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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: twyacht on June 26, 2011, 07:41:56 PM
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That's it... Where's Jesse Jackson, and his minion Al Sharpton with the condemnation...???????
Where's the MSM with the coverage.?????? If the role was reversed, it would be wall to wall coverage.....Even this outlet can't ack. that the VICTIM was white, and the BG's were Black.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/gang-charged-under-former-lynching-law-in-teens-beating-warning-graphic-images/
Gang Charged Under Former Lynching Law in Teen’s Beating (WARNING: Graphic Images)
* Posted on June 26, 2011 at 4:58pm by Madeleine Morgenstern Madeleine Morgenstern
Members of a gang have been charged with beating Carter Strange of Columbia, S.C. so severely he required facial reconstruction surgery. (Media credit: Daily Mail)
Columbia, S.C. (The Daily Mail) — Four members of a teenage gang have been charged under a state’s lynching law after allegedly beating an 18-year-old student so badly he required facial reconstruction surgery.
South Carolina prosecutors have charged the boys with second-degree assault and battery by mob, a crime which until last year was known as lynching.
The eight members of the gang, the youngest of whom is just 13, allegedly set upon Carter Strange in a parking lot as he jogged back to his home in Columbia.
They allegedly turned themselves in after surveillance footage of the gang roaming the streets in the area was released on local television.
The savage attack left Carter so badly injured his mother, Vicki, almost didn’t recognise him when she saw him lying on his hospital bed.
She said: ‘I literally bent over him; I recognised his hand and his hair, and I said “that’s my son”.’
He was left with a broken nose and a broken eye socket, and doctors had to operate to remove a blood clot.
Mrs Strange arrived in court on Friday with her husband, John, to watch as the eldest of the gang, 19-year-old Thyeem Henrey, was charged with second-degree assault and battery by mob, common law robbery, and criminal conspiracy.
A 14-year-old, 15-year-old, and 16-year-old appeared in juvenile court to be charged with strong arm robbery, second-degree assault and battery by a mob, and criminal conspiracy.
Click here to find out more!
A 13-year-old and three other 16-year-olds were charged with criminal conspiracy. They are all too young to be named.
The brutal beating happened last Sunday, when Carter, described as a ‘sweet and quiet’ boy, was jogging back home from a friend’s house.
Mrs Strange said she called him just after midnight, his curfew time.
She told Channel 10: ‘At 12:07 he wasn’t home, I called him and said “Carter where are you?”
‘He said “Momma, I’m almost home. I’ll be there in just a minute.” At 12:15 I called, but the phone was dead.’
The gang had allegedly been roaming around the area for most of the evening, and police said they had already tried – and failed – to rob four other people.
When they saw Carter, they allegedly ran towards him, savagely assaulted him and stole his cell phone.
Thyeem Henrey has been charged under South Carolina's former lynching law for the alleged attack on Carter Strange. (Media credit: Daily Mail)
Police Chief Randy Scott said: ‘This teenager was minding his own business, trying to make his curfew when he was brutally attacked and robbed.’
Henrey broke down in court as Carter’s parents vented their anger.
Mrs Strange said: ‘Since Carter didn’t fight against them eight Sunday, I’m going to fight for him now. I’m going to fight for him until my last breath.’
Her husband said: ‘I pray that you get your life right. Find God. If you pray for forgiveness, he will forgive you. I don’t have that in my heart right now. Maybe one day, but not today.’
Mrs Strange told Channel 10: ‘We got lucky he didn’t die. Next person won’t be lucky. If they did this now, what’s to stop them from doing it again?’
Henrey remains in custody. His bond was set at $750,000.
More at link....
That's enough....of the double standard...call a freakin spade a spade, when African Americans "lynch" a white boy....we all know what the media would report if it was reversed....
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I read one report that stated that 1 or more of the gang yelled "This is a black city" as they beat him.
Where's the hate crime charge? ? ? ? ? ? >:(
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Peorians living in fear
This eye-witness account is from Paul Wilkinson, president of the Altamont Park Neighborhood Association:
Tonight, around 11 p.m., a group of at least 60-70 African American youth marched down one of the side streets (W. Thrush) to the 4 lane main drag (Sheridan). They were yelling threats to white residents. Things such as we need to kill alll the white people around here. They were physically intimidating anyone calling for help from the police. They were surrounding cars. Cars on the main drag had to slam on their brakes to either avoid the youth blocking not only all four lanes, but a large section of the side street as well. fights were breaking out among them. They were rushing residents who looked out their doors, going on to porches, yelling threats to people calling the police for help.
Cars were doing U turns on the streets just to avoid the mob, mostly male. One youth stated his grandfather was white and several assaulted him on the spot. One police officer answered the call. The youth split into two large groups, one heading north, the other south. They were also yelling racial threats to the police officer but he was outnumbered. Another police car did not show up until after the youth finally dispersed and the patty wagon (van) also eventually showed up.
Residents are very shaken, both black and white alike. This is the fifth large mob action in about a month with smaller groups of 10-12 are out threatening children and adults a few evenings a week or later into the night. The times vary, even occuring during the day. In talking to the police officer, they are short staffed. Residents were advised to simply keep inside and to lock their doors. In other words buckle down, it’s not even safe to sit on your porch or go into your yards.
