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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: fightingquaker13 on July 06, 2011, 07:09:59 AM
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I am getting a bit more serious about airguns. First of all, I think they are just mechanically cool and well built machines. I also like the fact that they are quiet and capable of taking game while living in a legal grey zone. Plus, they are beyond cheap to shoot and that is an issue for me. I can shoot my RWS 34 all day for less than half of one box of ammo for my .270, and the weight and feel are pretty much identical (recoil and noise excepted).So, does anyone on this board (paging Alf or Badger) know of a good airgun board? I'd like to get some informed input on technical questions.
I'd also like to recommend taking airguns more seriously to other board members. Honestly, my .22 air rifle is indistinguishable from a firearm, it wears a quality scope, will drive tacks at 50 yards, and will kill small game. Yet it costs less than one penny to shoot. I think that those of us that like to punch paper might profit from buying a nice quiet .22 pellet rifle and doing it in the back yard, as it will save a hell of a lot of money in terms of keeping in practice. Plus, they are fun little small game guns. Just curious as to others opinions.
FQ13
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Some of the dealers have forums like:
Straight Shooter http://straightshooters.com/ (http://straightshooters.com/)
Probably the largest and they bill themselves as #1 is
The Yellow Forum http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/ (http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/)
My favorite "international" forum which covers airguns to elephant hunting (for serious hunting) is Accurate Reloading http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/6511043 (http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/6511043) You have to keep in mind that this forum is truly international and posts will reflect gear, laws and experience from all over the world.
Then there's
Airgun Advice http://airgunadvice.com/ (http://airgunadvice.com/)
Airgun Areana http://www.airgunarena.com/ (http://www.airgunarena.com/)
Crosman Forum (the green one) http://www.network54.com/Forum/275684/ (http://www.network54.com/Forum/275684/)
When you've read all those posts there are a few more out there, but that should keep you busy for awhile.
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Not familiar with boards on this topic, but check out this week's "Ted Nugent's Spirit Of The Wild" on Outdoor Channel. Uncle Ted's favorite gun this week is a kick-a$$ air-gun!!
YW, Marshal! ;D
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Most of the European forums I found are waaaayyy to hard core for my wallet. Some of those guys are toting around $5,000 full custom build stuff. And talk about ft. lbs of energy numbers that make a 30/30 blush. :o Computerized triggers, pellets the size of a loaded 9mm round. HARD CORE!
The "network54" forum alf mentions seemed to have a weird format to me, but has some very intelligent input on it.
Then theres the "GTA" forum. ::) On which I've attempted to poke the ribs of their "founder" for ripping people off with the BS triggers he sells. Long story, but the guy should be selling Shamwow's and juice machines on tv. The members of that forum will warn that either you go along with the smoke and mirrors, or he'll just boot you off. So LOTS of goofy claims and false information on there. The format looks pretty though! My advice would be to consider everything you read there as if it were coming from the mouth of a 3 year old. :-\
I'm with you on wanting more airgun info. though. 500 rounds of "premium" ammo for less than $10... Practice all day in your back yard without the neighbors even knowing (No range fee's!). And except for sound you can't tell the differance between shooting my pellet rifle and anything else. Weighing 7.4 lbs, I'd put it's recoil at about the same as a .223. And trigger quality is comparable to any centerfire. What more could you ask for when looking to hone your shooting skills and have a little fun?
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Well,.....
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OR
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Oh wait,....my bad,.....you said "air-gun".........
sorry,..... ;)
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EEEEK, Where's the eye bleach !
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When I was riding, I take my bike in for it's scheduled maintenance at 1000 miles. While I'm there, I'm waiting outside, having a smoke and talking to this dude with all kinds of ink, one of those Nazi brain bucket helmets, leather jacket, stickers all over his helmet, a real "hard rider" I think. Nice enough guy....
Some time goes by and the garage door opens and they wheel out this bright yellow scooter from the bay and this "hard core" biker hops on and rides off into the sunset....
Reminds me of "Airsoft" poster children.....
;D ;D
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Used to call guys like that concrete commandos...
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http://www.bigboreairguns.com/janpighunt.htm (http://www.bigboreairguns.com/janpighunt.htm)
http://www.bigboreairguns.com/ramhunt07.htm (http://www.bigboreairguns.com/ramhunt07.htm)
And. Oh yeah...
http://www.bigboreairguns.com/07bisonhunt.htm (http://www.bigboreairguns.com/07bisonhunt.htm)
;)
http://www.bigboreairguns.com/BBB58beast.htm (http://www.bigboreairguns.com/BBB58beast.htm)
700 ft. lbs. energy ain't doin to bad IMO.
