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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Lucas on March 21, 2008, 01:39:11 AM
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I dont know if everyone got this, or wants to hear it.
All ammunition goes up 9% April 1st. Some Federal tax thing, Im not sure. I saw mention of it on here somewhere, but when I went into the gun store today they confirmed it. They said they just got the email this morning. :'(
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Well that sucks. Guess I should think about stocking up.
Managed to find this in a google search:
ATK Ammunition & Related Products
900 Ehlen Drive
Anoka, MN 55303
763-323-3817 Tel
763-323-2570 Fax
anthony.acitelli@atk.com
www.atk.com
March 13, 2008
Dear ATK Ammunition Customer:
Over the last two years and as we move into the second quarter of 2008 we continue to see
unprecedented raw material cost escalation in our business. As a result we are forced to
announce a price increase effective April 1, 2008. This will include a 9% increase in all
promotional ammunition and a 5% increase in other standard catalog ammunition products.
New pricing and programs will be communicated to you shortly.
We appreciate your understanding.
-- Kirk.
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I am ordering all I can.
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90%? I'm only reading 5-9% unless there's something I'm not understanding. Still, any increase is very bad news, I mean didn't they just increase the price very recently?
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Fuzzy math? I just ordered 400 rounds of .223. If they can't get the guns they will go after the ammo. Their reasoning...the 2nd doesn't say anything about ammo.
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Go to the bank!
Ammo prices have sky rocketed the past 2 to 3 years. I bought 100 rds of 38 special 130 grain FMJ from
Winchester at Wal mart this past Monday afternoon and I paid $31.58 + tax. Ammo is like gold. You are
correct, the political left will go after ammo as a back door way of gun control.
I cannot keep up. Limited funds and a long list of things I need to buy including an updated reloading press.
Anyone have any suggestions on a auto progressive press?? Horandy or Dillon?
Thanks
Donald
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Maybe Chris Rock started it all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juLQBeZXmPU
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Coltfan
I like my Dillon 650 a lot. I am going to get the automatic case feeder so I can keep up with it. It is great for .357 SIG and .45 reloading. And Dillon's customer support service is very good indeed. I always get good advice from the Dillon.
Now I am going to have to get the dies for .223 / 5.56 and 9 mm as well.
The 650 really cranks the rounds out so fast that I only reload about once every 2 months or so, because I can build up the stock so fast. BTW I shoot at least 100 rounds of each a week. I didn't bother to reload .223 and 9 mm until now because they could be had cheap -- not any more.
The big problem now is finding enough bullets when I want to load up. I haven't ordered primers in a few years. I buy primers in quantity through the club. I have started buying some bullets each time I go to the gun shop. Sort of in line with MB's suggestions on large cap magazines.
You can use the same powder for the pistol that you use to reload your shot shells if you choose carefully.
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I have learned lately that it is not all about price but also about availability. I was at the store, and the shelf was full of .223. I took all I could afford plus an extra $100 worth (one way to diet). When a friend saw what I had picked up he asked if I found a good price. I just told him I found it. Too often over the last year the ammo shelves have been bare.
I was at a National chain store and picked up some match .22 to use. I had had a hard time finding it and they had 3000 rounds. They asked how much I wanted, and I took it all. When I was back there six weeks later they had none. The salesman told me that they hadn't had any come in since I cleaned them out.
SAVE YOUR PENNIES AND BUY ALL YOU CAN WHENEVER YOU FIND IT !!!
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I just talked to my dealer here in the Denver area. He said the 90% figure was way out. The 5-9% is more typical and has been so for the last year. The raw materials, i.e. lead, steel/copper, powder are all going up. Just like everything else in this world getting out of control. Guess we can expect more in the future.
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9, 90 I might have heard him wrong, either way it sucks!!!
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9, 90 I might have heard him wrong, either way it sucks!!!
thats for sure >:(
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According to our findings, price increase from April 1 will be in the 8-15% range.