“The fifth large mob action in about a month.” Wow. This is really outrageous. Why is this neighborhood having to put up with this? “Residents were advised to simply keep inside and to lock their doors”? Seriously? That’s the best we can do for our fellow citizens’ safety?
This needs to be addressed, and quickly.
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Really sucks for that kid in South Carolina.
In Haz's article it mentioned 60-70 males. That is two thirty round mags. Just kidding. I would imagine most LEO's carry AR-15's? I do not understand why further action was not taken?
I would like to mention that I am not a racist, but have run into many younger black kids that absolutely hate white people. What the hell is stirring all this hatred? Who is teaching this to them? They did not experience what happened in the 50's, 60's and 70's. This racial crap should be ancient history. Just my two bits.
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Thats the thing. If this had happened in say 1963, I'd say that its reaping what you sow. I could have understood how blacks would have countered the Klan, sort of like Northern Ireland. Now, with a black President? WTF? Tell me how oppressed you are. The fact is though that the hardest thing to change is a trope. That is a narrative structure where all you need to do is fill in the blanks. We still haven't understood that the old narrative of racial violence in the South is white on black no longer applies. So when facts that don't fit the trope come up, they tend to be ignored. Those who argure against this are met with hosility, as changing the narrative makes folks uncomfortable. So silence prevails until the weight of facts overwhelms the old narrative. Its what happened to the old racist narrative. Its what happened to the anti-women's rights narrative, and its what is happening now to the PC "blacks can't be racists" narrative. The fact that these little thugs are charged under an anti-lynching statute is poetic justice, but listen to their lawyer rail against that and talk about Jim Crow in court. ::)
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Peorians living in fear
They were surrounding cars. Cars on the main drag had to slam on their brakes to either avoid the youth blocking not only all four lanes, but a large section of the side street as well.
Cars were doing U turns on the streets just to avoid the mob, mostly male.
What?? Nobody had 4 wheel drive?
That's why God invented auto-locking hubs. Push a button on the dash and PEDAL TO THE METAL. Those tib/fibs and femurs won't puncture 10 ply sidewalls. :-*
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Don't you even remember the things you read here ?
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=13808.0
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/beat-whitey-night-iowa-state-fair
"Beat Whitey Night" At Iowa State Fair
Cops probe whether attacks were racially motivated REALLY?
Iowa State Fair
AUGUST 24--Police are investigating whether a series of assaults at the Iowa State Fair were racially motivated since the attackers reportedly announced it was “Beat Whitey Night” during one attack.
According to a Des Moines Police Department report, a group of young black assailants pummeled a white fairgoer Friday night, an assault that cops believe may have racial overtones due to what was said by the attackers.
A report by Sgt. David Murillo noted that, “officers at the fairgrounds advise there was a group of 30-40 individuals roaming the fairgrounds openly calling it ‘Beat Whitey Night.’” The victim, 36-year-old Jammie Carroll, suffered “severe injuries to his eyes, cheekbones, and nose,” and was hospitalized at Mercy Medical Center with multiple facial contusions.
Cops are examining other reported incidents at the fairgrounds since groups of black juveniles appeared to be singling out white victims. During one of these confrontations Sunday evening, two police officers were injured trying to break up a brawl (which resulted in five arrests).
A second police report notes that the Sunday incident again involved “a large fight with black male and female juveniles assaulting white citizens."
Or this ?
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=13287.msg171738#msg171738
http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?v=XdZu6UIruz
Don't you remember after the election the so called "African Americans" talking about how they were going to be running things ?
Holder was right, when it comes to calling a spade a spade America is a nation of gutless sheep.
And yes, I am advocating shooting 20 or 30 of these shit bags to educate the rest.
Maybe the Serbs had the right idea, a little "ethnic cleansing might do wonders.
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Thats the thing. If this had happened in say 1963, I'd say that its reaping what you sow. I could have understood how blacks would have countered the Klan, sort of like Northern Ireland. Now, with a black President? WTF? Tell me how oppressed you are. The fact is though that the hardest thing to change is a trope. That is a narrative structure where all you need to do is fill in the blanks. We still haven't understood that the old narrative of racial violence in the South is white on black no longer applies. So when facts that don't fit the trope come up, they tend to be ignored. Those who argure against this are met with hosility, as changing the narrative makes folks uncomfortable. So silence prevails until the weight of facts overwhelms the old narrative. Its what happened to the old racist narrative. Its what happened to the anti-women's rights narrative, and its what is happening now to the PC "blacks can't be racists" narrative. The fact that these little thugs are charged under an anti-lynching statute is poetic justice, but listen to their lawyer rail against that and talk about Jim Crow in court. ::)
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That might be part of the problem. We saw how many blacks were expecting great changes in their lives, including free rent and gas, and that some even thought that a black being elected president indicated that blacks were now the majority in this country. (to me that was the most discouraging aspect of BHO's being elected, other than his political philosophy, indicating a truly racist view of things)
So what do you do when things haven't gotten better and "The Promised Land" seems farther away as things have gotten worse. Two choices...
