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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: Hazcat on May 26, 2011, 07:04:19 AM

Title: Obama: We're Working on Gun Control 'Under the Radar'
Post by: Hazcat on May 26, 2011, 07:04:19 AM
On March 30, the 30th anniversary of the assassination attempt on President Ronald Reagan, Jim Brady, who sustained a debilitating head wound in the attack, and his wife, Sarah, came to Capitol Hill to push for a ban on the controversial "large magazines." Brady, for whom the law requiring background checks on handgun purchasers is named, then met with White House press secretary Jay Carney. During the meeting, President Obama dropped in and, according to Sarah Brady, brought up the issue of gun control, "to fill us in that it was very much on his agenda," she said.

"I just want you to know that we are working on it," Brady recalled the president telling them. "We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar."

Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/guns/2011/05/25/obama-were-working-gun-control-under-radar#ixzz1NSWd89Z8
Title: Re: Obama: We're Working on Gun Control 'Under the Radar'
Post by: Solus on May 26, 2011, 08:24:18 AM
Haven't read the article, but Brady's statement indicates one of two things.

1.   Brady it willing to betray a confidence given by the POS to grab some headlines.

or

2.  The POS wanted this to "leak" out to reassure the Antis that he is really working hard for them "under the radar"

If 2 is correct, the question would be if the POS let Brady know he wanted it to be released or if the POS knew Brady had no loyalty and would blab it first chance she got.
Title: Re: Obama: We're Working on Gun Control 'Under the Radar'
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 26, 2011, 09:04:01 AM
"Just say NO ! "
Title: Re: Obama: We're Working on Gun Control 'Under the Radar'
Post by: jnevis on May 27, 2011, 10:57:41 AM
Haven't read the article, but Brady's statement indicates one of two things.

1.   Brady it willing to betray a confidence given by the POS to grab some headlines.

or

2.  The POS wanted this to "leak" out to reassure the Antis that he is really working hard for them "under the radar"

If 2 is correct, the question would be if the POS let Brady know he wanted it to be released or if the POS knew Brady had no loyalty and would blab it first chance she got.

3- all of  the above
Title: Re: Obama: We're Working on Gun Control 'Under the Radar'
Post by: fightingquaker13 on May 27, 2011, 11:13:24 AM
Jnevis has it pretty much right. BO is to gun control what Reagan was to abortion. Both are hostile, but neither one want to make it a huge issue, particularly where it will cost them votes. BO will do stuff under the radar, like tightening the sporting purposes test, and blaming US weapons for Mexican violence and the like, to keep the antis happy. He has not however, showed any willingnes to get into a pissing contest in the Congress over something like the AWB bill. What he said to Sarah was "We share your concern and we're working on it". That's pol speak for "Screw campaign promises, I'm not doing it. Vote for the other party if you don't like it". Brady understood that, and ratted him out to hopefully get him on the record. BO knew she would do just that and it probably helped restore the faith, and open the wallets, of the more gullible antis. Just another day in DC. ::)
FQ13
Title: Re: Obama: We're Working on Gun Control 'Under the Radar'
Post by: mortdooley on May 29, 2011, 09:15:14 AM
 Let this fool win re-election and he will be our worst nightmare because he is a true believer in total gun control. The time is not yet right for them to attack us because he has a mission to transform us into a liberals paradise and he can't do that unless he gets a second and final term.
Title: Re: Obama: We're Working on Gun Control 'Under the Radar'
Post by: tt11758 on May 29, 2011, 03:57:08 PM
Title: Re: Obama: We're Working on Gun Control 'Under the Radar'
Post by: r_w on June 21, 2011, 10:36:45 AM
What if they were referring to fast and furious?  ???
Title: Re: Obama: We're Working on Gun Control 'Under the Radar'
Post by: Solus on June 21, 2011, 10:40:39 AM
What if they were referring to fast and furious?  ???

As the evidence piles up, it seems that is more and more likely the motive.
Title: Re: Obama: We're Working on Gun Control 'Under the Radar'
Post by: jaybet on June 21, 2011, 11:03:11 AM
I believe they WERE talking about Fast and Furious. I think they are so smug and arrogant, believing themselves to be so much smarter than everyone else, that they would be able to be quiet on gun control while manufacturing this whole "crisis" in Mexico. They thought they would blow the whole thing open and force gun control through this entirely trumped up scenario they created. The idiots never realized that the Mexicans weren't going to help them a bit, and they didn't count on getting caught. They should all hang.
Title: Re: Obama: We're Working on Gun Control 'Under the Radar'
Post by: Solus on June 21, 2011, 03:05:59 PM
It has been said, but not verified by me, that the Mexican Government considers this a act of war. 

