/s640/IMG_4961.JPG)
Now with light only from the front. (Actually in this picture the light is all directed at the target from a source about 3 feet in front of the gun.) Not as good as when lit from above, but still very visible.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_udyXWMnOGhI/Tcs7f84hWkI/AAAAAAAAkRQ/R5oh1i1WkLc/s640/IMG_4963.JPG)
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Is their any advantage to fiber optics over Tritium Gas Night Sights, such as those by Trijicon or Meprolight? Bill T.
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I have a G23 with Trijicons. In full light they just become a white (cream actually) 3 dot and FO, in my opinion has the advantage. Their forte is in dim to very dim lighting.
For me, in action shooting, the FO is so easy to see, it feels like cheating. I know some matches have dim/dark stages, but that's mostly IDPA I think. I standardized on red front and green rear, cause red indicates the dangerous part (the muzzle). Maybe I'll get two mounts and do side by side pictures. FO vs Trijicon in rear, front, and dim lighting situations.
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Gaston is definitely doing things right. I messed up on my application to GSSF, and Donna in membership services, sent me an email. I called her and we spent an hour chatting about Glock, GSSF, and local ranges (it helps she lives and works in my county and we know all the same people). Point is though, they're marketing with the long term view. GSSF isn't a money maker, but it definitely is a great for public relations. (well it may be making a little money, but that is only after a number of years building it up.)
SO: I'm signed up for 2 years now. Will get my discount coupon in the mail. Roughly, depending on model and how much local retailer prices Glocks, my $70 membership will net me around $100 discount! Am I going for another Glock. Probably get a G34, because at some point, I'd hope to move out of the beginner class and into the competition with the big boys.
All ready for the "indoor league match" on Saturday. Will go put another 100 rounds down range today, then a bunch of dry fire tonight.
Alf (<-- who has grand allusions about is shooting ability and is always depressed to find he's a better shooter in his dreams than on the range.)
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Alf,
I wouldn't buy right away...you might win a new Glock at the matches this summer! Then, I'd be realllllllllll mad!
Richard
PS: Wish there was a GSSF match closer.
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Alf,
I wouldn't buy right away...you might win a new Glock at the matches this summer! Then, I'd be realllllllllll mad!
Richard
PS: Wish there was a GSSF match closer.
A Glock in the hand is worth two in the Match Prize Box.
Besides, if he wins one after buying one, he now has TWO more of them.
Billt has 6 Glocks....anyone with half that many (as Billt always seems to set the high water mark) can stand tall. I, proudly, have four!!.
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Had five at one point. Now I am downsizing to pay for training. Just sold my Glock 24 to help pay for the NRA Instructor Certification in Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun and Muzzleloader. Also, got my Range Safety Officer out of the way along with becoming a Archery Instructor through USA Archery. Was a long 8 days but I was able to get all these certifications. Now the two month wait for the NRA to send my credentials.
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UPDATE:
Took my co-worker, Matt shooting Friday. I only fired the G17, but Matt fired about 5 different guns of mine, from the G17 to the .44Spl and 1911. I had a blast seeing him have a blast.
SATURDAY: Shot the "indoor league" match. Really just one stage. Very plain. 5 par timed series of 15 seconds each. 10 shots and only 10 shots at a D1 tombstone at each of; 5, 7, 10, 15 and 25yds. Total of 50 rounds. Using the ranges automated lanes it meant you could shoot this little course in 5 minutes. I scored 471 out of 500, I consider that okay for an amateur. Don't know the whole match results. This little match will actually take place over 3 months with another stage in June and one in July. Drawing for a Glock after the last stage.
Had fun. Glock shooting is simpler and requires no equipment other than a glock, 5 mags and ammo. A lot of people were renting the range Glock.
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Sounds like a good time was had by all.