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Title: Don't dry fire the LCP?
Post by: clayflingythingy on March 15, 2008, 08:31:07 AM
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FYI. Follow the link to the sigforum. One poster is stating the LCP manual prohibits dry firing. Every Ruger gun I have ever owned the manual states you can dry fire all you want. Guess this is the result of cloning the P3 AT.
Title: Re: Don't dry fire the LCP?
Post by: Hazcat on March 15, 2008, 08:33:59 PM
I don't know, Clay.  Maybe it is the result of such a small and light gun.  You can only put so much stuff in it.
Title: Re: Don't dry fire the LCP?
Post by: clayflingythingy on March 15, 2008, 10:39:31 PM
Haz,

Every Ruger I own the manual states you can dry fire the gun.

My P32 manual forbids dry firing.

Since Ruger cloned the P3 AT it may be they were unable to tweak the gun to allow dry firing. With this, Ruger may have thrown away part of its "built like a tank" and "it's a Ruger" reputation.

That's not necessarily a bad thing but it will require adjustment on the part of the gun buying public. I can see guys who purchase an LCP dry firing the gun (even tho the manual apparently prohibits it) because they are used to doing it with other Rugers and they neglected to read the manual.
Title: Re: Don't dry fire the LCP?
Post by: TAB on March 15, 2008, 11:06:22 PM
it could also be a liabilty thing...if you notice as of late ruger has been putting lots of new warnings on thier guns as of late.
Title: Re: Don't dry fire the LCP?
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 16, 2008, 12:27:40 AM
it could also be a liabilty thing...if you notice as of late ruger has been putting lots of new warnings on thier guns as of late.

They only need one warning   ;D


 
CYA
Title: Re: Don't dry fire the LCP?
Post by: Hazcat on March 16, 2008, 06:33:28 AM
Haz,

Every Ruger I own the manual states you can dry fire the gun.

My P32 manual forbids dry firing.

Since Ruger cloned the P3 AT it may be they were unable to tweak the gun to allow dry firing. With this, Ruger may have thrown away part of its "built like a tank" and "it's a Ruger" reputation.

That's not necessarily a bad thing but it will require adjustment on the part of the gun buying public. I can see guys who purchase an LCP dry firing the gun (even tho the manual apparently prohibits it) because they are used to doing it with other Rugers and they neglected to read the manual.

Clay, I  just read the P3AT and P32 manuels online and did not see a "no dry fire" warning. Maybe the LCP is not as much of a clone as one might think.
Title: Re: Don't dry fire the LCP?
Post by: Teresa Heilevang on March 16, 2008, 09:44:27 AM
I don't dry fire too many guns anyway. Guess I'm from the old school.  I was taught not to dry fire , and if I do, it's only a couple times to check trigger pull.
I do have dummy shells in different calibers .. so that is nice. You can load those in and fire away at the lamps, tv, tables, pictures on the wall, husba...................(http://www.rightnation.us/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I mean..ahhh...
well, like I was saying........
You sure can have fun dry firing..
(http://www.rightnation.us/forums/style_emoticons/default/Whislin2.gif)
Title: Re: Don't dry fire the LCP?
Post by: Hazcat on March 16, 2008, 09:59:05 AM
I don't dry fire too many guns anyway. Guess I'm from the old school.  I was taught not to dry fire , and if I do, it's only a couple times to check trigger pull.
I do have dummy shells in different calibers .. so that is nice. You can load those in and fire away at the lamps, tv, tables, pictures on the wall, husba...................(http://www.rightnation.us/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I mean..ahhh...
well, like I was saying........
You sure can have fun dry firing..
(http://www.rightnation.us/forums/style_emoticons/default/Whislin2.gif)

I love ya baby (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/liebe/love-smiley-001.gif) but I'm not sure I could live with ya.  You see I have a tendency to ....ummmm... irritate people now and again (I know this is hard to believe(http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/fragend/confused-smiley-017.gif)) and you might just forget(http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/grinser/grinning-smiley-009.gif) to check the chamber on a dry fire practice.(http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/alles_moegliche/mixed-smiley-016.gif)
Title: Re: Don't dry fire the LCP?
Post by: Teresa Heilevang on March 16, 2008, 10:18:25 AM
I love ya baby (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/liebe/love-smiley-001.gif) but I'm not sure I could live with ya.  You see I have a tendency to ....ummmm... irritate people now and again (I know this is hard to believe(http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/fragend/confused-smiley-017.gif)) and you might just forget(http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/grinser/grinning-smiley-009.gif) to check the chamber on a dry fire practice.(http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/alles_moegliche/mixed-smiley-016.gif)


Nope.. I never fail to check chambers...