Added the increase the last couple of years, we are talking close to 90% for sure.
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Correct Marshal, my dealer said it's been steadily going up, so if you put all the increases in one lump your gonna be in the 90% neighborhood...WAAAAAY SUCKS >:(
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I am going Monday to buy all I can. I will use the camp stove for a while. GEAR UP!
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At the Crossroads of the West Gunshow couple weeks ago I bought 500 rnds of .380 ball ammo for target shooting. Cost me $136.00 w/tax. If I remember right that's about $40. more than last year. That's about 27 cents a round. Two years ago I bought (I think) 1000 rnds of Wolf 7.62X39 for $98. I remember it was cheap. The .45 and 9x19 ammo was the same as the .380 at the show. Of course .380 is kinda high anyways. My figgers might be off a bit though. ???
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Take at look at this place for ammo. http://www.outdoormarksman.com/index.php?warehouse=select
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WOLF ( RUSSIAN) 7.62X39....1000 RDS/ CASE.........................................$189.95
WOLF ( RUSSIAN ) .223AMMO...500 RDS/CASE.....$119.95. / ..1000 RDS... $229.95
WE ALSO HAVE WOLF PISTOL AMMO
WOLF 9MM NEW PRODUCTION ...1000 RDS PER CASE......$149.95
WOLF .45 NEW PRODUCTION.....500RDS/CASE..........$119.95
WOLF .40 CAL, NEW PRODUCTION...500 RDS/ CASE..........$109.95
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Classic has this.
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WOLF ( RUSSIAN) 7.62X39....1000 RDS/ CASE.........................................$189.95
WOLF ( RUSSIAN ) .223AMMO...500 RDS/CASE.....$119.95. / ..1000 RDS... $229.95
WE ALSO HAVE WOLF PISTOL AMMO
WOLF 9MM NEW PRODUCTION ...1000 RDS PER CASE......$149.95
WOLF .45 NEW PRODUCTION.....500RDS/CASE..........$119.95
WOLF .40 CAL, NEW PRODUCTION...500 RDS/ CASE..........$109.95
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Classic has this.
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Link? Any .45 colt? (Long Colt)
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Link, 2How, Link?? Can't find it.
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Link, 2How, Link?? Can't find it.
Mac,
I think I found it.
http://classicarms.us/ammunition.htm
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I know your going to hate me again >:( but I found a guy on AR15dotcom, selling 25 boxes of Hornaday Tap 12ga, reduced recoil 8 pellet for 4 bucks a box. picked it up a couple of hours ago. Those of you who have followed my posts know I'm a HOUND!! if you see a good deal, or anything close buy it, even in calibers you don't own. I have a good friend who has a mini gun, year before last he shot up 350,000 rounds and last year wanted to buy a million rounds, I said no problem, I know some people, talked to my people and they said sorry milsurp all gone, not expecting any till the war is over, and now dcm is selling components in .308 and .223, instead of loaded ammo, you can still get 30/06 as a complete cartridge. Now the stuff he was buying for 15 cents a round 2 years ago is 40 cents a round, and thats buying it in 100,000 lots, and thats all I could find. So he's pretty smart, He has some vickers belt feds in 8mm, He cornered the market and bought ( deep breath ) 19 pallets :o
If you don't reload start.
If you don't cast bullets, start.
If you see a deal, don't tell anybody but us, and buy it. ;D
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I'm especially in the market for 45 colt (cowboy / full power but must be reloadable unless a super deal).
Just ordered 480 rounds of 30-06 from CMP. Got 250 rounds of 44mag from Outdoor Marksman. Could use more at a deal.
Also 30-30 and 30 carbine needed.
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Hey 2how, How much is the shipping gonna damage us? I know it's heavy and expensive to ship. So, how about for instance 500 rnds of 9 mil to Denver area? Or 500 rnds of .45?
Geez, your prices sound way good.
Thanx in advance..
J.C.