Can't say I blame them.    We would surely feel the same way if some foreign power was allowing hundreds or even thousands of weapons pass into the hand of our most violent criminals.  Some of the weapons are .50 Barrets.

Title: Re: Obama: We're Working on Gun Control 'Under the Radar'
Post by: Ichiban on June 21, 2011, 03:40:49 PM
They seem to be putting the Barrets to work.
http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-st-louis/confirmed-mexican-military-helicopter-was-shot-down-with-gunwalked-rifle (http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-st-louis/confirmed-mexican-military-helicopter-was-shot-down-with-gunwalked-rifle)
Title: Re: Obama: We're Working on Gun Control 'Under the Radar'
Post by: r_w on June 21, 2011, 03:47:45 PM
Act of war to their government.  Act of treason and terrorism to us. 

What is our extradition policy with Mexico?
Title: Re: Obama: We're Working on Gun Control 'Under the Radar'
Post by: MikeBjerum on June 21, 2011, 03:59:14 PM
I would love to stay serious, but I can't:

Maybe this will give them something to think about and expect if they keep flying over Texas towns  >:(
Title: Re: Obama: We're Working on Gun Control 'Under the Radar'
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 21, 2011, 06:41:01 PM
Act of war to their government.  Act of treason and terrorism to us. 

What is our extradition policy with Mexico?

No it isn't. It is a violation of federal law. It isn't treason, it isn't terrorism, it's simply illegal arms smuggling.
Course when Reagan did it to arm the Contra's it was the end of civilization, but that was differant, He wasn't a Dem.
Besides, it's for the children.
Title: Re: Obama: We're Working on Gun Control 'Under the Radar'
Post by: r_w on June 21, 2011, 07:00:22 PM
No it isn't. It is a violation of federal law. It isn't treason, it isn't terrorism, it's simply illegal arms smuggling.
Course when Reagan did it to arm the Contra's it was the end of civilization, but that was differant, He wasn't a Dem.
Besides, it's for the children.

Well, maybe not technically treason, but between the patriot act and the war on drugs I think we can come up with something.


Title: Re: Obama: We're Working on Gun Control 'Under the Radar'
Post by: Ulmus on June 21, 2011, 08:19:57 PM
As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter if this under-the-radar gun control was linked to F&F or not.

We should always expect some politician to attack our gun rights at any time.  We need to stay vigilant and be ready to act via calls, letters, e-mails, and forums posts in response.
Title: Re: Obama: We're Working on Gun Control 'Under the Radar'
Post by: twyacht on June 21, 2011, 08:40:03 PM
Don't forget the ATF "sporting" assessment of shotguns,.....Have you checked the price of a Saiga 12g lately? Uh,.....they are twice what they were last summer....

The old anti gun crew is STILL anti gun....that won't change.....Whatever they can chip away, nibble away,....make harder,,,,,hoe are those permits working out for lawful folks in D.C. or Chicago....

Heller means nothing to them...and they are not going to stop.

I say: ****'em.

"Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man gainst his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American.... [T]he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people."
(Tench Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.)

Title: Re: Obama: We're Working on Gun Control 'Under the Radar'
Post by: crusader rabbit on June 21, 2011, 09:37:55 PM
Jnevis has it pretty much right. BO is to gun control what Reagan was to abortion. Both are hostile, but neither one want to make it a huge issue, particularly where it will cost them votes. BO will do stuff under the radar, like tightening the sporting purposes test, and blaming US weapons for Mexican violence and the like, to keep the antis happy. He has not however, showed any willingnes to get into a pissing  contest in the Congress over something like the AWB bill. What he said to Sarah was "We share your concern and we're working on it". That's pol speak for "Screw campaign promises, I'm not doing it. Vote for the other party if you don't like it". Brady understood that, and ratted him out to hopefully get him on the record. BO knew she would do just that and it probably helped restore the faith, and open the wallets, of the more gullible antis. Just another day in DC. ::)
FQ13

Geewhizzz, ya moron...  Take your head outta your butthole and look at the real world untainted by your own personal bull$h!t...  Have ya not been payin' attention to the Operation Gunrunner stuff?   Do you not get out much?  Are you really such a douchebag that you can't see what this administration is trying to do?  Can you even sit up and speak?

I'm going to lay odds that the iguanas win the fight at your house.  Sheesh!!!
Title: Re: Obama: We're Working on Gun Control 'Under the Radar'
Post by: jstm on June 21, 2011, 10:52:10 PM
 Thank you   C R  + 10 .
Title: Re: Obama: We're Working on Gun Control 'Under the Radar'
Post by: Solus on June 22, 2011, 08:00:02 AM
Well, maybe not technically treason, but between the patriot act and the war on drugs I think we can come up with something.




We don't need an official Crime Label to hang from their necks under the noose.   :D :D