Soooooooo sweety pie ..(http://www.cascity.com/howard/animations/wink.gif)
Your best bet would be to "try NOT to irritate me".
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Title: Re: Don't dry fire the LCP?
Post by: Pathfinder on March 16, 2008, 11:17:23 AM
I love ya baby (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/liebe/love-smiley-001.gif) but I'm not sure I could live with ya.  You see I have a tendency to ....ummmm... irritate people now and again (I know this is hard to believe(http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/fragend/confused-smiley-017.gif)) and you might just forget(http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/grinser/grinning-smiley-009.gif) to check the chamber on a dry fire practice.(http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/alles_moegliche/mixed-smiley-016.gif)

The "living with you" part would not be the hard part, the "not dying" would the the hard part.

Like the falling out of the airplane isn't what kills you, it is the landing . . . . ;)
Title: Re: Don't dry fire the LCP?
Post by: DonWorsham on March 16, 2008, 01:15:44 PM
...I  just read the P3AT and P32 manuels online and did not see a "no dry fire" warning.

Hazcat put your reading glasses on and look again. It says no dry fire for P3AT. But really, I don't care. So you use snap caps, right? No big deal. I like my little P3AT.
Title: Re: Don't dry fire the LCP?
Post by: clayflingythingy on March 16, 2008, 06:07:29 PM
Clay, I  just read the P3AT and P32 manuels online and did not see a "no dry fire" warning. Maybe the LCP is not as much of a clone as one might think.

Haz,

My P32 is a first gen and on page 13 is where the "no dry firing" warning is located in the Assembly instructions. It is not high lighted in any way, just part of the text.

The only guns I use snap caps for are shotguns and 22 rimfires. And with a Ruger, if you read the manuals, even that is not necessary. The LCP is the first no dry fire Ruger of which I am aware.

Title: Re: Don't dry fire the LCP?
Post by: Hazcat on March 16, 2008, 08:25:00 PM
Hazcat put your reading glasses on and look again. It says no dry fire for P3AT. But really, I don't care. So you use snap caps, right? No big deal. I like my little P3AT.

Yep, page 13.   Guess I should have another drink, that'll help! (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/ernaehrung/food-smiley-019.gif) (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/ernaehrung/food-smiley-012.gif) (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/ernaehrung/food-smiley-005.gif)
Title: Re: Don't dry fire the LCP?
Post by: jaybet on March 17, 2008, 08:00:40 AM
Yep, page 13.   Guess I should have another drink, that'll help! (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/ernaehrung/food-smiley-019.gif) (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/ernaehrung/food-smiley-012.gif) (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/ernaehrung/food-smiley-005.gif)
It always helps unless the guns aren't locked up.
Title: Re: Don't dry fire the LCP?
Post by: gunman1911 on March 18, 2008, 11:45:38 AM
Call me old school but I was taught not to dry fire 22's as it is bad for the firing pin and the chamber and it causes penning.  Does any one dry fire thier .22?
Title: Re: Don't dry fire the LCP?
Post by: Hazcat on March 18, 2008, 11:53:04 AM
You can dry fire Rugers.  They even state it in their manuels.
Title: Re: Don't dry fire the LCP?
Post by: jaybet on March 18, 2008, 01:25:39 PM
Yup...you can even dry fire the SR9 if you have an empty magazine in.
Title: Re: Don't dry fire the LCP?
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 19, 2008, 01:34:28 AM
Call me old school but I was taught not to dry fire 22's as it is bad for the firing pin and the chamber and it causes penning.  Does any one dry fire thier .22?

Years ago I had a guy sell me a cheapo .22 semi auto for $10 because it would not chamber a round, I stoned off the metal of the breech face that had been peened into the chamber by the firing pin and later sold it for $50.
After that, No I don't dry fire any rim fire, Center fires are a different story  ;D
Title: Re: Don't dry fire the LCP?
Post by: HAWKFISH on March 19, 2008, 12:20:46 PM
Yeah I'm with tombogan03884 on dry-firing rimfires. Many gun makers now say not to. I mostly have Glocks though and you can dry-fire them forever and ever.. no problems.