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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: billt on July 04, 2011, 04:29:52 PM
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If you don't want to watch the whole thing, just watch from 3:00 on. Bill T.
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Is too late for this guy to get into the Republican primary? I'm sure we can find a U.S. birth certificate somewhere.
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Is too late for this guy to get into the Republican primary? I'm sure we can find a U.S. birth certificate somewhere.
Or at least a Certificate Of Live Birth. ;D
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Or at least a Certificate Of Live Birth. ;D
Maybe from Hawaii?
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Hell, we've given up on border control since Reagan signed off on amnesty in 1986. At this point, I'd rather have a good honest Brit than a Kenyan like BO, a Cuban like Rubio, or whatever Mexican the Dems put up in 2016. Screw it, I'll vote for him, he's already miles ahead of Romney in my book. ;)
FQ13
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Oh, this guy's my hero. You can go back and watch his various youtube vids and you pro'l'ly won't disagree with any of them. Strange for a Brit to get it so RIGHT!
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I find I have to agree with what I have heard the man say. He is Pat Condell and I've visited his website
http://www.patcondell.net/
and his YouTube page
http://www.youtube.com/patcondell
Some won't be interested in his views due to his religious orientation, but you can't fault his logic or the facts he presents.
I'd vote for him without reservation, and if we are to have a "One World Government", he's the guy I'd hope we get to run it.
Here is a YouTube of his that speaks about Islam. http://www.youtube.com/patcondell#p/a/u/2/377kKBi6anQ
He reminds me of Michael Caine the actor, which isn't mean to be a slur or compliment to either of them. I just happen to have enjoyed Caine is a couple of roles in which I've seen him.
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Actually, his honest atheism is a plus as far as I'm concerned. He hates religion because he assumes it equals a political and cultural agenda. It makes you toe a line. I sympathize. I was called months before I came to God and my biggest stumbling blocks were Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell. I thought being a Christian meant embracing political views I found (and still find) flat out wrong. Once he realizes that isn't so, he may or may not come around. I don't care either way, its his choice. I have never, and will never vote based on a candidate's personal piety. Its a stupid and irrelevant criterion.
What I DO care about is that he hits the nail on the head in regards to Islam. As a Christian, I can separate my faith from my politics. In Islam, that's not an option. There is no separation of mosque and state. They always insist that "tolerance" for Islam be enforced and that those who insult "the religion of peace" be punished. And that's the first demand. It goes downhlil from there.
FQ13 who likes this guy. I watched a few of his vids, but what's his name?
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FQ, his name is Pat Condell. See my post preceding yours, ;D
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FQ, his name is Pat Condell. See my post preceding yours, ;D
DOH! :-[
FQ13
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Did some follow up on Pat Condell. He professes to be a ''Liberal" but has come to hate the Liberal parties of Britain, and, it appears the US. He is also a very staunch supporter of the US Constitution.
Here is an excerpt from a transcript of one of his Videos Wake Up America. The video address the invasion of Europe by the Islam religion and culture.
The problem with the new touchy-feely American administration is not that it wants to be friendly and respectful to everyone; that’s very laudable.
It’s just that when you have a moral agenda like that it can be tempting to cut corners, especially when it comes to inconvenient things like constitutional amendments.
And if they’re doing this now outside the United States where they can get away with it, it’s only a matter of time before this is allowed to become international law, and then you know they’ll start trying to do it inside the United States as well, in the name of “community cohesion”.
Get used to that phrase, America. It’s coming your way. And this matters. It matters a lot, not only to Americans but to all of us who see the American Constitution as the anchor for western civilization – which is what it is.
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Actually, his honest atheism is a plus as far as I'm concerned. He hates religion because he assumes it equals a political and cultural agenda.
FQ, you make a common, but critical error. Atheists don't believe in God. Agnostics don't believe in organized religion. Atheism could, in fact, be considered a religion unto itself.
I can't believe that:
1) I missed that the first time I read this post.
2) Apparently nobody else caught it, either.
That being said, I can't comment on whether Mr. Condell is an atheist or an agnostic. Just wanted to draw the distinction between the two.
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FQ, you make a common, but critical error. Atheists don't believe in God. Agnostics don't believe in organized religion. Atheism could, in fact, be considered a religion unto itself.
I can't believe that:
1) I missed that the first time I read this post.
2) Apparently nobody else caught it, either.
That being said, I can't comment on whether Mr. Condell is an atheist or an agnostic. Just wanted to draw the distinction between the two.
that's a stretch. I doubt they will ever get tax exempt status or become Televangelists. Having no deity or theology or dogma to preach tends to eliminate the parameters used to define a religion.
Condell identifies himself as an atheist. One of his statements is that he does not believe in things without rational evidence of it's existence. He is also a very strong opponent to religion, stating that the Christian religion has gone so far astray of the teachings of Christ as to be it's biggest enemy.
He has a particular dislike of the Islamic religion, do to it's teachings about the fate of women, homosexuals and anyone who is not a believer in the Islamic faith.
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that's a stretch. I doubt they will ever get tax exempt status or become Televangelists. Having no deity or theology or dogma to preach tends to eliminate the parameters used to define a religion.
Condell identifies himself as an atheist. One of his statements is that he does not believe in things without rational evidence of it's existence. He is also a very strong opponent to religion, stating that the Christian religion has gone so far astray of the teachings of Christ as to be it's biggest enemy.
He has a particular dislike of the Islamic religion, do to it's teachings about the fate of women, homosexuals and anyone who is not a believer in the Islamic faith.
Worst of all, they have no holidays !
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FQ, you make a common, but critical error. Atheists don't believe in God. Agnostics don't believe in organized religion. Atheism could, in fact, be considered a religion unto itself.
I can't believe that:
1) I missed that the first time I read this post.
2) Apparently nobody else caught it, either.
That being said, I can't comment on whether Mr. Condell is an atheist or an agnostic. Just wanted to draw the distinction between the two.
except some of us.
I pointed out in my first post on this topic some of us might not be interested in his opinions because of his religious orientation.
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except some of us.
I pointed out in my first post on this topic some of us might not be interested in his opinions because of his religious orientation.
Which is stupid on their part,the guy's comments are well worth passing on. He shows a lot better sense than most voters.
Besides, even the enemy can give great information .
For example " never let a good crisis go to waste", or Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals".