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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: Solus on May 20, 2011, 09:04:48 AM
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Found this story. Can only hope it will be changing the field of presidential candidates.
An American success story and tea-party favorite who could be Obama's "worst nightmare" tells WND he will make a "very important announcement" to the nation in less than 48 hours.
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=300741
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http://www.hermancain.com/
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I want a bumper sticker that says, "If I'm a racist, how come my candidate's darker than yours?" Is that wrong?
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I want a bumper sticker that says, "If I'm a racist, how come my candidate's darker than yours?" Is that wrong?
Naw......I kinda like that one. ;)
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I want a bumper sticker that says, "If I'm a racist, how come my candidate's darker than yours?" Is that wrong?
Sign me up for a dozen.... 8)
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"They are doubly scared that a real black man might run against Barack Obama," Cain added.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/153129-cain-establishment-afraid-of-obama-facing-a-real-black-man (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/153129-cain-establishment-afraid-of-obama-facing-a-real-black-man)
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I've been following his every word since way before he announced he woudl run... He's definitely got my vote! :) A man who speaks from his head, heart and MIND.......not a Teleprompter......!!!!!!!!
No more years....no more years....no more years.....get that ridiculously subsidized family out of Our White House. Nor more years....no more golf games...no more vacations....no more $400.00 pairs of sneakers...no more PERIOD!!!!
Cain slew Able......Hopefully~~~History is about to repeat itself. :)
Friends,
The past several months I have been able to meet with people across this country. One thing is clear: America craves for real solutions to the problems we face. That's why I'm running for President of the United States!
Sincerely,
Herman Cain
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I would absolutely love to see the Hermanator debate Odamna. That would be such a tremendous good time, watching that jug-eared loser get schooled by someone who has actually accomplished a few things in his life. Mr. Cain is looking better and better to me every day. His speech throwing his hat in the ring sounded awfully good. Unless he does something monumentally foolish, he could get both my vote and a campaign worker.
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I would absolutely love to see the Hermanator debate Odamna. That would be such a tremendous good time, watching that jug-eared loser get schooled by someone who has actually accomplished a few things in his life. Mr. Cain is looking better and better to me every day. His speech throwing his hat in the ring sounded awfully good. Unless he does something monumentally foolish, he could get both my vote and a campaign worker.
Bibi Netanyahu just did that, but the MSM kinda ignored it. Seeing it live on TV would be awesome! ;D
Cain is looking very good. Baring some deep dark secret/skeleton in the closet, he may be the right guy, someone to vote for instead of against.
Apropos of nothing other than I mentioned Bibi, my younger son is named in honor of Bibi's brother, Yonatan (Jonathan) Netanyahu, who led the Israeli Entebbe raid and was the Israeli's sole fatality in the otherwise successful raid.
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Watch for the MSM to put on the blitz to ridicule and slander Cain like they have done with several candidates who deliver a message that might resonate with a large number of independent voters.
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He will certainly get the Muslim vote.
After coming out strongly against Islam and appointing Muslims to his cabinet, Republican Presidential candidate Herman Cain reversed course completely.
One Out of Two Herman Cains Would Appoint Muslims to His Cabinet, Judgeships
Herman Cain wants to correct the record: He would consider a Muslim for his cabinet or as a federal judge if he’s elected president.
Cain’s clarification comes two months after he initially said he wouldn’t have any Muslim appointees, stoking controversy and criticism from a leading Muslim advocacy group.
“That statement is not what I said. It has been misconstrued,” Cain told Glenn Beck on his radio show Tuesday.
http://visiontoamerica.org/972/herman-cain-does-180-on-islam-would-appoint-muslims-to-cabinet/
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Watch for the MSM to put on the blitz to ridicule and slander Cain like they have done with several candidates who deliver a message that might resonate with a large number of independent voters.
He will certainly get the Muslim vote.
After coming out strongly against Islam and appointing Muslims to his cabinet, Republican Presidential candidate Herman Cain reversed course completely.
One Out of Two Herman Cains Would Appoint Muslims to His Cabinet, Judgeships
Herman Cain wants to correct the record: He would consider a Muslim for his cabinet or as a federal judge if he’s elected president.
Cain’s clarification comes two months after he initially said he wouldn’t have any Muslim appointees, stoking controversy and criticism from a leading Muslim advocacy group.
