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Title: California Assembly to Consider Severe Restrictions on Ammunition Sales!
Post by: Hazcat on March 20, 2008, 01:30:48 PM
California Assembly to Consider Severe Restrictions on Ammunition Sales!
 
Wednesday, March 19, 2008
 
Stand Up and Make Your Voice Heard Today!
On Tuesday, April 8, the Assembly Public Safety Committee will consider legislation that would require gun owners to obtain a “permit-to-purchase” before buying handgun ammunition.

Introduced by State Assembly Member Kevin De Leon (D-45), Assembly Bill 2062 puts ammunition sales in the crosshairs.  AB2062 would require that law-abiding gun owners obtain a permit to buy handgun ammunition and would impose severe restrictions on the private transfers of handgun ammunition.  Applicants for a “permit-to-purchase” would be required to submit to a background check, pay a $35 fee, and wait as long as 30 days to receive the permit.

Under AB2062, it would be unlawful to privately transfer more than 50 rounds of ammunition per month, even between family and friends, unless you are registered as a “handgun ammunition vendor” in the Department of Justice’s database.  Ammunition retailers would have to be licensed and store ammunition in such a manner that it would be inaccessible to purchasers.  The bill would also require vendors to keep a record of the transaction including the ammunition buyer’s name, driver’s license, the quantity, caliber and type of ammunition purchased, and right thumbprint, which would be submitted to the Department of Justice or the number of his handgun ammunition purchase permit.  Vendors would be required to contact the purchase permit database, to verify the validity of a permit before completing a sale.  All ammunition sales in the State of California would be subject to a $3 per transaction tax.  Lastly, mail order ammunition sales would be prohibited.  Any violator of AB2062 would be subject to civil fines.

Please contact the members of the Assembly Public Safety Committee and your State Assembly Member TODAY and respectfully urge them to oppose this onerous attack on our Second Amendment freedoms.  Contact information for the committee members can be found below.  Please click here to find your State Assembly Member.

 
http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=3693
Title: Re: California Assembly to Consider Severe Restrictions on Ammunition Sales!
Post by: DDMac on March 20, 2008, 01:39:56 PM
Sounds like another sham law that will fall... after Heller is rendered. We hope.
I think it is similar to what Illinois has already, right KiloPapaRomeo?
Mac.
Title: Re: California Assembly to Consider Severe Restrictions on Ammunition Sales!
Post by: Pathfinder on March 20, 2008, 08:01:56 PM
Sounds like another sham law that will fall... after Heller is rendered. We hope.
I think it is similar to what Illinois has already, right KiloPapaRomeo?
Mac.

When I left the people's republik of illinois, before you could even handle ammo you had to have and hand over a valid FOID card - prior restraint on the part of the state. Been gone (blessedly) five years now, have a CCW and all. But I don't know what the law is at this moment in ill.
Title: Re: California Assembly to Consider Severe Restrictions on Ammunition Sales!
Post by: Hazcat on March 20, 2008, 08:06:18 PM
When I left the people's republik of illinois, before you could even handle ammo you had to have and hand over a valid FOID card - prior restraint on the part of the state. Been gone (blessedly) five years now, have a CCW and all. But I don't know what the law is at this moment in ill.

From what I gather on different boards it's still the same.
Title: Re: California Assembly to Consider Severe Restrictions on Ammunition Sales!
Post by: cookie62 on March 20, 2008, 08:35:17 PM
Illinois isn't as bad as whats being proposed in Cal., but you do have to show your FOID(firearm owners identification) card before you can purchase ammo. No permit or fee is required.
Title: Re: California Assembly to Consider Severe Restrictions on Ammunition Sales!
Post by: Hazcat on March 20, 2008, 08:38:56 PM
Illinois isn't as bad as whats being proposed in Cal., but you do have to show your FOID(firearm owners identification) card before you can purchase ammo. No permit or fee is required.

What about mail order?
Title: Re: California Assembly to Consider Severe Restrictions on Ammunition Sales!
Post by: cookie62 on March 20, 2008, 08:49:09 PM
What about mail order?


You can mail order, unless you live in Cook County (Chicago) or some of the surounding counties. Luckily I don't. A few places won't send ammo to any place in Illinois, but I've never had a problem.
Title: Re: California Assembly to Consider Severe Restrictions on Ammunition Sales!
Post by: DDMac on March 21, 2008, 06:09:55 AM
I forgot how many of y'all were acquainted with Illinois. The ID card came in shortly after I was escorted to the State line and asked to leave in 1966. I know that by 1970, California already had a waiting period for handguns and it's been all downhill from there. They REALLY don't trust citizens.
Mac.
Title: Re: California Assembly to Consider Severe Restrictions on Ammunition Sales!
Post by: saltydogbk on March 21, 2008, 07:15:19 AM
Here  in New York the politicians like to refer to us as subjects, not citizens. >:(
Title: Re: California Assembly to Consider Severe Restrictions on Ammunition Sales!
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 21, 2008, 12:54:49 PM
I forgot how many of y'all were acquainted with Illinois. The ID card came in shortly after I was escorted to the State line and asked to leave in 1966. I know that by 1970, California already had a waiting period for handguns and it's been all downhill from there. They REALLY don't trust citizens.
Mac.

That sounds like an interesting story .
Title: Re: California Assembly to Consider Severe Restrictions on Ammunition Sales!
Post by: Hazcat on March 21, 2008, 01:01:12 PM
That sounds like an interesting story .

I was thinking the same thing! (inquiring minds and all ;D )
Title: Re: California Assembly to Consider Severe Restrictions on Ammunition Sales!
Post by: DDMac on March 21, 2008, 01:15:22 PM
That car was returned (just a misunderstanding), the underaged girl was out with some other guy all night (another misunderstanding), I did not pawn my EVIL step-mother's neclace for ammo money (framed) and the Juvy records were sealed. At least they had ONE good law in the Land of Lincoln. That's enough. Don't want to get booted for Hooliganism. Mac.
ps I'm doing MUCH better now.
Title: Re: California Assembly to Consider Severe Restrictions on Ammunition Sales!
Post by: Hazcat on March 21, 2008, 01:20:41 PM
That car was returned (just a misunderstanding), the underaged girl was out with some other guy all night (another misunderstanding), I did not pawn my EVIL step-mother's neclace for ammo money (framed) and the Juvy records were sealed. At least they had ONE good law in the Land of Lincoln. That's enough. Don't want to get booted for Hooliganism. Mac.
ps I'm doing MUCH better now.

LOL!

OK, Gomez!
Title: Re: California Assembly to Consider Severe Restrictions on Ammunition Sales!
Post by: DDMac on March 21, 2008, 01:33:58 PM
Old Fart! Oops, Old phaartte. Didn't mean to offend. Mac.
Title: Re: California Assembly to Consider Severe Restrictions on Ammunition Sales!
Post by: Hazcat on March 21, 2008, 01:37:57 PM
Old Fart! Oops, Old phaartte. Didn't mean to offend. Mac.

Who?  Me?  Caramia!