One is to figure out that YOU have to do something to make things better for yourself and do it
Two is to get mad as hell, knowing that even with "all the cards in your hand" things are just as bad and getting worse and you ain't every gonna get it all for free.
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"For evil to triumph good men need do nothing." If our ancestors had to live under the restrictions we do today the West would have never been settled. A group of honest men defending their neighborhood from a mob should be a a reasonable response even to the point of deadly force.
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"This is a black city" ;D ;D ;D ;D
If it were they'd all have killed themselves. Lord of the flies.
Haven't been there in the two years I've lived in this state, but if I go I know to carry two extra magazines now. ;)
One shot one kill, that'd be 31 less flies.
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I've said this before, and I'll say it again. This is a direct result of what happens when we as a nation "progress" from being a country who was once tolerant of minorities, to a nation who has become so obsessed with them, that we made it a mission to put one into the White House. How should any of this nonsense be a surprise? Seriously.
And if we haven't learned a lesson by electing Hussein, they are already talking about putting Marco Rubio on the ticket not because of what a brilliant politician he is, but because..........drum roll please.....he is Hispanic!
Will we ever learn? You could take a picture of this, and place it in the dictionary under the word "insanity", and it would fit perfectly. For whatever reason, we have this attitude in this country that we can go with minorities, "Places no man has gone before!" I'm sorry, but this isn't the space program. As my mother said 40 years ago, and never got an answer. "Show me one single neighborhood, in one city, in one state, in any or all 50 states, where the whites moved out, and the blacks or hispanics moved in, and it got better." There isn't one, and they'll never be one.
We damn near bankrupted this country putting a black in the Presidency. We still may. What have we learned? How about nothing. The word insanity is often referred to as doing the same thing over and over, trying to get a different result. I agree with that definition. Why do we keep doing it with minorities? The result is as the first post in this thread shows. Now, go ahead and call me a "racist". It will have about the same effect on me as calling me an Italian. Both are true, and both mean about as much as far as how I think. Bill T.
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Philly is having the same crap going on. A mob broke a woman's leg (editor for the Onion no less) yesterday.
If it comes down to it I will 'brandish' and shoot.
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Doesn't this qualify as exactly the type of "Social upheaval " you've been buying guns and bug out stuff for ?
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Sad thing is, if you opened up on that mob? At least in Chicago where the the 2A is" racism", you'd be prosecuted and held up as a racist shooting innocent children. >:( Anyone wonder why this crap didn't happen a hundred years ago? TJ had it right. Criminals don't fear the courts or the police. The only way to deter crime is to make them fear their victims. Yet the po-po in Philly, Chicago and NYC can't seem to get that. Freaking sad, but utterly predictable, a police force that can't protect me, but will put me in prison if I protect myself. >:(
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Peorians living in fear
This eye-witness account is from Paul Wilkinson, president of the Altamont Park Neighborhood Association:
Tonight, around 11 p.m., a group of at least 60-70 African American youth marched down one of the side streets (W. Thrush) to the 4 lane main drag (Sheridan). They were yelling threats to white residents. Things such as we need to kill alll the white people around here. They were physically intimidating anyone calling for help from the police. They were surrounding cars. Cars on the main drag had to slam on their brakes to either avoid the youth blocking not only all four lanes, but a large section of the side street as well. fights were breaking out among them. They were rushing residents who looked out their doors, going on to porches, yelling threats to people calling the police for help.
Cars were doing U turns on the streets just to avoid the mob, mostly male. One youth stated his grandfather was white and several assaulted him on the spot. One police officer answered the call. The youth split into two large groups, one heading north, the other south. They were also yelling racial threats to the police officer but he was outnumbered. Another police car did not show up until after the youth finally dispersed and the patty wagon (van) also eventually showed up.
Residents are very shaken, both black and white alike. This is the fifth large mob action in about a month with smaller groups of 10-12 are out threatening children and adults a few evenings a week or later into the night. The times vary, even occuring during the day. In talking to the police officer, they are short staffed. Residents were advised to simply keep inside and to lock their doors. In other words buckle down, it’s not even safe to sit on your porch or go into your yards.
“The fifth large mob action in about a month.” Wow. This is really outrageous. Why is this neighborhood having to put up with this? “Residents were advised to simply keep inside and to lock their doors”? Seriously? That’s the best we can do for our fellow citizens’ safety?
This needs to be addressed, and quickly.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:lHzJ2PFQcMEJ:peoriachronicle.com/+http://peoriachronicle.com/&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com
Since this is a recurring situation, I would put a few snipers on rooftops.
Pick off a few of the little SOB's.
The reason "Vigilantism occurred in the West was because local law enforcement was unable, or unwilling to deal with a situation.
Same thing here.
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Welcome to the United Socialists States of America.
What are the police going to be told? "IT WA SUM CRACKA DUN SHOT DEM PO BOYZ! Den e jus dun walkd olf!".
Probably not going to lead da po po directly to your door........
OH, THATS why your extra careful to not leave finger prints on ANY of your casings or bullets...
