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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: twyacht on August 20, 2011, 05:41:25 PM
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This was sent to me by a friend and I thought I would share it here. Since here in S. Fl. it's becoming prime hurricane season,; Probably have T.S. Irene by tomorrow, making a bee-line for my area....
http://www.thoughtsaloud.com/essays/gun-collecting/
Gun Collecting
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The following may strike some as provocative. Good. It is meant to inspire Patriots and government officials alike to think, discuss it with their friends, and be prepared for the momentous decision they will be required to make rather quickly, if an attempt to disarm Americans is ever tried again. For, no matter how it might be couched, spun, and rationalized, it will signal the end of America, as we have known it. With the current mood among the electorate, and big-government oriented Progressives now at the top of the ticket for both major political parties, the Progressives are about to take over our government lock, stock, and barrel. These folks have a radically different view of the proper role of government than common folk in the heartland, and actually think the majority has the right to violate the Liberty and natural rights of the minority by legislative or judicial fiat. Liberty loving Patriots will need to remain vigilant and prepared to defend those rights, or accept the status of serf or slave in a glorious sounding Progressive utopia, organized on the repugnant principle of mob rule.
Remember Katrina – Gun Collecting Can Be Treason
Since our schools won’t teach genuine American history anymore, many can be forgiven for not recalling the provocation that caused proud Englishmen to take up arms against the forces of their king at Lexington and Concord Massachusetts in 1775. These are now considered the opening battles of the American Revolution, even though they occurred over a year before the signing of the Declaration of Independence.
When the Minutemen started shooting the Redcoats, who were on a mission to confiscate and destroy their arsenal at Concord, they would have been considered by most as engaging in insurrection against their lawful government. From the perspective of the King, his loyal troops, and the majority of loyal British subjects then residing in the colonies, the king’s troops were just following lawful orders to disarm the colonists. The Loyalists undoubtedly viewed the Patriots as a lunatic fringe of disgruntled ‘tax protesters,’ and supported the Redcoats.
The Patriots learned a couple of valuable lessons that day. One was to disperse and conceal their arms so they didn’t make a convenient target for the forces of tyranny. The other was that they could easily rout an overwhelming force of ‘Regulars’ with guerrilla tactics. The lesson for the Loyalists was that vigilant free men on these shores – American Patriots – would never passively allow themselves to be disarmed by their government.
To true Patriots, the meaning and intent of the Second Amendment to our Constitution is not in question. It is no less than the reset button on our Republic – in case the First Amendment doesn’t work, the Second one will. It protects a sovereign right of all free men that is not negotiable, alterable, or subject to judicial interpretation. Frankly, all those officials forever tinkering with ways to get around it are wasting their time, on an endeavor that is bordering on treason. Please understand that this inalienable natural right existed long before the Constitution was drafted, and will exist long after these United States disintegrate. The only reason it was enumerated in the Bill of Rights, was to make it clear to our public servants that it was taboo for them even to try repeating King George’s mistake.
Ninety percent of Americans could vote to repeal the Second Amendment, and the right of free men to own and carry weapons would still exist; for our Constitution does not, and could not, grant or deny our natural rights. It can only help us defend them from those who wish it could. If you do not understand this truth, please do some studying, discussing, and pondering until you do. Free men in this world are born with their natural rights, they are not a mere privilege to be bestowed or withdrawn at the whim of a capricious government, popularly elected or not.
The Second Amendment is not about hunting, target practice, or fowling pieces. Arms are weapons, and it would be irresponsible of Americans ever to permit errant public servants to disarm us. The disarming of honest citizens during the civil unrest (when they were arguably most needed) in the aftermath of the Hurricane Katrina disaster, was an embarrassment to law enforcement everywhere, and a wakeup call to the rest of us. The citizens of New Orleans were so caught off guard by the audacity of the move that the police got away with it. We simply cannot ever permit such a travesty to happen again.
