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Title: Actual Negligent Discharge From A SERPA Holster (Graphic)
Post by: billt on July 04, 2011, 06:52:18 PM


Kimber 1911
Title: Re: Actual Negligent Discharge From A SERPA Holster (Graphic)
Post by: Ichiban on July 04, 2011, 07:21:09 PM
It's being covered elsewhere.
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=16808.0 (http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=16808.0)
Title: Re: Actual Negligent Discharge From A SERPA Holster (Graphic)
Post by: PegLeg45 on July 05, 2011, 02:47:11 PM
He appears to have been using two separate holsters: A 5.11 Thumb Drive and also a SERPA. Switching holsters would not have caused the discharge if he had been following proper technique with the trigger finger.
Title: Re: Actual Negligent Discharge From A SERPA Holster (Graphic)
Post by: bafsu92 on July 06, 2011, 11:11:43 AM
He appears to have been using two separate holsters: A 5.11 Thumb Drive and also a SERPA. Switching holsters would not have caused the discharge if he had been following proper technique with the trigger finger.

I totally agree however if you're going to use a mechanical retention holster I feel like you should choose one make/style and stick to it. Not even for preventing ND's but just for redundancy in training. You don't want to get into a stress situation and have to stop and think, is it my thumb or trigger finger that will get me in the fight. Pick on style and train with it. Using 2 different systems on the same day is just stupid, but not as stupid as shooting yourself in the leg.
Title: Re: Actual Negligent Discharge From A SERPA Holster (Graphic)
Post by: PegLeg45 on July 06, 2011, 04:53:36 PM
I totally agree however if you're going to use a mechanical retention holster I feel like you should choose one make/style and stick to it. Not even for preventing ND's but just for redundancy in training. You don't want to get into a stress situation and have to stop and think, is it my thumb or trigger finger that will get me in the fight. Pick on style and train with it. Using 2 different systems on the same day is just stupid, but not as stupid as shooting yourself in the leg.

Amen, brother, amen.
Title: Re: Actual Negligent Discharge From A SERPA Holster (Graphic)
Post by: robheath on July 06, 2011, 07:17:28 PM
It would be instinced to grip the gun harder to free it from the holster.  I think thats why he curled his trigger finger.  I've experienced something like this with a drill motor.  The drill bit gets hung up and instead of releasing the drill you tighten your grip to keep it from spinning the motor and twisting your wrist.  It only takes a time or to to remember to just let go.  But I agree i use the same type holster with all my guns.
Title: Re: Actual Negligent Discharge From A SERPA Holster (Graphic)
Post by: robheath on July 06, 2011, 07:18:29 PM
oops spelling ???
Title: Re: Actual Negligent Discharge From A SERPA Holster (Graphic)
Post by: tombogan03884 on July 06, 2011, 07:25:39 PM
oops spelling ???

Usually we just jump on the chronic word butchers like TAB and FQ who spell ( or not ) while drunk.  ;D
Some people drive well while drunk, those 2 probably can't do that either  ;D
Title: Re: Actual Negligent Discharge From A SERPA Holster (Graphic)
Post by: fightingquaker13 on July 06, 2011, 08:48:31 PM
Usually we just jump on the chronic word butchers like TAB and FQ who spell ( or not ) while drunk.  ;D
Some people drive well while drunk, those 2 probably can't do that either  ;D
Aye, boyo, I can "aim" a car with the best of them. Its spelling while sober where I have problems. Yet note the miracle of technology. My new 'puter has a built in spel lcheck. You'll have to make fun of content, not spelling, from here out. ;D
FQ13
Title: Re: Actual Negligent Discharge From A SERPA Holster (Graphic)
Post by: Big Frank on July 06, 2011, 09:12:34 PM
Aye, boyo, I can "aim" a car with the best of them. Its spelling while sober where I have problems. Yet note the miracle of technology. My new 'puter has a built in spel lcheck. You'll have to make fun of content, not spelling, from here out. ;D
FQ13

Now you have to learn to use the spell ckeck.  ;)
Title: Re: Actual Negligent Discharge From A SERPA Holster (Graphic)
Post by: fightingquaker13 on July 06, 2011, 09:16:48 PM
Now you have to learn to use the spell ckeck.  ;)
I was hoping someone would catch that. Hell, I have to entertain myself somehow. ;D
FQ13
Title: Re: Actual Negligent Discharge From A SERPA Holster (Graphic)
Post by: tombogan03884 on July 06, 2011, 10:12:56 PM
WARNING !
It does no good at all with properly spelled wrong wards.   ;D
Title: Re: Actual Negligent Discharge From A SERPA Holster (Graphic)
Post by: Rob10ring on July 06, 2011, 10:36:26 PM
I'm glad he had the video and the explanation of his mistake. I'm really glad he didn't get more severely injured! I'll bet he's glad he didn't hurt anyone else.
Title: Re: Actual Negligent Discharge From A SERPA Holster (Graphic)
Post by: sledgemeister on July 08, 2011, 07:36:15 AM
Dare one bring up this old email that does the rounds - Yes its for FQ's binifet


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Title: Re: Actual Negligent Discharge From A SERPA Holster (Graphic)
Post by: Sgt Z Squad on July 14, 2011, 08:02:24 AM
Another good reason to pick a system you can handle and stay with it. Switching around may have you doing bad things when you don't want to.
Title: Re: Actual Negligent Discharge From A SERPA Holster (Graphic)
Post by: tombogan03884 on July 14, 2011, 08:12:29 AM
Another good reason to pick a system you can handle and stay with it. Switching around may have you doing bad things when you don't want to.

It's something I've learned working in machining over the years, I go through set ups, or a machining process in a step by step fashion, always in the same order, if I do not remember checking something TWICE, I check it.
Every time I deviate from that method it bites me in the azz, I break a tool or make a bad first piece.
Once I'm running, I even put my tools in the same place, every time, If some one speaks to me while I'm working it doesn't mess me up because my hands know where they have to go for the next step, I'm not hunting around for tools or accidentally get caught in the machine.