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Have each shooter accompanied by a videographer, target BG's who are actually threatening, or assaulting , citizens.
Publish the video's and put the "system" on trial.
Look at the OJ trial, or the "Duke lacrosse team rape trial".
The media are a tool to be manipulated. Same with public opinion.
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Is the username "Paul Kersey" used on here yet?
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What's needed is a County Sheriff that has the cojones to deputize every armed and respectable citizen who is willing to help put a stop to the violence and give them instructions to protect their neighborhood.
Have a full time deputy(s) on call ready to respond to a mob in an area and let him the Deputy them to go home or face the consequences. Ten or fifteen armed citizens for back up will provide a sense of urgency to the request. The sound of a few 12 gauges chambering a round could act as the starting signal for the retreat.
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A Texas judge stated as Hurricane Rita approached land that any citizen in the state could defend not only his home but his entire neighborhood against looters with deadly force. There were no cases of looting after that statement. A nation wide re-stating of this understanding of SELF DEFENSE would change the attitudes of thugs everywhere.
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A Texas judge stated as Hurricane Rita approached land that any citizen in the state could defend not only his home but his entire neighborhood against looters with deadly force. There were no cases of looting after that statement. A nation wide re-stating of this understanding of SELF DEFENSE would change the attitudes of thugs everywhere.
That is shallow thinking that ignores the fact we have a Govt of the thugs , by the thugs and for the thugs.
Do I need to remind you of the tax cheat running the Treasury, or the Attorney Gen who refused to prosecute the Philly Black Panthers for voter intimidation because it would make" his people" look bad ?
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You are wrong, this is a local problem that needs to be taken care of locally. The thugs in D.C. are a whole separate problem.
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You are wrong, this is a local problem that needs to be taken care of locally. The thugs in D.C. are a whole separate problem.
Your assuming DC would be willing to give up ANY control over their flock! Nobody likes to micro-manage like a politician. Helps them keep their hands in your pockets! :(
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You are wrong, this is a local problem that needs to be taken care of locally. The thugs in D.C. are a whole separate problem.
Unfortunately you are the one who is wrong.
You see only one tree of the forest, this is one local symptom of a national problem.
Just in this thread we have covered the title incident in SC, the mob incident in Ill, the Black Panthers in Pa, and another mob incident in Ia. There have been many other cases of blacks targeting whites nationwide.
I was never a prejudiced person until I started paying attention to the news I was hearing. Here in NH, one of the 3 "whitest" states in the Union, more than half of all serious crimes are committed by blacks, and more than 2/3 of all major drug suspects are either black or hispanic. In a state that has an Ethnic population of 3% that makes one think the segregationists may have had a point.
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White supremacists guide to the united states. ;D
http://www.valpo.edu/geomet/geo/courses/geo200/usa_maps.html (http://www.valpo.edu/geomet/geo/courses/geo200/usa_maps.html)
While low on the black count, you've got no shortage of Frenchies up there Tom. :( :( :(
You know whats weird is that just in the last year I've seen a TON of Russians moving into the Myrtle Beach area... :-\ Their all nice, well behaved people. Pleasant to talk to (the ones that speak English!). But there sure seems to be a LOT moving in! :-\ :-\
I personally know 5 now by name (all in different circles). If you'd asked me two years ago how many Russians I knew I'd have asked you where the #$@ you thought you were!
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;D about half French Canadians here. Actually where I live now was considered French/Indian territory before before Wolfe drove them out of Canada. The Northern most English settlement was at Rumsford, (now Concord ).
BM, We even have Russians moving in to this area, it's a good thing though.
If you have to have foreigners coming in it's better to have the Russians. There have been news stories in the national media about how they hate the Dem party. They lived under communism, they know where the liberals are trying to go and they will not return to standing in line for toilet paper.
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I was never a prejudiced person until I started paying attention to the news I was hearing. Here in NH, one of the 3 "whitest" states in the Union, more than half of all serious crimes are committed by blacks, and more than 2/3 of all major drug suspects are either black or hispanic. In a state that has an Ethnic population of 3% that makes one think the segregationists may have had a point.
Tom, I think your type of thinking parallels many Americans, I among them. I personally believe Hussein has single handedly done more to damage race relations in this country than anyone since O.J. Simpson. Whites initially supported these people in droves, then when their true being surfaced, they realized they've been had. I think people, (whites), are finally coming around to the fact it isn't so bad to be critical of minorities. God knows they are deserving of the criticism.
Here in the Phoenix area it's become a total joke with the hispanics. If these people even think they have a voice they'll complain like there is no tomorrow. Their attitude is unbelievable. Some of it does make the national news, especially since S.B. 1070, along with Hussein's "suit" hit the news. The hispanics here are all over it like stink on $h!t. This will get bloody in time. I'm kind of surprised it hasn't already. Whites in this town are getting very pissed! Many are acting like a pressure cooker with the vent welded shut.
Melanie and I never leave the house without being armed. One day this whole damn city is going to blow. All it's going to take is the loss of their handouts. They'll think, and act, as if it's discriminatory, and not because of the fact the state is broke. They take everything that goes against their wants as racial. Just this past weekend we had a hispanic guy at work throw coffee on a white guy and punch him. He was finally fired after a history of this sort of thing. Now, his brother is crying foul. It won't be long before something happens with him. If either were white, they would have been gone long ago. Multiculturalism has never worked in any country it has ever been applied. I wish to hell they would stop trying to make it work here. It never has, and it never will. Again the definition of insanity keeps coming up. Bill T.
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Yeah...like the Polish uprisings in Chicago of years ago when Chicago had a population of Polish descent greater than Warsaw, Poland.
They spoke Polish, honored Polish customs, ate traditional Polish food, lived in Polish neighborhoods, even had streets with Polish names, and look where that led.
Not to riots like I suggested, but to a group of hard working Americans who made their way in their new country.
They worked hard because that was the only way to make it. No handouts from the government available. Any help came from local sources and was only accepted by those really in need. And they all learned to speak English too.
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My opinions here apply mostly to black/white relations, since the problem blacks are citizens where as the majority of problem hispanics are not and illegal immigration is a subject for another thread.
A couple thoughts that have occurred to me in recent years beyond the wildly disproportionate rate of crime among blacks locally.
1- The so called "racists" of the segregationist movement, that opposed the civil rights movement were primarily Southerners who lived in areas with fairly large black populations. They were familiar with blacks, they had daily contact with them, and awareness of how they conducted themselves in their own community. On the other hand, the pro civil rights whites were generally left leaning/socialist Northern college students who's only experience with blacks was watching "Amos and Andy" or "I Spy".
2- The opponents of Civil rights made certain predictions, such as Margret Sanger's ( founder of the eugenics program known as "Planned Parenthood" ) prediction that they would "out breed the more productive white race". many of these predictions have in fact been proven correct. As an example I will cite Whitey Bulger's home town of South Boston.
In 1971 Southie was all white and pretty much all Irish, the crime rate was so low people did not need to lock their doors, streets were safe, and homes and businesses were well maintained. In 1972 the Ma. legislature, dominated by outsiders who did not have to live there, mandated a busing program to "integrate" Boston's schools by busing black students into Southie. Opponents said that crime and violence would sky rocket to the levels of black neighborhoods like Roxbury, property values and "quality of life" would plummet, and Southie would lose it's distinct character as "a good place to live". The resistance was strongly supported by then Senate President Billy Bulger, and future Boston mayor Ray Flynn, both of whom were born , raised, and still lived in Southie. 40 years later, Southie is just as they predicted, a blighted, crime infested 3rd world sh!t hole.
In city after city across America opponents of Racial integration, accurately predicted "White flight, , decreasing property values and tax revenue, coupled with increased taxes ,crime, poverty, and demand for social services.
These are not opinions, these are documented historical trends that follow the scientific principle of repeated results of the same as actions.
It makes one stop and think that perhaps the principle of "separate but equal" had some merit.
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This is an issue that bothers me because I believe firmly in individualism and a meritocracy. Race, religion, sexual orientation and gender should be irrelevant. . However, as BillT and Tom point out, there is an issue here. When gays start moving into a neighborhood, you should buy property as it will be gentrified and property values will go up. On the other hand, when blacks start moving in, its time to sell as property values will go down and crime will go up, and that's just a fact. Its hard to argue with reality. :-\ :-X
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So if your neighbors are "Brucie and Tracy" your good, but if it's "Shaneequa and Hernando" buy a gun or sell. ;D
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So if your neighbors are "Brucie and Tracy" your good, but if it's "Shaneequa and Hernando" buy a gun or sell. ;D
Tell me I'n wrong. :-\
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Not this time. Makes you rethink your Grand Fathers Klan membership, doesn't it ?
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One day this whole damn city is going to blow. All it's going to take is the loss of their handouts. They'll think, and act, as if it's discriminatory, and not because of the fact the state is broke. They take everything that goes against their wants as racial.
OMG!!! SERIOUSLY I can't believe somebody else said this!!! Anytime we've sat down and got into conversations with people for years now, I end up here. My wife gets PI$$#D at me because NOBODY other than her and my daughter EVER agree!!! If I don't quickly drop and change the subject, things get heated BAD.
Don't even think it's just liberals that are BLIND to this. It's freakin EVERYBODY!!! >:( >:( >:(
Bill, if you were here I think I'd have to kiss you!
Everything thats been said here taken in mind... My thoughts on being a "racist" are simply this.
There are black people, and there are niggers. There are white people, and there's white trash.
BUT, the FACT is we've ALL become spoiled, self rightous, and think think we're owed something for nothing. Throw a poor little me, the press keeps telling everyone how I'm a mistreated "minority" :'( :'( :'( "Race card" on top that... And you get the "pressure cooker".
THANK YOU BILL! You have NOOOOOOO idea how good it is to see what you said.
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I've been saying it as well, about all the cities.
Stop the hand outs and they will burn.
Bill, if you were here I think I'd have to kiss you!
Property values just went up in BM's neighborhood ::) ;D.
