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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: RTFM on July 29, 2011, 03:20:43 PM
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Would you?
I'm considering selling my GLOCK 26 by the local "want adds" but I'm not sure if I want to deal with the (hopeful) flood of calls and having to deal with the great unwashed - and are there possible ramifications by selling public to public?
How would one keep track of the sale after the sale?
Do you ask for a copy of the buyers drivers license to prove the sale if future reference is needed?
(I would not personally allow a stranger to take a copy of my license..... (love these double standards...))
I may look in to Guns America and sites like that which may be a better avenue for a "private sale"
What are your thoughts on being the sell it to someone unknown to you.
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The few times I've actually sold or traded to a private citizen in a face-to-face transaction, I had a printed (generic) bill of sale off my state's .gov website. I just filled in the standard generic info along with the serial number and we both signed and dated it. I knew none of this was required in my state, but I was basically covering my butt.
I have always been leery of putting ads in the newspaper, but to each his own.
Have you checked about putting it on consignment at a gun shop?
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A friend of mine would always have the recipient show his driver's license for identification, record the number, and have the person complete Form 4473 just like a licensed dealer does.
You then have IDed the person for residency and age, verified the ID by picture and have the person's sworn statement, just as a dealer does, for all the other stuff. You just don't have to ever send it in or have it inspected ....unless it comes time to CYA.
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I have sold some at the gun show. I had a bill of sale listing the type, model and s/n of the gun. I asked for identification then put down the name of the buyer and the type of id. DL etc. No address or d/l #. I had my name on it as the seller. I showed my id to them so they could see my name but covered the rest of the info with my fingers, also had 2 copies, one for me (original) and the copy for the buyer. Was asked if I was a dealer said no it was just a case of CYA.
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First, HOW MUCH DO YOU WANT FOR IT. I've always wanted a G26 to go with my G27. ;D
As Peg said, I too have always filled out a bill of sale, I've never gone the 4473 route though.
I have always wanted to see a drivers license to check residency, age and record it on the bill of sale. If someone doesn't have a DL or a state issued ID or doesn't want to show it, they don't want to buy the gun AFAIC.
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I would not use the local paper. I don't want to advertise to the community that I have guns. That being said by a small town boy that is know for having guns :-\ However, no reason to educate the public if not needed.
If you sell it in anyway that does not go through an FFL, I would at least get a copy of their driver license information. I have sold two handguns privately, and I have dl information and I had them fill out a transfer form even though I did not do the Brady on them. Maybe paranoid, but CYA!
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Run it through a dealer. The transfer fee is the best insurance and if the buyer refuses then don't sell it. This isn't required where I live either but it could cya.
Pecos
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I've never sold a handgun privately to anybody who was not personally known to me.
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Our LR (Local Rag) will not take "Guns for sale" adds! Try a gunshow or gun shop.
Richard
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I'd be leery of the ad. Someone might just decide they want the gun (and the others you probably have) without paying. They get your address and return later to steal the rest. Just post it here, it'll probably be gone in week if the price is reasonable.
FQ13
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I've had good luck with armslist.com in the past. Just select your state/city and place your ad. Initial correspondence is done via email. Be aware that your email address passes through so the other party will have that.
A couple of hints:
1.) Cash is king.
2.) Do NOT transact business at your house. Meet someplace public but with privacy - think the far end of a big box store parking lot.
3.) If possible complete the transaction during daylight hours.
4.) Find out what your state laws are concerning who can buy a firearm in your state (ie. do they have to be a resident of the state).
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Most "big time" newspapers won't take gun ads. Lucky if yours does.
I've sold in Atlanta back when a rag called "The Atlanta Advertiser" use to take gun ads. Wasn't a particular problem. We chatted on the phone. Got some bask id from the caller over the phone. What's your name, were do you live and work. Who do we know in common. Where do you usually shoot? Do you compete? Not direct questions but more 5-10 minutes of "get to know you" conversation. We'd meet in the parking lot of a local gun store/range so anyone seeing us handle guns wouldn't think twice about it. I always carried. Usually by the time I got to the face to face meeting we'd know who each other was.
Now these were in times before GunBroker, before widespread forums and email lists. So it was the basic way, other than posting ads at the local range on their bulletin board. Which, if your range allows, works good for shotguns.
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I've only sold my guns one of two ways:
1. Consignment at a local gun store. Not only is it safer, but the dealer usually knows the best price to sell it.
2. Gun shows. When I get a buyer, I get their name & address (verified by looking at the DL) and have them sign a bill of sale. Then I file the bill and scan it in my computer so, if the LEO's need info, I can find it quick.
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I've done a lot of FTF sales, both buying and selling. A bill of sale is ALWAYS required listing both our names, addresses, DL numbers, a discription of the items and type of transaction (buy/sell/trade). I used to use the local newspaper, but they are very unfriendly to gun owners now. There is a website called Texas Gun Trader that has a very good BOS that I use in all my transactions;
http://texasguntrader.com/billofsale.pdf
I always set up a FTF meeting at a gun range or the parking lot of a gun store. If you get there early, you can scout out the surroundings first. I've only had trouble once, and I saw it coming and walked away.
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Have you tried the classified section here on downrange? Of course it have to be shipped from your FFL dealer to the buyers FFL dealer, that might raise the price a bit due to shipping & paper work. Just suggesting an option for you.