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Allright wise guys, here's the challenge.We face off at twenty yards. You bring your AR/AK or whatever. I bring my RWS in .22. I get to shoot first, winner gets the loser's gun. Any takers? ;D
FQ13
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Allright wise guys, here's the challenge.We face off at twenty yards. You bring your AR/AK or whatever. I bring my RWS in .22. I get to shoot first, winner gets the loser's gun. Any takers? ;D
FQ13
I'll bring my BB gun....that's what we called them back in the day. I've masacreed hundreds of crows, bluejays and any number of bothersome flying shit bombers in my youth. All for the the low, low, low price of about 20 bucks. Grew out of them at 13 when I bought a 20 gauge from Monkey Wards...circa 1970.
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Allright wise guys, here's the challenge.We face off at twenty yards. You bring your AR/AK or whatever. I bring my RWS in .22. I get to shoot first, winner gets the loser's gun. Any takers? ;D
FQ13
Take it to 1000yds and who's in? ;D
You only need to watch the first 40 seconds and the last 30 seconds.
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Twyacht's girlfriend will take you on! You ain't got that kinda penetration at ANY range!
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I'll bring my BB gun....that's what we called them back in the day. I've masacreed hundreds of crows, bluejays and any number of bothersome flying shit bombers in my youth. All for the the low, low, low price of about 20 bucks. Grew out of them at 13 when I bought a 20 gauge from Monkey Wards...circa 1970.
Ditto, but you grow back into them when you live in county that prohibits firing a gun off an authorized range and the aforementioned range costs $15 an hour plus ammo. Plus, I ain't shooting your Red Ryder BB gun. The stuff I'm talking about will put 5 in a dime at thirty yards and, as Badger has attested kill a ##$ at 27 yards. ;D These are not airsoft toys. we are talking about serious pieces of hardware. I wouldn't storm a beach with one or choose it for SD, but for practice, plinking and small game I really don't see a down side.
FQ13
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Bleach, Badger, I need bleach....and gallons of it. :-X :-X :-X :-\ :'(
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Calling her his girlfriend is Twyachts punishment for posting the pic in the first place! ;D
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Ditto, but you grow back into them when you live in county that prohibits firing a gun off an authorized range and the aforementioned range costs $15 an hour plus ammo. Plus, I ain't shooting your Red Ryder BB gun. The stuff I'm talking about will put 5 in a dime at thirty yards and, as Badger has attested kill a ##$ at 27 yards. ;D These are not airsoft toys. we are talking about serious pieces of hardware. I wouldn't storm a beach with one or choose it for SD, but for practice, plinking and small game I really don't see a down side.
FQ13
It would suck if I live in a place such as you describe but alas, I live here in CT out in the boonies where I can go kill critters in my backyard with my neighbors permission....
My old Crossman packed a hell of a punch out to 75 feet. Knocked a squirrel right off of a branch in my back yard. Didn't kill the tree rat but I got his attention and he shut the f..k up!
I get to play with big boy toys here in the great north with all the "bad" gun laws. My advice is to get the hell out of West Palm Beach.
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You don't take dangerous game with an Airsoft. A Quackenbush .375 or .50 cal on the other hand.....
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You don't take dangerous game with an Airsoft. A Quackenbush .375 or .50 cal on the other hand.....
Ted Kennedy is already dead. There is no dangerous game left in New England. Targets of opportunity? Yes! Dangerous game? No!
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Tim, I'm talking AFRICAN dangerous game. Yes, with an air gun . google Quackenbushe's website, you will shit when you see some of the things they've bagged with an AIR RIFLE. There is a Chinese company making big bore air guns that are supposed to be just as good but less expensive. I don't remember the name though.
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Tim, I'm talking AFRICAN dangerous game. Yes, with an air gun . google Quackenbushe's website, you will shit when you see some of the things they've bagged with an AIR RIFLE. There is a Chinese company making big bore air guns that are supposed to be just as good but less expensive. I don't remember the name though.
I know Tom, I'm just having some fun old boy! Lewis and Clark carried an air rifle....they have their place just like a wrist rocket!
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Ted Kennedy is already dead. There is no dangerous game left in New England. Targets of opportunity? Yes! Dangerous game? No!