Therefore:
To all elected officials, sheriffs, deputies, marshals, constables, sundry law enforcement officers, and military personnel. As a Vietnam era veteran and former peace officer myself, I respect your service and understand that most of you value our Liberty as much as any citizen. For the few who may not fully comprehend what that means, this is a reminder that as a condition of your employment as one of our public servants, you were required to swear an oath to defend the Constitution of these United States of America. We the people who employ you, take this oath seriously and regard any breach of same treasonous.
Be advised that hereafter your sovereign employers will consider any order to disarm private citizens, in any jurisdiction within these United States, a brazen act of treason. Further, any officer who obeys such a treasonous order, and attempts to confiscate our arms, is himself engaged in an act of treason. Keep in mind, “I was just following orders…” never has been, and never will be, considered a valid defense for treason. Anyone receiving such an order has the solemn duty to arrest immediately the traitorous fool who made it; and, most regrettably, any fellow officers inclined to execute it. Failing that, it would be advisable to resign and get out of a conspicuous uniform immediately.
For those arrogant enough to think government has the overwhelming force and would prevail, think again. We take our Liberty seriously. Unlike the unprepared and baffled citizens of New Orleans, do not expect us to cower in our homes awaiting your arrival. You will be ambushed in the field in the spirit of North Bridge at Concord, by a serious force of well-armed citizens, intent on summarily eradicating with extreme prejudice, any traitors who are intent on disarming us. Then, we will track down and hang the supercilious ass who gave the treasonous order.
Don’t even think about violating the Posse Comitatus Act and trying to field our military forces against us. It is unclear how many would violate their oath and fire on American Patriots defending their right to keep and bear arms, but we would prevail in the end anyway. We would win the same way our forefathers defeated the British occupation; the Vietnamese defeated the American occupation; the Afghans defeated the Soviet occupation; and the Taliban now seem to be in the process of defeating ours. These victories came about, not by brilliance on the battlefield; but by simply refusing to lose, and wearing down the occupiers until they eventually just gave up and went home, weary of the grind, the cost, and the frustrating inability ever to achieve final victory.
Ponder this carefully, you Sons of Liberty, and be well prepared for the fateful decision you are likely to eventually have to make. Respect for authority is deeply ingrained in many; but there frequently comes a time in a man’s life when honor and self respect demand that we stand up on our hind legs and bellow in rage at injustice and the forces of tyranny. We are fast approaching such a time and our birthright as freemen will be seriously tested. Freeman, serf, or slave… the choice will be yours to make. Choose wisely.
Note: Please feel free to copy and disseminate any or all of this essay, with or without attribution, as far and wide as possible. I really do think that our nation would be well served by thoughtful and open discussions on this subject ahead of time; particularly in cop shops and military barracks. ◄Dave►
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Me and Dave are already on a list or three,....so.....
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This guy must be an extremist. That's what I've been called for presenting the same arguments.
Looks like I'm in good company.
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This guy must be an extremist. That's what I've been called for presenting the same arguments.
Looks like I'm in good company.
Make a little room on the bench, Tom. And make sure there's enough room for my guns and ammo. Haz and Deepwater should be along shortly. And Haz Jr. is making us all lunch.
To quote a famous American, "...from my cold, dead hands."
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You know what, I am not going to embrace the extremist label. In fact I utterly reject it. Here's why. I'm just someone who wants to live in peace, mind my own business, and doesn't give a f..k what you think about me as long as you leave me alone. I'll be armed because good fences make good neighbors, but that is the extent of my political ambitions. To be an extremist means I have an agenda that I want to force you to subscribe to. I don't. I just want to be left alone. In return I will extend the same courtesy to you. And gee, isn't that easy? That, my friend is the basis of the social contract that formed this nation. No extremism required.
FQ13 who says laissez faire and screw the BS.
