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Title: Is it something in the water over there?
Post by: Ichiban on June 18, 2011, 05:19:28 PM
Jewish court sentences dog to death by stoning
A Jerusalem rabbinical court condemned to death by stoning a dog it suspects is the reincarnation of a secular lawyer who insulted the court's judges 20 years ago, Ynet website reported on Friday.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/8583317/Jewish-court-sentences-dog-to-death-by-stoning.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/8583317/Jewish-court-sentences-dog-to-death-by-stoning.html)
Title: Re: Is it something in the water over there?
Post by: fightingquaker13 on June 18, 2011, 05:31:10 PM
It's the Middle East. They are all crazy by definition, its a requirement to live there. Every damn one of them is a trouble maker. They have been since Moses, Jesus, and Mohamed. The world would be more peaceful without any of them. ;D
FQ13
Title: Re: Is it something in the water over there?
Post by: Solus on June 18, 2011, 05:41:02 PM
Maybe they just have an unusual sense of humor.

Like putting a dog before a firing squad because he is the reincarnation of Nixon.
Title: Re: Is it something in the water over there?
Post by: Big Frank on June 18, 2011, 06:53:35 PM
I didn't know Jews believed in reincarnation.
Title: Re: Is it something in the water over there?
Post by: Ichiban on June 18, 2011, 07:02:02 PM
I didn't know Jews believed in reincarnation.

From the article:
"Certain schools of thought within Judaism believe in the transmigration of souls, or reincarnation."

News to me, too.
Title: Re: Is it something in the water over there?
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 18, 2011, 07:17:15 PM
It's because Rabbi's are allowed to marry.
The court doesn't have child molesters or suicide bombers but they need something to keep them busy
Title: Re: Is it something in the water over there?
Post by: kmitch200 on June 19, 2011, 12:55:35 AM
Their preferred divine retribution was for the lawyer's spirit to move into the body of a dog, an animal considered impure by traditional Judaism.

Anyone who doesn't like dogs can KMA. 
How can you not like a huntin' dog? It just isn't right.
Title: Re: Is it something in the water over there?
Post by: fightingquaker13 on June 19, 2011, 01:11:36 AM
Their preferred divine retribution was for the lawyer's spirit to move into the body of a dog, an animal considered impure by traditional Judaism.

Anyone who doesn't like dogs can KMA. 
How can you not like a huntin' dog? It just isn't right.
Damn straight. Let me be clear here. If I were to be forced to stone to death either a good bird dog, a priest, an imam or a rabbi,  and I got to choose, the dog would be safe. ;D

FQ13 who does have some issues with people who get a pay check for being holier than thou.
Title: Re: Is it something in the water over there?
Post by: Pathfinder on June 19, 2011, 06:56:06 AM
Damn straight. Let me be clear here. If I were to be forced to stone to death either a good bird dog, a priest, an imam or a rabbi,  and I got to choose, the dog would be safe. ;D

FQ13 who does have some issues with people who get a pay check for being holier than thou.

Why? You used to get paid for exactly that, perfesser!

As for the "rabbinic court", that could be anything and anyone, probably on the far, far out fringe of the yammi-bobbers (ultra orthodox). I know of nothing in Torah that indicates a dog's lowly status - it is simply one of God's creations. As Jesus said, God cannot create something offensive and vile or impure. But then, if they believed in Jesus. . . .
Title: Re: Is it something in the water over there?
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 19, 2011, 07:12:53 AM
You had me more or less agreeing right up till "As Jesus said, God cannot create something offensive and vile or impure.".
That completely ignores the bit about pigs and creatures with cloven hooves being impure.
Title: Re: Is it something in the water over there?
Post by: fightingquaker13 on June 19, 2011, 07:24:30 AM
And to follow up on Tom's point Path, I've never been paid to "speak" for God or be holier than anybody. I just cash a check for knowing a bit about American politics and teaching kids civics classes. As far as the dog? If someone's view of their own purity with God requires them to take a life in a barbaric manner, they might want to take a step back and reconsider their theology. Honestly, I'll go half with Path here on sending these idiots a Gideon Bible as they clearly need one.
 Seriously, I'm not one to proselytize, particularly in the Abrahamic faiths, but killing a dog because its the reincarnation of someone you have an issue with? I will be first in line to ring the door bell and ask these idiots "Have you accepted Jesus as your personal lord and savior?" If only just for my own amusement value, but heck, maybe it would work. Granted, they might not take it well, but I could remind them that Israel is a wholly owned subsidiary of the US of A to the tune of $4 billion a year and as a taxpayer I have certain perks. Again, they might get pissy, but hey, I'm paying for the dog they're stoning and its about damn time they got reminded of that. It hasn't happened since Bush senior and James Baker.
Its not like I'm going to say "shine my shoes bitch", though I might think it out loud. Does that annoy the dog stoning wing of the draft dodging ultra orthodox?Because I really hope it does. ;D
FQ13
Title: Re: Is it something in the water over there?
Post by: Solus on June 19, 2011, 09:11:07 AM
Well, Ok...killing the dog is severe....but if BHO comes back as a dog in 20 years, I might kick it a few times.
Title: Re: Is it something in the water over there?
Post by: CJS3 on June 19, 2011, 09:26:37 AM
How did they figure out the dog had the dead lawyer's soul?  ??? Did it file a brief with the court? Did they match it's paw prints? Maybe it just had that shifty lawyer look. Or maybe ALL lawyers come back as dogs. That would explain the little yappy ones anyway.
Title: Re: Is it something in the water over there?
Post by: ratcatcher55 on June 19, 2011, 09:28:17 AM
A snake or a rat and I might have believed it. Dog? No way
Title: Re: Is it something in the water over there?
Post by: Pathfinder on June 19, 2011, 02:05:22 PM
You had me more or less agreeing right up till "As Jesus said, God cannot create something offensive and vile or impure.".
That completely ignores the bit about pigs and creatures with cloven hooves being impure.

Tom -

1 Timothy 4:4-5
For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5 for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer.

This is New Testament, so the orthodox Jews probably have never read 1 Timothy, let alone studied it. Therefore the Jews (and mooslims too) think that the pig is unclean, which is just fine - more bacony goodness for the rest of us!!!!  ;D

FQ -

You were a perfesser in a liberal arts college teaching PolySci. I am certain there was a huge element of "holier than thou" rampant in that classroom. Maybe not persistently, but it was there. We have seen it here, usually when presenting some faux libertarian nonsense.

BTTTAIP - I am sure we could probably dredge up something on these rabbinic wankers by which they would - according to their own interpretation of Torah - be eligible for stoning as well. I have found none, including among the ultra orthodox, who were without sin. That just ain't the human way.