The Down Range Forum
Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Ichiban on July 19, 2011, 01:17:10 PM
-
Guess which one is serious and which one is joking.
Chris Rock's take on it.
'Bullet Tax' Proposed By Mayoral Candidate
BALTIMORE -- A mayoral candidate's plan to reduce violence in Baltimore includes a "bullet tax" that he said will increase the cost of committing a crime.
Otis Rolley said he would, if elected, propose a $1 per bullet tax on all bullet purchases in the city.
As for the bullet tax, Rolley said the measure would cause a decrease in "random firings that too often happen around holidays" and put a high price tag on the cost of committing a crime.
"While the courts have consistently ruled against significant gun control legislation, there is still a way to decrease crime: substantially increase the cost of its commission," Rolley's plan states.
"Increasing the cost of guns won't work, because many criminals don't purchase new guns, and they can be borrowed or even rented in some areas," his plan states.
http://www.wbaltv.com/r/28595846/detail.html (http://www.wbaltv.com/r/28595846/detail.html)
The logic behind this is mind numbing.
-
This guy's a democrat?...go figure.
-
Sponsored by every sporting goods store more than ten feet outside of city limits? Seriously though, when was the last time anything good came out of Baltimore? 1814? Its Maryland's answer to Newark.
FQ13
-
Sponsored by every sporting goods store more than ten feet outside of city limits? Seriously though, when was the last time anything good came out of Baltimore? 1814? Its Maryland's answer to Newark.
FQ13
1811 - my g/g/grand-father
-
So we have Path and the Star Spangled banner. Nobody but George Will likes the Orioles, and I think John Waters is kind of creepy. So that leaves us with what? The Ace of Cakes? Am I missing anything? ;)
FQ13
-
Oh Good...we are creating a whole new money making opportunity here..... Black Market Bullets
Not to mention what gold mines all the places that sell ammo will become to thieves. They can be sold for $1 each and still be cheaper than "store bought".
Wait...I just realized, I'm sure the intent is to just charge wrong doers the extra $1 since charging law abiding citizens will do nothing at all to raise the price of crime.
-
"Increasing the cost of guns won't work, because many criminals don't purchase new guns, and they can be borrowed or even rented in some areas," his plan states.
Criminals would never, ever think of stealing guns...that's illegal.
-
Hmmm.....maybe I should open up a reloading supply shop in the Baltimore hood. ;D
FQ13 who isn't trying to get around the law your honor. Its just vocational training for underprivileged youth. 8)
-
This guy's a democrat?...go figure.
[gomer pyle voice] SURPRISE SURPRISE [/gomer pyle voice]
-
So we have Path and the Star Spangled banner. Nobody but George Will likes the Orioles, and I think John Waters is kind of creepy. So that leaves us with what? The Ace of Cakes? Am I missing anything? ;)
FQ13
And the USS Constellation.
Can't think of a single good thing since though, and I've got cousins there.
-
Baltimorons, as my wife was born there,....are just the East Coast Chicago,....OBTW, wasn't the last mayor indicted and convicted of embezzling funds?
Where's Marion Barry? ???
This is the state that imposed a "millionare's tax" guess where those evil rich folks moved to?
Out of state..... :P
When the experts projections of "increased revenue" came in way low,.....they were befuddled...... :-\
Dumb ass's
-
We already have a tax on ammunition: It is called the Pittman Robertson act, and it was signed into law in 1937 by Pres. FDR.
I think that between that tax and state sales tax already imposed, we can leave anything gun alone >:(
-
We already have a tax on ammunition: It is called the Pittman Robertson act, and it was signed into law in 1937 by Pres. FDR.
I think that between that tax and state sales tax already imposed, we can leave anything gun alone >:(
Actually its not a tax, its a user fee. It goes to fund wildlife management and it applies to bird watching supplies and fishing gear as well as guns. It was lobbied for by hunters, including the NRA. Of course, this was back when the country was a little more sane politically than it is now. Anyway, its about as morally objectionable as having your vehicle registration fee go towards road maintenance.
FQ13
-
Anyway, its about as morally objectionable as having your vehicle registration fee go towards road maintenance.
FQ13
I saw it in action,...AGAIN today, on the Turnpike Southbound at 595,.......5 men watching 1 man dig,.....even the guy on the bulldozer was amused,..... ::)
-
FQ,
Read the law! It is an excise tax of 11 percent on sproting rifles, shotguns, and ammunition used in hunting. In 1972, due to the involvement of Fred Bear, to include an 11 percent manufacturer's excise tax on archery tackle.
Excise Tax!!!
-
Hmmm.....maybe I should open up a reloading supply shop in the Baltimore hood. ;D
FQ13 who isn't trying to get around the law your honor. Its just vocational training for underprivileged youth. 8)
A reloading shop would not be a good idea since the tax would be on bullets not ammunition. Sorry FQ, but a good try anyway.
Pecos
-
Stock up on wheel weights.
-
FQ,
Read the law! It is an excise tax of 11 percent on sproting rifles, shotguns, and ammunition used in hunting. In 1972, due to the involvement of Fred Bear, to include an 11 percent manufacturer's excise tax on archery tackle.
Excise Tax!!!
And why is this bad? Roads, game wardens, schools, WMAs etc don't spring up like mushrooms. They cost money. Those who benefit should pay, or have you drowned in GOP kool aid? To me, Pittman Robertson is like buying a hunting or fishing licence, it pays for the management and preservation of the game you hunt. Is that a problem M58?
FQ13
-
I didn't say it was a bad thing! I was making the point that we already tax ourselves (this excise tax was proposed and pushed by our industry), so stay the F off our backs >:(
-
Pittman Robertson funds go to the NSSF, and are now being used to benefit Shooters as well as hunters by building ranges.
You would know these things if you followed MB's pod casts.
-
Say that until you run out of breath M58 (and I'll say it right along with you). I don't think there has ever been a group of Americans who have lobbied harder to have a tax imposed on themselves than hunters. Why? Because we are responsible folks who understand that our hunting heritage requires public land, and that costs money. We worked hard to pay a tax. Who the heck is this fool to say we need to pay more? What part of shall not be infringed don't you get? I think Chris Rock is hilarious. I'll watch his shows. I ain't voting for him though. ;)
FQ13 who really doesn't disagree with you, I just think user fees are a valid way to pay for public goods.
-
They go a lot of places. MN DNR gets quite abit for firearm safety and hunters education, and I think I'll be hearing this weekend that Pheasants Forever is getting some for the shooting training courses.
-
FQ, the reason P/R funds are going to help build ranges now (Thank you Micheal Bane ) is because hunting has for the last several decades, had a decreasing impact on shooting sports and provides very little of the P/R funds.
Basically hunters have been mooching all the funds provided by shooters.
-
FQ, the reason P/R funds are going to help build ranges now (Thank you Micheal Bane ) is because hunting has for the last several decades, had a decreasing impact on shooting sports and provides very little of the P/R funds.
Basically hunters have been mooching all the funds provided by shooters.
You ain't wrong, but, buying land for hunting does have value added. There are no condos or strip malls and you can take your kids camping and fishing. Now that Pittman Robertson taxes hve been expanded (WITH the restriction of where the money was spent) its a win win.You are right it should be spent on ranges as well as WMAs. Still, I'm not an overtaxed peasant here, I'm satisfied customer. Its a purely voluntary tax. Don't buy a gun or a fishing rod, don't pay a dime. Buy a rod or a gun and you'll have something to fish for or shoot at. It works for me.
FQ13