“That statement is not what I said. It has been misconstrued,” Cain told Glenn Beck on his radio show Tuesday.
http://visiontoamerica.org/972/herman-cain-does-180-on-islam-would-appoint-muslims-to-cabinet/
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Herman Cain refuses to appoint a Muslim in his administration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDXCwd65R5o
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Herman Cain refuses to appoint a Muslim in his administration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDXCwd65R5o
Then he is a jackass, but I think you are taking the man out of context. I think he would say the same to Evangelical Christians who would put their view of Biblical law above the Constitution. If you think he SHOULD exclude Muslims, or members of any other faith, you aren't reading the US Constitution which clealy prohibits a religious test for the holdng of any public office. As long as your ultimate loyalty is to the US Constitution neither I, nor the Founders, give a rat's ass what or who you pray to.
FQ13
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Then he is a jackass, but I think you are taking the man out of context. I think he would say the same to Evangelical Christians who would put their view of Biblical law above the Constitution. If you think he SHOULD exclude Muslims, or members of any other faith, you aren't reading the US Constitution which clealy prohibits a religious test for the holdng of any public office. As long as your ultimate loyalty is to the US Constitution neither I, nor the Founders, give a rat's ass what or who you pray to.
FQ13
First show me in the US Constitution were it says that the president can't exclude people for appointment for any reason he wants. Second, I disagree with:( neither I, nor the Founders, give a rat's ass what or who you pray to.
FQ13 ), and so do the founding fathers to wit: "I am a real Christian – that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus Christ."
--The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, p. 385. Benjamin Franklin
Signer of the Declaration of Independence and Unites States Constitution
"Here is my Creed. I believe in one God, the Creator of the Universe. That He governs it by His Providence. That He ought to be worshipped. James Madison
4th U.S. President
"Cursed be all that learning that is contrary to the cross of Christ."
--America's Providential History, p. 93. gner of the Declaration of Independence and Ratifier of the U.S. Constitution
"The gospel of Jesus Christ prescribes the wisest rules for just conduct in every situation of life. Happy they who are enabled to obey them in all situations!"
--The Autobiography of Benjamin Rush, pp. 165-166.
"Christianity is the only true and perfect religion, and that in proportion as mankind adopts its principles and obeys its precepts, they will be wise and happy."
--Essays, Literary, Moral, and Philosophical, published in 1798.
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First show me in the US Constitution were it says that the president can't exclude people for appointment for any reason he wants. Second, I disagree with:( neither I, nor the Founders, give a rat's ass what or who you pray to
As ye ask, so shall ye receive. Article VI, para 3, US Constitution:
"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."
Any questions?
FQ13
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FQ is wasting his breath here , Runstowin's previous posts have shown him to be the type of bigot who gives Christians a bad name, a "Witch burner" who thinks the first Amendment only applies to his type of Christianity.
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First show me in the US Constitution were it says that the president can't exclude people for appointment for any reason he wants. Second, I disagree with:( neither I, nor the Founders, give a rat's ass what or who you pray to.
FQ13 ), and so do the founding fathers to wit: "I am a real Christian – that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus Christ."
--The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, p. 385. Benjamin Franklin
Signer of the Declaration of Independence and Unites States Constitution
"Here is my Creed. I believe in one God, the Creator of the Universe. That He governs it by His Providence. That He ought to be worshipped. James Madison
4th U.S. President
"Cursed be all that learning that is contrary to the cross of Christ."
--America's Providential History, p. 93. gner of the Declaration of Independence and Ratifier of the U.S. Constitution
"The gospel of Jesus Christ prescribes the wisest rules for just conduct in every situation of life. Happy they who are enabled to obey them in all situations!"
--The Autobiography of Benjamin Rush, pp. 165-166.
"Christianity is the only true and perfect religion, and that in proportion as mankind adopts its principles and obeys its precepts, they will be wise and happy."
--Essays, Literary, Moral, and Philosophical, published in 1798.
Runstowin, are any of the folks you quote non-christian or are they all christians telling everyone they are the best?
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FQ is wasting his breath here , Runstowin's previous posts have shown him to be the type of bigot who gives Christians a bad name, a "Witch burner" who thinks the first Amendment only applies to his type of Christianity.
Shame on me for posting actual quotes from the founding fathers, if that makes me a bigot I am guilty in the first degree, and proud of it.
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Runstowin, are any of the folks you quote non-christian or are they all christians telling everyone they are the best?
I provided a few quotes from some founding fathers, I can't help it if they were Christians, Blame them not me, I'm just reporting what they said.
I sincerely apologize to anyone who is offended by me posting quotes from: Benjamin Franklin, James Madison, and Benjamin Rush.
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FQ is wasting his breath here , Runstowin's previous posts have shown him to be the type of bigot who gives Christians a bad name, a "Witch burner" who thinks the first Amendment only applies to his type of Christianity.
Tom, I appreciate your use of the ad hominem attack, when you can't refute the argument, attack the person.
