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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: Rastus on August 21, 2011, 06:38:45 AM
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The EPA has some harsh new rules a that will supposedly shut down a lot of older coal fired power plants. Steep new electric rates and rolling blackouts are predicted.
Where is all of that "green phantom" energy we were promised? Billions were put in it...where's the return?
It's a shame that the rules don't take place today before the elections. The sheep will not connect the dots.
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As the former chair of a municipal utility that is part owner of two coal fired plants I have become a prime candidate to overthrow government!
We successfully doubled the size of one plant at Nebraska City, Nebraska in a way that the larger plant is putting out less pollution than the original did while producing less than half the electricity it does now. We were trying to do the same in South Dakota and after our group of utilities spent millions to gain all permits the project was stopped.
At the same time that the clowns, I use that term because that is how they dress when they protest (rainbow afros, blue capes with an orange sun and windmill that looks like a peace symbol, and blue spandex), are using permits to construct power lines as a way of stopping all coal plant expansion and operation. They say we need to develop wind in southwestern Minnesota. Great, we are doing that and it is working well except that most of the ownership is milking the subsidy that is not needed and sending it overseas. These idiots forget three things: 1. you must have baseload power from a reliable constant source to make the power lines work, and intermittent wind does not provide that; 2. Wind does not blow all the time, so you need reliable baseload to carry the demand two thirds of the time; and 3. You still need the power lines to carry the wind turbine power even if you don't want coal.
The Twin Cities metro area is one area fighting this the most, and they are the largest users of power. Does anyone at the Metro Dome understand the meaning of an off switch. That dome glows from interior lighting all night every night, or at least whenever I am up there. Decorative lighting, safety lighting, electronic gadgets - you name it they have it. When I am going to meetings up there I put a note on my steering wheel reminding me to turn on my headlights, because I am guilty of leaving them off. It is so bright you don't need them unless a cop spots you :-[
Until the sheeple realize that you can not both live without power plants and have power we will live with stupid rules like CAP and Trade. The liberals will say it is our social duty to pay the reasonable fees, and the government will tell us that the whip is the only way to teach us. Remember what happened to the Egyptians when the ruled by the whip? The V.P. A. Gore energy plan is just like the Pres. BHO economic plan - it all grows on trees and miraculously appears every spring from ... Oh I don't know where, but it will always be there >:(
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How do we get rid of this commie regime before it destroys our country completely? 2012 election will be too late!!!!!
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if you think thats bad, you should see the lead paint rules. They are a big part of why I got away from actually doing construction.
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How do we get rid of this commie regime before it destroys our country completely? 2012 election will be too late!!!!!
Mao said "All political power comes from the barrel of a gun"
Rope works too.
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if you think thats bad, you should see the lead paint rules. They are a big part of why I got away from actually doing construction.
And don't scrape any of that paint because the asbestos police will come after you too.
The greenies want everyone to live in a commune and sing songs by the drawing that looks like a fire. Eliminating the human race would make most of them very happy.
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actually you pretty much have to treat lead paint like asbesto. The only real diffrence in the containment laws is the ppm in the air before you have to wear addiotnal levels of protective clothing.( aka tyvek suits/fresh air hoods)
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actually you pretty much have to treat lead paint like asbesto. The only real diffrence in the containment laws is the ppm in the air before you have to wear addiotnal levels of protective clothing.( aka tyvek suits/fresh air hoods)
Asbestos was a little easier because we didn't have to take blood tests like we did for employees dealing with lead paint. Additionally, for offshore platforms removing lead paint and having containment was a huge nightmare, easier to cut them off and carry them to shore.
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actually you pretty much have to treat lead paint like asbesto. The only real diffrence in the containment laws is the ppm in the air before you have to wear addiotnal levels of protective clothing.( aka tyvek suits/fresh air hoods)
Enjoy it! That is money in your pocket. I have a friend that is contractor and partners with his brother. They love getting the lead abatement jobs because of what they can charge for comparatively very little extra expense. Like he said "Who cares if it tacks twice as long? It's all billable hours!"
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Enjoy it! That is money in your pocket. I have a friend that is contractor and partners with his brother. They love getting the lead abatement jobs because of what they can charge for comparatively very little extra expense. Like he said "Who cares if it tacks twice as long? It's all billable hours!"
like spending 75k to get your house painted? vs maybe 15k the year before?
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one of the things they are doing here with the carbon tax BS is to go and shut down a couple of coal power stations and trying to get rid of them all
yet they don't want Nukes,
funny as we have all the fuel for them here yet we send it all OS
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yeah, no coal, no nuke, no hydro electric, no wind( kills birds), no CNG, no geo thermal( cuases quakes)
well guess what, that only leaves solar... which at the current time, just does not work. Photo electric is a joke and no one has figured out a good way to costeffectivly do a steam generating system yet.
I think wee need to start farming the greenies for power... you know put them on treadmills like a hampster on a wheel..
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like spending 75k to get your house painted? vs maybe 15k the year before?
Money in your pocket painter boy ;)
Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you react to it.
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yeah, no coal, no nuke, no hydro electric, no wind( kills birds), no CNG, no geo thermal( cuases quakes)
well guess what, that only leaves solar... which at the current time, just does not work. Photo electric is a joke and no one has figured out a good way to costeffectivly do a steam generating system yet.
I think wee need to start farming the greenies for power... you know put them on treadmills like a hampster on a wheel..
Wrong.
Up here they are protesting transmission lines so solar is out as well.
Unless they have a way to ship it by UPS.
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Wrong.
Up here they are protesting transmission lines so solar is out as well.
Unless they have a way to ship it by UPS.
I'm telling you, put the sob on hampster wheels...
M58, very few will pay the extra price. There are basicly 2 types of painters out there, thosw with big project where they must comply with rules and those that are ignoreing them and hoping they don't get cuaght.