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You know what, I am not going to embrace the extremist label. In fact I utterly reject it. Here's why. I'm just someone who wants to live in peace, mind my own business, and doesn't give a f..k what you think about me as long as you leave me alone. I'll be armed because good fences make good neighbors, but that is the extent of my political ambitions. To be an extremist means I have an agenda that I want to force you to subscribe to. I don't. I just want to be left alone. In return I will extend the same courtesy to you. And gee, isn't that easy? That, my friend is the basis of the social contract that formed this nation. No extremism required.
FQ13 who says laissez faire and screw the BS.
Actually I'm a moderate, the political spectrum ranges from no rules at all, Anarchy, to totalitarian, Nazi, Communist Royalty whatever you wish to call it.
I'm somewhere about the middle
Besides, If I were to resort to extremism they wouldn't like me ;D
Thing is, it's like "racist", I've been accused of it so often for opposing the sacred black cow that I feel guilty for having white sheets on my bed.
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Actually I'm a moderate, the political spectrum ranges from no rules at all, Anarchy, to totalitarian, Nazi, Communist Royalty whatever you wish to call it.
I'm somewhere about the middle
Besides, If I were to resort to extremism they wouldn't like me ;D
Thing is, it's like "racist", I've been accused of it so often for opposing the sacred black cow that I feel guilty for having white sheets on my bed.
The point is Tom that I don't care if they like me. When it comes to politics there are basically two classes of people in power (or seeking power). Those who will leave me alone, and assholes. I don't care which party they belong to I have one simple test. Are you sticking your nose into my business? If so you are an asshole. If not you will get my vote next election. Gee, that was easy and I never had to listen to single ad or join a political party. Kind of like the Founders intended.
FQ13
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Make a little room on the bench, Tom. And make sure there's enough room for my guns and ammo. Haz and Deepwater should be along shortly. And Haz Jr. is making us all lunch.
To quote a famous American, "...from my cold, dead hands."
Save a couple of spots for me, too.
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I agree with FQ13 just stay out of my way and let me make a living. I'm trying to raise a family and have a happy home. I don't like having my feet kicked out from under me. The powers that be are supposed to represent us no resent us. They act as if we are a burden. I've had a job sence I was 13 and i've paid my taxes sence then as well. I know I'll never see a cent of my SS money. That's just wrong. So the least the gubment could do is stay the f$%k out of our way and do the job they were elected to do.
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robheath, your right,....FQ as well. (That's How It USED To Be),...The 800 pound gorilla in the room is the regulatory, bureaucratic, encroaching, camera's on the corner, tracking your debit/credit purchasing, fees, permits, TAXES, otherwise "red tape",.....that ALLOWS these asshats to get away with everything, and get into your life one way or another.
Never let a crises go to waste,.......Remember?
Katrina, was such a disaster, natural and human caused, that ANY unconstitutional "edict" issued by New Orleans law enforcement, was given a pass. This crap didn't happen in Mississippi, Alabama, Texas, or any other state...
It has gotten to the point where, "just leave me alone" isn't working anymore. The old lady thrown on the floor in New Orleans, over a snub nose .38,....and countless others, were high and dry, provisioned, and THOUGHT they "will just leave me alone"..
Than the stormtroopers came door to door. "No One Will Have Guns In This City".....and WE THE PEOPLE, let them get away with it.
Sure they lost in court. After the fact. BFD!.....How many acts of thievery, burglary, and lawlessness were COMMITTED by the N.O. city workers and cops?
By God,,......It's enough...
That is the point of the OP. It is now not just Katrina...It is an Admin. and gov't that cares NOTHING about you or your "rights".
The gov't is kicking your feet out from under you rob, FQ, and pray, really pray,,,,the next election changes things.
One disaster, natural or otherwise, economics is now into play as well, will leave you with two choices:
Freeman, serf, or slave… the choice will be yours to make. Choose wisely.
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robheath, your right,....FQ as well. (That's How It USED To Be),...The 800 pound gorilla in the room is the regulatory, bureaucratic, encroaching, camera's on the corner, tracking your debit/credit purchasing, fees, permits, TAXES, otherwise "red tape",.....that ALLOWS these asshats to get away with everything, and get into your life one way or another.