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All of this has taken us far afield from the original question. Would Cain discriminate against Muslims and can he legally do so? I don't think his comments indicated an anti-muslim bias per se, just one against those who want Sharia'. The Constitution is clear in both Article VI and in the Establishment Clause of the 1A that religious discrimination won't fly. The words "Congress shall make NO law" and "NO religious test shall EVER be required" don't leave a lot of room for argument as to the Founder's intent. So are we at least agreed on that?
FQ13
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There are legal grounds to keep Muslims out of official positions, they could also be used against "Liberals" (socialists).
Basically, no Muslim or Liberal can take the Oath to uphold and defend the Constitution in good faith because their belief are counter to its intent and provisions.
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There are legal grounds to keep Muslims out of official positions, they could also be used against "Liberals" (socialists).
Basically, no Muslim or Liberal can take the Oath to uphold and defend the Constitution in good faith because their belief are counter to its intent and provisions.
Define liberal or socialist (neither category seeming to be Constitutionaly relevant). Where would you put TJ, William Jennings Bryan, TR, FDR, Abe Lincoln, or for that matter Ike, or Nixon on the scale?
FQ13 who would remind you that liberal and conservative are positional categories, empty of meaning. They measure distance, not content. Teddy Kennedy was liberal compared to McCain, and conservative compared to Nader. You'll have to define your terms better Tom. :)
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FDR was a f*cking communist, Jefferson was an ass who was forced to chuck all his high flown principals in the face of debt and Muslim fanaticism. Jefferson's cowardice on the slavery issue was the cause of the Civil War.
Ike and Nixon were good but WJ Bryan was an ass who happened to give one good, sounding, but poorly reasoned speech in his entire career. TR was America's first Socialist President, an advocate of big Gov meddling in things that were not the business of Govt. Lincoln was another W, only more so.
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Ok, I guess under a Tom Bogan admin we might need to do a bit of reshuffling of national monuments and currency and the like. Good to know that in advance, so there is no unseemly delay with either the demolition and construction crews, or the good folks at the mint. ;D
FQ13
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You'll never notice, the piles of dead college professors, politicians, political activists, union officials and media personalities will distract you.
It will keep you from noticing profiling by TSA for real security, the sealing of the borders, (Limited admission, any one that doesn't like it is free to go ) deportation of all illegal aliens, and elimination of 75% of all non-military Govt employees.
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You'll never notice, the piles of dead college professors, politicians, political activists, union officials and media personalities will distract you.
You do realize that not only I, but my colleagues whose politics I don't endorse, shoot back right? I may not have suceeded in converting many lefty's to libertarians, but I do have a good track record in taking lefty's to the range and convincing them that a Glock and a 12 gauge is a wise investment. Proceed at your own risk Senor Presidente , but inside of fifty yards, you may have issues. ;D
FQ13 who will be engaging from a much larger distance. ;)
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LMAO
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Can we make duels legal again?
If not, I'll hold your glasses for the bout.
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Can we make duels legal again?
If not, I'll hold your glasses for the bout.
'Minister of Duels' has a nice ring to it for a cabinet position. ;D
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You do realize that not only I, but my colleagues whose politics I don't endorse, shoot back right? I may not have suceeded in converting many lefty's to libertarians, but I do have a good track record in taking lefty's to the range and convincing them that a Glock and a 12 gauge is a wise investment. Proceed at your own risk Senor Presidente , but inside of fifty yards, you may have issues. ;D
FQ13 who will be engaging from a much larger distance. ;)
Not much use with rope around your wrists and neck.
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Not much use with rope around your wrists and neck.
Its quotes like that that motivate them to practice, hell Pincus doesn't have as much enthusiasm in his students. ;D.
FQ13
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All they have to do to avoid it is leave. Go somewhere that already has their preferred form of Govt and leave the rest of us alone .
Cuba has beautiful beaches and Fidel says the SCUBA diving is fantastic, for the skiers there's always N Korea.
Like I said before about the sealed borders, out bound will be completely free, it's just coming in that you need to follow the law.
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I've been getting these for a while, but now that he is officially running I'll start posting them here:
Dear skeptics and critics
By Herman Cain
May 30, 2011
Wow! I must be causing some people quite a concern as a candidate for the Republican nomination for president. The establishment skeptics are still stuck in the traditional campaign paradigm of immediate name ID, lots of money, and having held a worthy elective office before. The critics are pounding on what they perceive as my weaknesses. And the Democratic National Committee now has me on its radar and is sharpening its blades for a Cain attack.
No one is more emblematic of the Republican establishment than Karl Rove. He has an unmatched political record from his tenure with former president George W. Bush. I greatly respect and admire what he has accomplished in his career.