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Hey 2how, How much is the shipping gonna damage us? I know it's heavy and expensive to ship. So, how about for instance 500 rnds of 9 mil to Denver area? Or 500 rnds of .45?
Geez, your prices sound way good.
Thanx in advance..
J.C.
Don't know about 2How stuff but my 250 rounds of 44 mag cost about 18.00 from KY to FL.
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Geographically, that's about the same difference give or take a hundred miles or two. Sounds good. Man, if I ever get to FLA i'll just have to look you up. We'll have to go shootin and beer drinkin (in that order)
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Geographically, that's about the same difference give or take a hundred miles or two. Sounds good. Man, if I ever get to FLA i'll just have to look you up. We'll have to go shootin and beer drinkin (in that order)
You're invited anytime, my friend! I even have a spare room or two.
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Cool! Can I bring my two buddies Bob Glock and Jim Springfield? ;D
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Cool! Can I bring my two buddies Bob Glock and Jim Springfield? ;D
ABSO-FRIGGIN-LUTELY!!
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just put in my order for some heavy556/223 70+grHP boat tails and it looks like just shy of $500 after tax.
Ouch man. :o
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Ammo prices going up again + Daughter getting married in November + Getting into an argument with wife about picking more ammo up,( because of wedding)= I'm so screwed. Is this ammo issue ever going to slow down. Or am I going to have to take up a different hobbie. LIKE BREATHING AIR :'( :'( :'(
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If they'll tax carbon emissions...air cain't be far behind.
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Ammo prices going up again + Daughter getting married in November + Getting into an argument with wife about picking more ammo up,( because of wedding)= I'm so screwed. Is this ammo issue ever going to slow down. Or am I going to have to take up a different hobbie. LIKE BREATHING AIR :'( :'( :'(
wisconsin... you HAVE to have ammo.. !! Who is going to protect wife/daughter/ son in law when the sh** hits the fan?
And it's going to... so THEN.. which will have more importance? Ammo? Or whether there was another bouquet of flowers or something else that no one ever remembers at weddings. ::)
*Ya want me to talk to her for you??* ;D
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OOPPS! It did not wait went to Jay's Sporting Goods and ammo started going up last week. The ammo my friend had ordered went from $93.00 to $108.00 a box. Please do not shoot the messinger! :(
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OOPPS! It did not wait went to Jay's Sporting Goods and ammo started going up last week. The ammo my friend had ordered went from $93.00 to $108.00 a box. Please do not shoot the messinger! :(
Ya best duck! (http://www.mazeguy.net/surprised/duck.gif) I'm PO'd an I gotta shoot something! (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/waffen/violent-smiley-044.gif)
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Just found out why some of the reasons that it took a jump. A young man I know that is in the military told me that they throw away more than they use, yep, seems that if they get 10,000 rounds and the seal is broke i they throw it a way .After I got done jumping and spining around where I could talk agin I asked him why, but why in the wide wide world of sports whould that do that??!! Because they do not want to do the paper work. Now you have to excuse me while I go and spit and sputter some more >:( >:( >:(
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Hay HAZ hope ya gotts lots of ammo after what I just found out I'm mad as He**! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Hay HAZ hope ya gotts lots of ammo after what I just found out I'm mad as He**! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Well, when I was in if we took ammo we shot it. Period. Retuning live ammo was a PAIN! So I can understand his dilemma. It's called bureaucracy! (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/sauer/angry-smiley-005.gif)
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wisconsin... you HAVE to have ammo.. !! Who is going to protect wife/daughter/ son in law when the sh** hits the fan?