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Great Tom, now I have to clean off my monitor
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Don't even think it's just liberals that are BLIND to this. It's freakin EVERYBODY!!! THANK YOU BILL! You have NOOOOOOO idea how good it is to see what you said.
It is starting to diminish among a lot of white people. Political correctness produces no reward. It just covers the reality of the stench with sweeter sounding bull$h!t. We've been pushing the blacks and hispanics in this country for decades. It's a lot like the "Peter Principal" in business. They have risen to the level of their own incompetence, much like the clown at work who gets over promoted because they don't know what else to do with him.
This is all set to crash and burn big time. Some places will be worse than others. Areas where blacks and hispanics have been given the longest free ride will see the most destruction. I can't think of a worse place than California. They have the most of them, and are in the greatest financial trouble because of it. The money is drying up. All of it. Everyone from Washington politicians who can't stop spending, to these minorities who biggest effort is cashing their entitlement checks, is going to get the spigot turned off on them. And the true beauty of it is no one will have to "vote" on it. This will all be self correcting, much like the housing market. The difference here is there will be a bigger mess to clean up. Bill T.
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See now this is where I get foggy on the whole thing (mostly because nobody's willing to even discuss it with any serious thought at all!). Most are willing to admit some form of collapse IS coming now... But, once it comes, anarchy hits, cities are burnt, gang bangers go wild with greed, the herd is thinned... Where does it stop? ??? DOES it stop?
You mention it will be "self correcting". Hmmmmmm. One has to wonder how, or by whom??? Martial law? CHINESE Martial Law?!? Hmm.
No worries, I'm not going gay anytime soon, but if I do I think KPR will be the one I go after. Have you seen that collection of FAL's he's building?!? ;D
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See now this is where I get foggy on the whole thing (mostly because nobody's willing to even discuss it with any serious thought at all!). Most are willing to admit some form of collapse IS coming now... But, once it comes, anarchy hits, cities are burnt, gang bangers go wild with greed, the herd is thinned... Where does it stop? ??? DOES it stop?
You mention it will be "self correcting". Hmmmmmm. One has to wonder how, or by whom???
States like California can no longer continue with deficit spending any more than a family can when they max out their credit cards. The housing market is a good example. You have incredible buys out there right now in the real estate market. You also have an enormous amount of people who need and want houses. The problem is they can't buy them because they don't have any money, or the ability to borrow any. So the housing market, in spite of good buys, is sitting flat with very little activity.
The government, be it state or federal is no different. Yes, they own the printing presses, but this debt is so enormous they couldn't possibly print their way out of it, and God only knows Hussein has tried. The spending will be forced to stop for the same reason the housing market is flat. No money and no more ability to borrow any. I think the best thing that could happen at this point is Moody's downgrade this nations credit rating. If that is what it takes for these idiots to stop spending, so be it. The states will not be able to look to the federal government because they are tapped out as well. We are all but a bankrupt nation that can no longer make ends meet, so we'll simply have to trim the fat and start doing without. It isn't going to matter what the politicians want to do. It will be dictated for them. This won't sit very well with minorities who don't want to hear the word NO. They'll do what they always do when things don't go their way. They'll get violent and break things. That's what idiots do. Bill T.
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To answer BM I will pick up where Bill left off. When the minorities start getting told no, they will go on a rampage, remember the LA riots when those cops were found not guilty ? Or the Liberty City riots in Miami ?
Only this time it will happen all over the country. (exactly how depends on the exact form the national melt down takes. The spread of racially motivated violence will mirror the spread of financial collapse. )
The nations nonproductive scum will band together with the intention of preying on the settled productive Citizens.
Just like with the original rise of civilization, or the aftermath of the fall of Rome, the productive elements will start off with farming, and other subsistence level industries in isolated enclaves working simply to survive. Some won't, they will be overwhelmed by the barbarians. Others will however, and when they have achieved a sufficient defense, they will begin producing a surplus of necessities that will allow them to reach for the next level of advancement and trade between enclaves, when this happens the days of the barbarians will be numbered.
They will always be dependent on society for the things they can not, or will not supply for themselves, but as society becomes stronger it will become more difficult for the scum to fill their needs by force until they are either forced to join the society or be destroyed.
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This is an example of what happens when the Entitled Ones get told no:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/06/28/greece.strike/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 (http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/06/28/greece.strike/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)
Coming soon to an urban neighborhood in the US near you . . . .
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I love that in the article about Greece, the press is begging international banks to bail out the Greek government just to stop the violence. That's just so amazingly dumb... "Lets throw good money after bad just so everyone gets along"... Ugh! ::) God help us!
I can see everything your saying Tom. And it's a scenario alright. Not a good one, but certainly a possible one!
Thinking out loud here, but.... Here in the US there's SOOOO much money at stake for the whole world market... We ARE the worlds consumers. Bama is really giving it his best shot. But I just can't see the world powers letting things here really collapse beyond where Greece is at right at this very moment. For their own sake they'll bail us out. As one book I know predicts ;), we would be under a single world government. Being the lazy sheep we've become, as quick as the riots start. And our government says "We're to broke to do anything about it." The UN, CHINA, or whoever, will move in and say. "It's all right. We'll take care of you." And we'll follow them like a lost puppy. I wonder how far along this path Greece is going to be allowed to go... I think it will be an excellent indicator of where "whoever" is going to allow us to collapse before stepping in and taking over.