But I would suggest that he take a few minutes to review my record as a leader in business and as a problem-solver before he dismisses me as the radio talk show guy form Atlanta with not much to offer as a presidential candidate. Mr. Rove’s perspective also suggests that successful business skills are not applicable to changing the “Titanic” course our federal government is on.
People outside the political establishment are starting to recognize that those business skills are applicable. Maybe that’s why Cain is rising in the polls.
One of my favorite political commentators, Charles Krauthammer of Fox News, described my candidacy as entertainment. I enjoy his perspectives because he is usually very thoughtful and often correct in his analysis. Unfortunately, this time he got it wrong. Some people would describe being able to give an informative and inspiring speech as an asset, especially if one is running for president.
Or maybe Mr. Krauthammer was thinking of the announcement rally we held in Atlanta recently, which attracted over 15,000 enthusiastic supporters. Then again, maybe it’s because we do not have the funds or the fundraising network that the more well-known candidates have. And no, my campaign is not broke, as someone on Chris Wallace’s Fox News staff incorrectly concluded from a dormant PAC account.
My presidential campaign account is called Friends of Herman Cain, just in case Mr. Rove, Mr. Krauthammer and Mr. Wallace would like to make a contribution. I’m not mad! We just have temporary differences of opinions.
And to my critics who are scouting for more of my weaknesses to write about, I will give you three you have not discovered yet. I don’t know everything. I don’t pander to groups. And I am terrible at political correctness. Like any candidate, I will make some gaffes and stumble in some interviews with the press.
On the other hand, my strengths include identifying problems, properly framing problems, solving problems, surrounding myself with good and great people, and giving those overly inspiring speeches to engage the people in my common sense solutions process. Oh! I also like to smile, laugh and have fun with people. I think people can handle those qualities in a presidential candidate.
Lastly, I’m surprised that the DNC already has me on its political radar screen when not all of the potential candidates have yet to even formally declare their candidacy for the Republican nomination. Maybe the Democrats are taking my candidacy seriously, and if I win the nomination then they will not be laughing.
I realize that the road to the nomination and the White House is long and difficult. I know we will encounter many new challenges along the way, and that many people see my chances as against the odds.
When one considers that I am up against the skeptics, the critics, the establishment, the Democrats, the liberals, gotcha journalism, a liberal-leaning mainstream media, the challenges of raising campaign funds and a host of other candidates seeking the same objectives, my candidacy is against the odds.
But then, that’s been the story of my life and my career.
Maybe my middle name should have been David. He defeated a giant against the odds.
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Latest from Cain. Just love this quote....the link follows.
Fast-rising GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain, the former Godfather’s Pizza CEO emerging as a strong contender in the Iowa caucuses, blasted President Barack Obama’s leadership abilities in an exclusive Newsmax interview, saying Obama “could not run one Godfather’s pizza restaurant.”
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/herman-cain-obama-gop/2011/06/02/id/398657?s=al&promo_code=C60E-1
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And the lib-tards can't toss the race-card.............
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Saw Herman on O'Really last night. Not a very good outing. When pressed about how he would keep Iran from developing nuclear weapons he harped on an energy policy to make oil cheaper and deprive Iran of funding. Uh, Herman, it's a little late for that.
My enthusiasm is wavering.
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Saw Herman on O'Really last night. Not a very good outing. When pressed about how he would keep Iran from developing nuclear weapons he harped on an energy policy to make oil cheaper and deprive Iran of funding. Uh, Herman, it's a little late for that.
My enthusiasm is wavering.
On the other hand, what's your plan? Iran has, or will have nukes. Not a damn thing we can do about it now according to the Army. We can live with it. We just need to make it very clear that they ought to set the second bomb they detonate off in Tehran to save us the postage. Actually, scratch that, the Israeli's have probably already had that talk with them.
FQ13
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Saw Herman on O'Really last night. Not a very good outing. When pressed about how he would keep Iran from developing nuclear weapons he harped on an energy policy to make oil cheaper and deprive Iran of funding. Uh, Herman, it's a little late for that.
My enthusiasm is wavering.
Reading between the lines a bit, you might take it as they won't have the funding to replace the soon to be destroyed plants. I don't think I'd broadcast that I'd intend to covertly do what is necessary to take out the plants either.
What answer would have pleased you?
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He didn't do too well with Wolf Blitzer either, is he for or against gun rights ?
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What answer would have pleased you?
How about "I fully back Israel's right to self defense and would support any efforts they made to ensure the Iran does not develop nuclear weapons." Since they don't have the luxury of giving a damn about how the U.N. members perceive them, let them do the heavy lifting.