And it's going to... so THEN.. which will have more importance? Ammo? Or whether there was another bouquet of flowers or something else that no one ever remembers at weddings. ::)
*Ya want me to talk to her for you??* ;D
Thanks for the offer! But I don't think it will help. My daughter is a Democrat :'( + My wife forgot back in the 80's while I was at work someone tried to break in while she was at home. The sound of her arming the pump shotgun was the only thing that made him run off.= Me pulling my hair out. Whats left of it. Instead of talking to her would you consider adopting me. I'm very handy around the house and the reloading bench. I always put the toilet seat down. P.S. I always make sure the toilet paper roll is full ;D ;D
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Well, when I was in if we took ammo we shot it. Period. Retuning live ammo was a PAIN! So I can understand his dilemma. It's called bureaucracy! (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/sauer/angry-smiley-005.gif)
When I was in the NH National Guard in the EARLY 90's Before they closed Fort Devens, Any ammo we drew that we could not shoot up went in the river, it was unofficial SOP as it was simpler than turning it back in and did not get your budget cut the following year. :(
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Could not get in the military(not for lack of trying) but I understand now thanks Tom and HAZ.
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Well the latest report on Diesel is going to 450 a gallon so the freight bill going up so buy know I was buying some BB military 9mm FMJ spam cans 1440 rounds 200.00 buck, He can't get anymore. Shooting targets it shoots and that's all you need. I hate to say it but stock up because it doesn't look like it's going down anytime soon. Thank got for the 550 packs of 22 lr at walley world around 12.00bucks. :o
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Thanks for the offer! But I don't think it will help. My daughter is a Democrat :'( + My wife forgot back in the 80's while I was at work someone tried to break in while she was at home. The sound of her arming the pump shotgun was the only thing that made him run off.= Me pulling my hair out. Whats left of it. Instead of talking to her would you consider adopting me. I'm very handy around the house and the reloading bench. I always put the toilet seat down. P.S. I always make sure the toilet paper roll is full ;D ;D
Adopt you? :o
Well, hell ..why not.
I mean.. a full roll of toilet paper is worth something.. and besides I can use another deduction on my income taxes.. LOL
You aren't going to call me Mommie are you? ;D ;D ;D ;D
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You aren't going to call me Mommie are you? ;D ;D ;D ;D
(http://www.cascity.com/howard/animations/166.gif) ((SHUT UP HAZ!!)) >:(
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(http://www.cascity.com/howard/animations/166.gif) ((SHUT UP HAZ!!)) >:(
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Wow your fast! ;D
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Back at the shot show of 2007, both Federal and Winchester were not releasing .223 ammo due to govt contract for the entire year of 2007. I have not heard about this year yet from either but will look into it on mon.
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(http://www.cascity.com/howard/animations/166.gif) ((SHUT UP HAZ!!)) >:(
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DANG!! You won't let me have any fun!! >:( >:( (but I bet ya knew what I was thinkin' (http://www.mazeguy.net/silly/eyebrows.gif) )
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DANG!! You won't let me have any fun!! >:( >:( (but I bet ya knew what I was thinkin' (http://www.mazeguy.net/silly/eyebrows.gif) )
Probably the same thing we ALL were thinking . . . . . :o :o :o :o
;D
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Don't pay any attention to 'em wisconsin.. They are all just a bunch of preeeee-verts! ;D
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Don't pay any attention to 'em wisconsin.. They are all just a bunch of preeeee-verts! ;D
Darn, I was just getting used to spelling "Hooligan" ;D
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Darn, I was just getting used to spelling "Hooligan" ;D
Personally I prefer "rebel without a clue" (http://www.mazeguy.net/transport/moped.gif) (http://www.mazeguy.net/outfitted/propeller.gif)
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GREAT NOW I GOTTA ADD SOMETHING ELSE TO SPELL CHECK! ;D ;D
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Spell Check is over rated...that's why I keep an eraser and white-out next to my computer just in case. ;D
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Spell Check is over rated...that's why I keep an eraser and white-out next to my computer just in case. ;D
Blond?? ;D
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Blond?? ;D
Eaaaassy big guy ............easy~~~ >:(
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Blond?? ;D
No, salt 'n' pepper actually. Sorry Haz...your not my type
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Don't pay any attention to 'em wisconsin.. They are all just a bunch of preeeee-verts! ;D
One thing is for certain :o here on DRTV they move in for the kill real quick!