I certainly may be wrong, but I'd say given a choice of starting over, fixing things, and taking care of ourselves the way we did when we founded this country. Or, welcoming in a new government of china (or UN) control, when they promise (as I'm sure they will). "We're going to make everything all better for you! Just sit back, relax, and let us drive the bus." We're going to make the wrong choice!
We've just been conditioned to be to lazy to choose the right thing. And if we somehow did. I think we'd be taken over by military force. Regardless, I foresee either Chinese or UN APC's patrolling our streets in the near future.
Certainly something to think about! OTHER THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS WELCOME!!!!
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For their own sake they'll bail us out. As one book I know predicts ;), we would be under a single world government. Being the lazy sheep we've become, as quick as the riots start. And our government says "We're to broke to do anything about it." The UN, CHINA, or whoever, will move in and say. "It's all right. We'll take care of you."
As quick as the riots start, the armed militia will cordon off their neighborhoods just like they did in L.A. Shop owners in L.A. dicouraged mobs with pistols!
If the govt says "we can't do anything about it", no worries - WE CAN! Start letting the lead fly and the mobs decide there are better places to be and do so in a big hurry. They are complete cowards.
Or, welcoming in a new government of china (or UN) control, when they promise (as I'm sure they will). "We're going to make everything all better for you! Just sit back, relax, and let us drive the bus." We're going to make the wrong choice!
I think we'd be taken over by military force. Regardless, I foresee either Chinese or UN APC's patrolling our streets in the near future.
That's invasion by anybodys standards and that is why there are armed Americans. Who gives a damn if our govt invited them? If they are that neutered, they won't have any say in the matter.
Remember the saying "A rifle behind every blade of grass?"
The govt can't even stop mexican cartels operating in our country. If they are over burdened by mass riots, they will have no control over 80 million gun owners either.
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Mitch, the whole point of the original posts was that it is already happening here and no one has balls enough to do squat.
BM is right, the sheeple will just haul down the Stars and Stripes and run up the UN flag when they are told to.
International intervention in failed debtor nations has been going on for over 100 years. It's exactly the way England took control of Egypt in the 1880's.
However in my opinion, I don't think any one will be in a position to bail us out, I think we will just drag most of the rest of the world down with us.
1929 was nothing compared to what is coming, and it will be soon.
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Mitch, the whole point of the original posts was that it is already happening here and no one has balls enough to do squat.
BM is right, the sheeple will just haul down the Stars and Stripes and run up the UN flag when they are told to.
International intervention in failed debtor nations has been going on for over 100 years. It's exactly the way England took control of Egypt in the 1880's.
However in my opinion, I don't think any one will be in a position to bail us out, I think we will just drag most of the rest of the world down with us.
1929 was nothing compared to what is coming, and it will be soon.
And back to the bancor.
With the economic collapse, the solution won't be to have China pay our bills for us. Theirs is a fiat and heavily manipulated currency, too much so for them to survive the meltdown. What will most likely happen is that the world's various currencies will be replaced by a single world currency - conveniently requiring a single, world gummint to control - and the sheeple will be convinced that this is the only solution to stabilize the world's economy.
No invasions required, no occupying forces necessary, all very neat and tidy. And voluntary too - unless you want to buy food.
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I seriously think the people most disillusioned in all this are the ones thinking "American patriots" will resist at all. The fact is america as a whole will do EXACTLY what Tom says. If it means dropping Old Glory and hoisting a UN / Fema (or ANY other) flag so that they can go to Sams Club and buy toilet paper by the pallet, have warm food in their belly's, and watch teenage vampires in love on their big screens... DONE!
F'd up, and disgusting, but you have to know its true.
Now one step further down the rabbit hole. You think when the new flag goes up their going to allow their citizens to be armed?!?! :o
Check Youtube for all the videos you want of how this will all play out. It'll be just like it was when Katrina hit. "NO citizen will be permitted to have a firearm.". PERIOD. They did door to door searches, it they even thought you had a gun you were arrested. And often well beaten. And this was OUR OWN MILITARY! Don't be a fool and think you'll be excepted for some stupid reason. I watched those searches (in video, not in person), they were pretty thorough! You'd better have a GOOOOD hidey hole! And your gun safe AIN'T IT! ::) Won't open it? They arrest you and blow it open later at their convenience.
I hope everyone on this forum reads this. And takes it seriously.
Don't kid yourself. It's a real possibility. :(
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I seriously think the people most disillusioned in all this are the ones thinking "American patriots" will resist at all. The fact is america as a whole will do EXACTLY what Tom says. If it means dropping Old Glory and hoisting a UN / Fema (or ANY other) flag so that they can go to Sams Club and buy toilet paper by the pallet, have warm food in their belly's, and watch teenage vampires in love on their big screens... DONE!
F'd up, and disgusting, but you have to know its true.