Never let a crises go to waste,.......Remember?
Katrina, was such a disaster, natural and human caused, that ANY unconstitutional "edict" issued by New Orleans law enforcement, was given a pass. This crap didn't happen in Mississippi, Alabama, Texas, or any other state...
It has gotten to the point where, "just leave me alone" isn't working anymore. The old lady thrown on the floor in New Orleans, over a snub nose .38,....and countless others, were high and dry, provisioned, and THOUGHT they "will just leave me alone"..
Than the stormtroopers came door to door. "No One Will Have Guns In This City".....and WE THE PEOPLE, let them get away with it.
Sure they lost in court. After the fact. BFD!.....How many acts of thievery, burglary, and lawlessness were COMMITTED by the N.O. city workers and cops?
By God,,......It's enough...
That is the point of the OP. It is now not just Katrina...It is an Admin. and gov't that cares NOTHING about you or your "rights".
The gov't is kicking your feet out from under you rob, FQ, and pray, really pray,,,,the next election changes things.
One disaster, natural or otherwise, economics is now into play as well, will leave you with two choices:
Freeman, serf, or slave… the choice will be yours to make. Choose wisely.
The choice has already been made, the majority, including here, are slaves already who cling to their chains.
Slaves to the house payment, car payment, CC bill , pension plan, and a host of other "stuff" that can be taken away at a politicians whim.
You are owned as surely as if your name was Kunta Kinta.
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Save a spot for me on the bench too.
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Tight bunch...Let's be sure to keep it that way.
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That picture makes me want to throw up.
I have no fear of heights, I'm not afraid of falling.
Hitting the ground at high velocity , that I have issues with. ;D
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Closer look reveals lack of socks....As they were a luxury item, worn on Sundays, or saved for winter.... One of my favorite pics from Life Magazine,....when going to work,....meant a wee bit more...
But they got hazard pay,...about $60 a week.
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That was serious BIG $ for those days when people who could find jobs were making $5 - $10 a week.
During the Depression my Grand father was supervisor in a Woolen mill, and also wrote a column in the local paper.
He made $20 a week.
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That picture makes me want to throw up.
I have no fear of heights, I'm not afraid of falling.
Hitting the ground at high velocity , that I have issues with. ;D
If it comes down to that, I'm going in head first.
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While I respect everyone's veiwpoint expressed here, I do have an issue with "leave me alone". I believe the reason we are in the mess we're in is because most of us were too busy worrying about if our cable reception was satisfactory rather than being concerned what our so called representatives in D.C. and our state capitols were up to. Our failure to be vigilant, not to foreign invasion, but to oversee the goings on in our governments is the issue. As long as we could we could go about "our pursuit of happiness" is one thing, but our negligence to rein in and return the control of this country to its citizens is irresponsible. Perhaps in some Utopia we could all live freely without worry or concerns. As all of you veterans know more than anyone else: Freedom isn't Free and cannot be taken for granted. Just my opinion, I could be wrong. P.S. Thank You All for Your Service.
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That sentiment graywolf, was exactly my previous posts affirmation on the posts regarding "just leave me alone"...
While we may have wanted it to be so, our collective lives here in these United States, certainly have NOT been left alone by local, state, and federal politicians, city/county commissioners, revenue depts. code enforcement, HOA's, mayors, property tax assessors, utility companies, Presidents, etc,....
Now it's time to NOT leave THEM alone to continue to screw up this country.
Go to town hall meetings with your local gov't, write/email state & fed reps. & senators. Pay attention to Judges, all the way down to dog catcher.
If one thinks if I just vote for the other guy, I'll be left alone,.....those days are over......The reset button gets pushed the way intended, by active participation and an informed electorate, or by the fail safe method also provided by our Founding Fathers, when all other methods have failed.