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Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: IvanXD_40 on March 17, 2008, 10:39:06 PM
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I will be taking my conceal course in two weeks. I have my eye on a TAURUS 24/7 Millenium Pro in 3.5" barrel chambered in .40cal. Has anyone shot this model or has anyone heard anything about how this gun shoots and how accurate it is at 7yds or less. Input is helpful.
Ivan XD40
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Everything shoots accurate at 7 yds. The only question becomes are you accurate with your weapons platform at 7 yds. Before you buy it either take it to the range or physically handle it and make sure it is the right pistol for your hand and how you shoot. Also, if you do get a pistol with a manual safety system, make sure that the safety is easy to take off (for your fingers). As for the Taurus, it's not a Glock ;D, but being compact, light weight and for around $350 not a bad deal!!
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I will be taking my conceal course in two weeks. I have my eye on a TAURUS 24/7 Millenium Pro in 3.5" barrel chambered in .40cal. Has anyone shot this model or has anyone heard anything about how this gun shoots and how accurate it is at 7yds or less. Input is helpful.
Ivan XD40
I was eyeing up the Milennium, either in 9mm or 45 and read as much as I could about them on forums. I ended up not getting it because there are very mixed reports. It seems that they keep improving, so newer ones are better than early models. I have read some folks think they are junk and others love them.
For $350 or less it's worth a try, if it feels good in your hand. You might also want to look at the Springfield XD w/ 3" barrel. It will cost more but it's a solid weapon.
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I own an XD40. I like it and I use it for home protection. I did hold in my hand the sub-compact pistol and what I did not like is that the top part of the gun is huge. I held the TAURUS 24/7 and a glock conceal model side by side. They were the same height and length. The glock was a bit thinner than the taurus and and about $150.00 cheaper. The TAURUS felt good in my hand, I also enjoy how my Springfield XD feels in my hand, and that is one thing I was picky on. I did not want to try to get used to too many guns in my hand. I wanted the feel and handle of my guns to be cosistent.
Thank you for your input guys.
IvanXD
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Make sure when you get it, to post a picture!!
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Umm, they seem to be good little guns. As the other posters said it is accurate at 7yds. I have shot one and compared it to my Glock 27 .40 caliber. The Glock was little more accurate and little bit thinner, but the Taurus is cheaper. And I have pierce mag extenders on my Glock 27 mags ..so it and the millennium pro are about the same size. Along time ago I was actually looking to get the taurus millennium.. until I shot a Glock.. and for me personally.. I just like the Glock trigger/feel better.. but both seem to be similar. A couple of my buddies have 24/7's and other taurus'es and they like theirs.
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I too took a CCW class using both my Taurus 24/7 and Millenium PT140 both in .40. However I found that I had a hard time keeping control of the Millenium and have since gone to the M&P compact in .40. Much more controlable, better sights, and not much more than the Taurus when you consider the free mags and money Smith & Wesson are giving back to you.
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I was eyeing up the Milennium, either in 9mm or 45 and read as much as I could about them on forums. I ended up not getting it because there are very mixed reports. It seems that they keep improving, so newer ones are better than early models. I have read some folks think they are junk and others love them.
For $350 or less it's worth a try, if it feels good in your hand. You might also want to look at the Springfield XD w/ 3" barrel. It will cost more but it's a solid weapon.
I have found my Taurus Pt111 9mm a very solid weapon. With over 1000 rounds thru mine, it's never misfired, jammed, or malfunctioned with any ammo at all. Everyone who shoots it likes it. It takes some time to make it accurate, mostly it's due to the small size and short sight radius. But at realistic defense distances it's very good. It also carries very well and has a good manual safety. I like it so much I'm thinking about it's bigger brother, the 24/7 longslide.
I"m to understand the Phillipine police just ordered 5000 units and are replacing their worn out Beretta 92's with them.
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if you think sight radius is important look at the F-F videos from D.R.Middlebrooks. The lack of trigger-control it the issue.
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I was eyeing up the Milennium, either in 9mm or 45 and read as much as I could about them on forums. I ended up not getting it because there are very mixed reports. It seems that they keep improving, so newer ones are better than early models. I have read some folks think they are junk and others love them.
For $350 or less it's worth a try, if it feels good in your hand. You might also want to look at the Springfield XD w/ 3" barrel. It will cost more but it's a solid weapon.
I couldn't agree more on the Springfield XD. I own an XD Subcompact in .40 and LOVE it. They are more money than the Taurus but when you figure that it is what is protecting your life it's worth the money. The XD Subcompact comes in 9MM or .40, is smaller that the Taurus 24/7 and is my favorite handgun I have owned. You can pick one up at www.budsgunshop.com under $500. Rent one at a range. I'm sure you'll love it. I've also found that most ranges that also sell guns will waive the rental fee if you buy the gun after you test it. It's a win/win situation. If you like the gun you get the rental free. If you don't like the gun it cost you only $25 to $30 to avoid making a $500 to $600 mistake buying it before trying it.
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I have a 24/7 in 9MM, and I am satisfied with the accuracy and the grip. To me, the way the grip feels in your hand affects how well the accuracy is going to be.
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I have a 24/7 in 9MM, and I am satisfied with the accuracy and the grip. To me, the way the grip feels in your hand affects how well the accuracy is going to be.