Now one step further down the rabbit hole. You think when the new flag goes up their going to allow their citizens to be armed?!?! :o
Check Youtube for all the videos you want of how this will all play out. It'll be just like it was when Katrina hit. "NO citizen will be permitted to have a firearm.". PERIOD. They did door to door searches, it they even thought you had a gun you were arrested. And often well beaten. And this was OUR OWN MILITARY! Don't be a fool and think you'll be excepted for some stupid reason. I watched those searches (in video, not in person), they were pretty thorough! You'd better have a GOOOOD hidey hole! And your gun safe AIN'T IT! ::) Won't open it? They arrest you and blow it open later at their convenience.
I hope everyone on this forum reads this. And takes it seriously.
Don't kid yourself. It's a real possibility. :(
BM,
If it does go that far, you might just as well pick up your best piece and start blasting when they ring the bell. You'll have little to lose because you will have already lost it. If you project Katrina on a nationwide scale, there will be blood by the tanker load. Who in their right mind would want to live in a society like that? Bill T.
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Mitch, the whole point of the original posts was that it is already happening here and no one has balls enough to do squat.
We're not seeing mass violent riots across the country. There are small pockets of gang thugs that run around beating and stealing because nobody is smacking them with a nightstick. (Thank you ACLU ::)) The people in and near those incidents are in mortal danger but the country as a whole goes on about it's business.
I don't think any one will be in a position to bail us out, I think we will just drag most of the rest of the world down with us.
I agree.
Who in their right mind would bail out 14 trillion+ in debt so the US can continue deficit spending, even if they could?
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I hope everyone on this forum reads this. And takes it seriously.
Don't kid yourself. It's a real possibility. :(
If you are correct then there is nothing possible we can do about it. If we take that as fact, then our options are to go out in a blaze of glory for a hopeless cause, or raise the new flag and survive.
I don't think that is what you are trying to tell us, but I could be wrong?
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Check Youtube for all the videos you want of how this will all play out. It'll be just like it was when Katrina hit. "NO citizen will be permitted to have a firearm.". PERIOD. They did door to door searches, it they even thought you had a gun you were arrested.
Pretty easy to do in a mostly evacuated ciity that just had a Cat 5 hurricane go through it.
Out of 80,000,000 gun owners - that they know of - ALL are total cowards that will roll over? Really?
Hell, the very gangbangers we are talking about shoot and kill the cops NOW.
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"No way it'll ever get this far." If somebody told you our country and the rest of the world would be in the state it is 5 years ago would you have believed a word of it? Reeaally?
Look where it's at right now.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/blog/prep_rally/post/NYC-football-star-killed-in-parking-lot-moments-?urn=highschool-wp3278 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/blog/prep_rally/post/NYC-football-star-killed-in-parking-lot-moments-?urn=highschool-wp3278)
Violence (your own reactions noted!) is becoming more and more acceptable as a reaction.
I don't WANT any of this to be our future. I just think it's a likely possibility. :(
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BM,
If it does go that far, you might just as well pick up your best piece and start blasting when they ring the bell. You'll have little to lose because you will have already lost it. If you project Katrina on a nationwide scale, there will be blood by the tanker load. Who in their right mind would want to live in a society like that? Bill T.
Much better option is to not be there when they show up.
then YOU can pick the time and place to "start blasting".
Trust me, you odds of survival will be higher. ;D
If you are correct then there is nothing possible we can do about it. If we take that as fact, then our options are to go out in a blaze of glory for a hopeless cause, or raise the new flag and survive.
I don't think that is what you are trying to tell us, but I could be wrong?
"I know not what course others may choose, but as for me, GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH."
"Live FREE or Die, there are fates worse than death.."
"It's better to die on ones feet than to live on ones knees"
"Better red than dead"
Pick one.
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"I know not what course others may choose, but as for me, GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH."
"Live FREE or Die, there are fates worse than death.."
"It's better to die on ones feet than to live on ones knees"
"Better red than dead"
Pick one.
Kill em all, let God sort em out.
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Much better option is to not be there when they show up.
then YOU can pick the time and place to "start blasting".
Trust me, you odds of survival will be higher. ;D
"I know not what course others may choose, but as for me, GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH."
"Live FREE or Die, there are fates worse than death.."
"It's better to die on ones feet than to live on ones knees"
"Better red than dead"
Pick one.
Yep...they seem to be go out in a blaze of glory or cave.
I guess we should include "He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day."
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"I know not what course others may choose, but as for me, GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH."
"Live FREE or Die, there are fates worse than death.."
"It's better to die on ones feet than to live on ones knees"
"Better red than dead"
Pick one.
Din't cha gots that 'un a leetle bakerds? ;)
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Next dem. campaign slogan?
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Din't cha gots that 'un a leetle bakerds? ;)
No Haz, there's 3 for us and one for the sheeple. ;D
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No Haz, there's 3 for us and one for the sheeple. ;D
I wunnerd if'n thatz wot ya wuz goin fer.
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And drifting back to the original topic... ;D
THAT is gonna leave a mark!
http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=14965429 (http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=14965429)
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From the same paper;
http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=14992280