Really? Two words, Mitt Romney. There is a dangerous SOB if ever there was one. And, given his weak ass pro 2A claim that he hunted "small game and varmints" in 2008, I can think of no more poetic justice than somebody shooting him with a Quackenbush air rifle in whatever caliber.
FQ13 who will stop rolling on the floor laughing long enough to post this, but honestly, consider the headline "Romney shot with pellet rifle, dispute over hair gel to blame". Tell me you can keep a straight face. ;D
FQ13
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Bleach, Badger, I need bleach....and gallons of it. :-X :-X :-X :-\ :'(
Ask and you shall receive.....................................................
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If I were to buy an air gun I might be tempted to check out one of these..............
Benjamin Rogue .357 ePCP Air Rifle.
Does anyone have one?
Benjamin Rogue .357 ePCP Air Rifle
Imagine one rifle that you can program to shoot ammunition at a specific velocity and tailor the energy delivery you need to harvest any game from small varmints to wild hogs. It’s not a science-fiction weapon, it’s an air rifle that will change the way you think about air-gun hunting. The Rogue is an electronic pre-charged pneumatic (ePCP) .357-caliber air rifle that hits hard without the noise or recoil centerfire rifles produce. It sends 175-grain bullets downrange at more than 800 fps. Shoots four to 20 shots per fill, depending on the power setting. Up to six bullets are stored in a fast-cycling magazine. Compressed ePCP air power is recharged by using the High-Pressure Tank or High-Pressure Hand Pump (sold separately). A 3/8" dovetail-style rail accepts conventional optics mounts. There’s also an accessory rail under the forend. A programmable two-stage adjustable trigger delivers crisp match-grade trigger performance. The adjustable rear stock lets you customize the Rogue’s fit and length of pull.
Weight: 9.8 lbs.
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One of the most intriguing things to me is "the programmable trigger"! It has no mechanical connection to the action at all. Your pulling an electrical switch thats programmed to "feel" anyway you like. VERY cool!
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That's one of the sticking points to me. Why? WTF? WHY would I want a rifle that otherwise sounds like the perfect survival tool, but that won't work without batteries? What's so horrible about a mechanical trigger? You aren't at a ten meter Olympic trial here, you're shooting a freaking wild pig. 3-4 moa will do it.
The thing is no one knows much about this thing, even the folks at Crossman, other than that its going to be pricy by the time you throw in the pump and tank. Still, its a great concept. Six .357 rounds fired at lethal velocity with no powder, no reloading supplies no nada. All you need is a block of lead, a crucible, a bulet mold and extra O-rings and you are good to go indefinately, (and yes it will use regular .357 bullets though less effeciently than the ones Crossman is selling) . Whats not to love? Oh yeah, the trigger is needlesly complicated. ::) :-\
FQ13
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LOTS of choices out there without the wizbang trigger. Even offering more power, and in .50 cal.! ;D
http://airgunstyle.com/yang-bore-recluse-pellet-rifle-0357-p-18682.html (http://airgunstyle.com/yang-bore-recluse-pellet-rifle-0357-p-18682.html)
Check out their close up picture of the reciever! That etching almost makes up for not having the novelty of the electronic trigger. ;)
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That's one of the sticking points to me. Why? WTF? WHY would I want a rifle that otherwise sounds like the perfect survival tool, but that won't work without batteries? What's so horrible about a mechanical trigger? You aren't at a ten meter Olympic trial here, you're shooting a freaking wild pig. 3-4 moa will do it.
The thing is no one knows much about this thing, even the folks at Crossman, other than that its going to be pricy by the time you throw in the pump and tank. Still, its a great concept. Six .357 rounds fired at lethal velocity with no powder, no reloading supplies no nada. All you need is a block of lead, a crucible, a bulet mold and extra O-rings and you are good to go indefinately, (and yes it will use regular .357 bullets though less effeciently than the ones Crossman is selling) . Whats not to love? Oh yeah, the trigger is needlesly complicated. ::) :-\
FQ13
Regular Price: $1,299.99
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Benjamin-Rogue-357-ePCP-Air-Rifle/1233261.uts?WTz_l=EML%3Bcat109765980
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The "Recluse" is only $599.. And the scope rail being integrated into the receiver is a nice touch. Come on, Walmart bb guns are going for two bills these days! GET THE RECLUSE! Just be sure we get a good range report outta you! ;)