How is the trigger pull? I was looking at a Millenium? I was looking at one as a cheaper 9MM to play with but I was told the trigger pull is very long and pretty heavy trigger pull.
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Have a Taurus 24/7 4" 9mm, carries great, shoots great, accurate at varies yardage, using trigger control the pull isn't hard.
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How is the trigger pull? I was looking at a Millenium? I was looking at one as a cheaper 9MM to play with but I was told the trigger pull is very long and pretty heavy trigger pull.
Y'know...when I'm out at the range wondering why I can't take out Osama's right eye on my 8X11 printout target at 25 yds....trigger pull matters. But I always go back to a story my father told me. (No, he was NOT a great guy, but he did teach me a few things). He was once attacked by a giant person of a particular persuasion and he feared for his life. He rendered the perp helpless with his umbrella. ( I don't even own one). The lesson was that when there are five seconds for you to survive or go down, trigger pull doesn't mean shit. (Sorry Marshall'ette- it was the only word that fit.)
I live in a state where I can't carry, but if I did I would have something like what I keep at home....I like .45 and it doesn't much matter how you deliver it. If you have a Pez dispenser with a trigger that will launch a .45 ACP that's all you need. The perp will be 3-6 feet away(or less) and trigger pull is the LEAST of your worries. You'll let 6 rounds go in a hearbeat, and at that range it's all gross motor skills anyway.
Buy the little gun, take it to the range, stand 10 feet from the target and blast away...If you hit anything, it's a good carry piece.
There's nothing worse than trying to explain to the cops why you were firing at someone who was 20 yards away.
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Buy the little gun, take it to the range, stand 10 feet from the target and blast away...If you hit anything, it's a good carry piece.
There's nothing worse than trying to explain to the cops why you were firing at someone who was 20 yards away
I agree. I don't think I've even fired my Keltec beyond 15' and I never practice with what little sights there are. I also practice one handed.
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Y'know...when I'm out at the range wondering why I can't take out Osama's right eye on my 8X11 printout target at 25 yds....trigger pull matters. But I always go back to a story my father told me. (No, he was NOT a great guy, but he did teach me a few things). He was once attacked by a giant person of a particular persuasion and he feared for his life. He rendered the perp helpless with his umbrella. ( I don't even own one). The lesson was that when there are five seconds for you to survive or go down, trigger pull doesn't mean shit. (Sorry Marshall'ette- it was the only word that fit.)
I live in a state where I can't carry, but if I did I would have something like what I keep at home....I like .45 and it doesn't much matter how you deliver it. If you have a Pez dispenser with a trigger that will launch a .45 ACP that's all you need. The perp will be 3-6 feet away(or less) and trigger pull is the LEAST of your worries. You'll let 6 rounds go in a hearbeat, and at that range it's all gross motor skills anyway.
Buy the little gun, take it to the range, stand 10 feet from the target and blast away...If you hit anything, it's a good carry piece.
There's nothing worse than trying to explain to the cops why you were firing at someone who was 20 yards away.
Very good point. On a standard trip to the range I will fire one, if any, magazine at 25 yards to stroke my ego a bit then I pull the target in so it is 5 to 7 yards away and shoot till my hand can't take it anymore. It's funny how we don't practice what we preach, or in this case I should say preach what I practice until someone else points it out. Thanks!!!!!! Although it is fun to shoot those Osama targets. My range stopped carrying them because it isn't "politically correct". Was 09/11/2001 a politically correct day?
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Very good point. On a standard trip to the range I will fire one, if any, magazine at 25 yards to stroke my ego a bit then I pull the target in so it is 5 to 7 yards away and shoot till my hand can't take it anymore. It's funny how we don't practice what we preach, or in this case I should say preach what I practice until someone else points it out. Thanks!!!!!! Although it is fun to shoot those Osama targets. My range stopped carrying them because it isn't "politically correct". Was 09/11/2001 a politically correct day?
You can still download a nice free picture target of the jerk on the web...I think it's targetz.com or something like that. If you can't find it I can email you a pdf.
Hey there's an idea....maybe an area where we could all exchange the oddball targets (observing all copyright laws, of course).
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You can still download a nice free picture target of the jerk on the web...I think it's targetz.com or something like that. If you can't find it I can email you a pdf.
Hey there's an idea....maybe an area where we could all exchange the oddball targets (observing all copyright laws, of course).
Got it. THANKS!!!!!!!! I agree about a target swap forum. We have a lot of members here who probably have a lot of good targets.
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Got it. THANKS!!!!!!!! I agree about a target swap forum. We have a lot of members here who probably have a lot of good targets.
Because I'm cheap...I know where all the free target sites are. Enjoy.
http://www.protargets.com/targets/index2.htm (http://www.protargets.com/targets/index2.htm)
http://www.mytargets.com/ (http://www.mytargets.com/)
http://www.ray-vin.com/tech/targetlist.htm (http://www.ray-vin.com/tech/targetlist.htm)
http://www.reloadbench.com/pdf.html (http://www.reloadbench.com/pdf.html)
http://www.uspalma.com/Targets/targets.htm (http://www.uspalma.com/Targets/targets.htm)
http://glockfaq.com/targets.htm (http://glockfaq.com/targets.htm)
http://www.theshootingschool.org/targets.html (http://www.theshootingschool.org/targets.html)