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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: rojawe on July 12, 2011, 05:03:02 PM
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I hope that this will be the straw that breaks the camels back and the cry for his impeachment takes root and happens.
It’s coming.
Obama’s massive anti-gun payoff is in the works.
I’ve been telling you since he took office that Obama was going to launch a MAJOR ATTACK on your gun rights.
Recently, Obama even admitted he was going to do it “under the radar”…
Well, according to reports coming straight out of the White House, the President is getting ready to unveil some serious “reform” to gun laws.
With his reelection campaign in full swing, Obama is getting ready to pay the anti-gun piper, and he’ll use any means necessary.
Obama and his anti-gun allies have their sights set on:
BANNING the private sales of ALL firearms between American citizens;
Ban certain types of hunting and self-defense ammunition that meet arbitrary conditions;
BAN standard magazines that hold more than 10 rounds;
AND; they might even shoot for one of their biggest goals: to ban semi-automatic rifles and all handguns.
They’re just waiting for the next crisis -- the next school shooting or public attack -- to exploit, so they can use the blood of innocents to grease the wheels of their anti-gun, anti-freedom agenda.
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Until I see some type of proof, I'm calling BS on this. I'm sure they would like to do that, but I can't see it happening at this point in time.
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TAB,
I'm not calling BS, because I have seen too many things from too many sources in the last couple weeks. However, rojawe, do you have a source for your post?
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Count me with m58.
It will never get past the House, but if he uses executive orders, or Agencies "change their policies" the Republican House will never see it.
On the other hand, they need to enforce it and that may be a more difficult issue.
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I dont care what he does, just bring lots of those that will take mine.
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obama-executive-orders-impose-new-gun-rules/
Government Obama Executive Orders Impose New Gun Rules
* Posted on July 12, 2011 at 6:51am by Buck Sexton
A few days ago, the Blaze reported on the low-key plans of the Obama administration to increase the penalties for certain gun law violations, and add steps to the background checks for legal gun ownership.
Today the administration’s plans are beginning to come into effect. Through an Executive Order, the Obama administration is implementing new restrictions on the sale of certain weapons in border states, and increasing the penalties for violating certain firearms laws.
Fox News is reporting on the purpose of the gun control executive orders:
“In an effort to stem the illicit flow of weapons into Mexico, the Justice Department announced Monday that all gun shops in four Southwest border states will be required to alert the federal government to frequent buyers of high-powered rifles.
Under the new policy, federal firearms licensees in Texas, California, Arizona and New Mexico must report purchases of two or more of some types of rifles by the same person in a five-day span. The requirement applies to purchases of semi-automatic rifles that have detachable magazines and a caliber of greater than .22.
ATF estimates it will generate 18,000 reports a year. ATF will retain the information and if no investigative leads have been realized after two years, it will be purged.”
LIE(added by me)...
The Daily Beast seems to have the inside track on more Executive Orders, however, claiming recent conversations with administration officials. TDB says the upcoming Executive Orders will have more impact than what Fox outlines above, including:
“A national electronic system designed to make background checks for handgun buyers simpler and faster, leaving an electronic paper trail. [And] Tougher sentencing guidelines for straw buyers that Holder’s department pushed through procedural hoops at the U.S. Sentencing Commission earlier this year.”
The Executive Orders come in the middle of the “Fast and Furious” scandal currently plaguing the administration. Already, there is talk on Capitol Hill of a cover-up at the highest levels of government, and it appears to some that the administration was feeding the lethal problem of firearms trafficking it ostensibly intended to address with “Fast and Furious.”
The question remains- if these Executive Orders are ‘common sense’ measures as the administration claims, why not let Congress enact them as laws? And if they are minor tweaks to existing law as others claim, are they necessary at all?
As background, here is a short clip of then-candidate Obama in 2008 on gun control. He agrees that the second amendment means…something, but beyond that, the details get hazy.
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Private sales, etc,...."the gun show loophole",....sponsored with MAIG, and Bloomberg,....etc,...et al,.....
Regardless,....it has been part of the Anointed One's agenda since before he was even a Senator.
It's comin' but enforcement will be tough,....unless...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_%281946%29
The Battle of Athens (sometimes called the McMinn County War) was a rebellion led by citizens in Athens and Etowah, Tennessee, United States, against the local government in August 1946. The citizens, including some World War II veterans, accused the local officials of political corruption and voter intimidation. The event is sometimes cited by firearms ownership advocates as an example of the value of the Second Amendment in combating tyranny.
;)
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Excellent link TW.
Needs to happen on the national level.
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We're to lazy and domesticated. americans have become like dogs that've had their nutz cut off.
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We're to lazy and domesticated. americans have become like dogs that've had their nutz cut off.
I know, that's usually my line, but maybe we can schedule it so it doesn't cut into "Dancing with the Stars".
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I saw Congressman Issa on Fox today. He said that the 2nd was under clear threat. I get the feeling that he would cut all funding to the ATF and just needs a push.
From the article/video:
“We have no expectation that this White House will be respectful of the Second Amendment,” he said, adding, “We have deep concerns that, in fact, they’re going to push it and dare Congress and the Supreme Court to stop them
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/12/justice-departments-new-rule-on-border-gun-sales-gets-mixed-reviews/#ixzz1RxZ3hlMp
These are the changes I expect: funding tie-ins for the states on NICS reporting, the ATF will act with even less reason, I agree with Michael that the Saiga is a target. I think that the Army will required to publish any failed drug tests to the NICS system
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Buy private sale, stash ammo, and clean out your local Army reserve and National Guard armories.
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Until I see some type of proof, I'm calling BS on this. I'm sure they would like to do that, but I can't see it happening at this point in time.
I'm calling BS on TAB. I've never seen any proof that he exists other than a series of babes in attenuated dress showing up under his name. Further, he is supposedly from Kalifornistan, and we all know that's where the nutbirds lay their eggs.
Sheesh, TAB, don't you pay attention to SAF or CCRKBA posts (using actual quotes/videos from POTUS).
Can the rumor possibly be true that you are Quaker's illigitimate son?
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I'm calling BS on TAB. I've never seen any proof that he exists other than a series of babes in attenuated dress showing up under his name. Further, he is supposedly from Kalifornistan, and we all know that's where the nutbirds lay their eggs.
Sheesh, TAB, don't you pay attention to SAF or CCRKBA posts (using actual quotes/videos from POTUS).
Can the rumor possibly be true that you are Quaker's illigitimate son?
No, but only because they are in the same age range. ;D
Until I see some type of proof, I'm calling BS on this. I'm sure they would like to do that, but I can't see it happening at this point in time.
TAB is almost always wrong on this type of thing and I just got something from NRA-ILA in my e-mail this AM about it.
TAB's good on wood working, boats , and cutie photo's, on this kind of topic , no.
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Somebody with a nice boat is a good person to have around when it all goes down. I have YET to see a zombie that could swim! ;D
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Somebody with a nice boat is a good person to have around when it all goes down. I have YET to see a zombie that could swim! ;D
Especially the way it will "go down" in his area. He can make it to the coast of Nevada. ;D