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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: wtr100 on September 06, 2011, 08:35:01 AM
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proof positive being a democrat is a form of mental retardation ...
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Are you referring to Biden's latest?
http://www.hapblog.com/2011/09/biden-at-afl-cio-rally-you-are-only.html (http://www.hapblog.com/2011/09/biden-at-afl-cio-rally-you-are-only.html)
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That's because we are not "progressive" ( Communist).
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I saw in today's "Today in history" that one year ago today Obama introduced his $50 Billion Jobs program.
Note that job growth for last month was 0.
And the socialist POS has the nerve to say this ;
http://news.yahoo.com/white-house-wants-quick-jobs-action-congress-163054845.html
NEWARK, New Jersey (AP) — The White House says President Barack Obama hopes that when Congress returns this coming week from its summer break, lawmakers will share his sense of urgency in taking steps to create jobs and help the economy.
Obama plans a prime-time speech to Congress on Thursday night and is expected to propose a mix of tax credits and public works spending.
Spokesman Jay Carney says Obama will offer plans that historically have attracted bipartisan support and will, if passed, "positively affect growth and job creation."
Carney tells reporters traveling with Obama on a tour of flood damage in New Jersey that "we are at a time in our economy when we need to do something."
Carney says Obama will press lawmakers to act quickly on his ideas.
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I saw in today's "Today in history" that one year ago today Obama introduced his $50 Billion Jobs program.
Note that job growth for last month was 0.
And the socialist POS has the nerve to say this ;
http://news.yahoo.com/white-house-wants-quick-jobs-action-congress-163054845.html
NEWARK, New Jersey (AP) — The White House says President Barack Obama hopes that when Congress returns this coming week from its summer break, lawmakers will share his sense of urgency in taking steps to create jobs and help the economy.
Obama plans a prime-time speech to Congress on Thursday night and is expected to propose a mix of tax credits and public works spending.
Spokesman Jay Carney says Obama will offer plans that historically have attracted bipartisan support and will, if passed, "positively affect growth and job creation."
Carney tells reporters traveling with Obama on a tour of flood damage in New Jersey that "we are at a time in our economy when we need to do something."
Carney says Obama will press lawmakers to act quickly on his ideas.
I find it interesting that now, with the election just over a year away, Obama finds an urgency to do something to create jobs and help the economy, yet for the first 2-1/2 years of his presidency he was doing his damndest to destroy both.
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I am a Democrat and a gun owner(in fact many)/shooter/reloader and etc...have been for years! That being said, I vote for whom I feel is the best candidate. Yes there are some pro-gun Dem candidates and dems.
FWIW
Richard
PS: Being a Democrat does not mean I am retarded! I believe ones political career/leanings reflect that (Democrat or Republican or whatever)!
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I am a Democrat and a gun owner(in fact many)/shooter/reloader and etc...have been for years! That being said, I vote for whom I feel is the best candidate. Yes there are some pro-gun Dem candidates and dems.
FWIW
Richard
PS: Being a Democrat does not mean I am retarded! I believe ones political career/leanings reflect that (Democrat or Republican or whatever)!
You obviously know nothing about the Dem party platform.
Or else you know nothing about history, or economics.
http://www.democrats.org/issues
http://www.democrats.org/issues/immigration_reform
For years, Democrats have attempted to work across the aisle to pass comprehensive legislation. We need to bring the 11 million undocumented immigrants out of the shadows and create a legal, fair, and economically viable system that holds both immigrants and employers accountable and finally to ensure that our borders are safe.
Amnesty
http://www.democrats.org/issues/civil_rights
Strengthening the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division to better protect voting rights;
Enacting the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, which includes measures prohibiting discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity;
Repealing “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” in a sensible way that strengthens our armed forces and our national security;
Ensuring civil unions and equal federal rights for LGBT couples, as well as fully repealing the Defense of Marriage Act;
Ending racial, ethnic, and religious profiling; and
Building a fair and more equitable criminal justice system that provides non-violent offenders a second chance at a rehabilitated life.
Putting robbers and thieves back on the street
http://thepeoplescube.com/current-truth/communists-sue-democratic-party-for-stealing-platform-t5149.html
In a surprise move, the CPUSA (Communist Party USA) has announced a lawsuit against the Democratic Party and its leadership for the alleged theft of intellectual property. The plaintiffs claim that the entire so-called "new" Democratic agenda is, in fact, the product of a decades-long, painstaking campaign by CPUSA theorists, agitators, and underground subversive cells - which makes it the intellectual property of the Communist Party USA, protected by American copyright laws. "They stole our entire platform, rebranded it 'progressive', and claimed it as their own," declared a CPUSA spokesperson at a press conference in San Francisco. "And we communists say, not so fast! Not in this country anyway, where we still have property rights and the rule of law, thank God! Actually, let me rephrase that..."
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The Communist Party representative explained that government ownership of the auto and financial industries, redistribution of wealth, and free rationed healthcare have always been among the glorious CPUSA objectives: "We held on to these goals through all the difficult years of factional infighting, purges, denunciations, and heroic espionage on behalf of the Soviet intelligence services.
"This may seem like a foreign idea to you, but we sacrificed everything for it - our friends, our neighbors, and our nation. We suffered from all kinds of ulcers and split personality disorders by blindly following Stalin's directives. We risked our chances of promotion within US government agencies by dutifully advancing Soviet foreign policy. And for what? So that some spoiled Democrats could ride on our backs to power while throwing us crumbs in the form of minor cabinet appointments?
"It's just like taking someone else's hard-earned income and redistributing it! ... Never mind, bad example... It's like infiltrating a respectable organization and taking over its management while engaging in subversive propaganda and the rewriting of history... Whoops, bad example again... It's like being devoid of moral standards and rejecting all the norms and values of Judeo-Christian civilization... No, that was totally inappropriate. Scratch that...
"It's time we got our fair share of credit from the current administration. As a gesture of good will, we would be pleased to accept the credit in the form of stimulus checks, subsidies, and loan guarantees for our members. If not now, when?"
CPUSA lawyers presented documents to the press showing that the Democratic platform of 2010, almost-line-for-line, reiterates the CPUSA platform of 1963. As the lead attorney for the plaintiffs pointed out, even a casual reading shows that while the rhetoric occasionally varies, the underlying policies are nearly identical.
"If the public knew that all the Democrat ideas are ours, we'd have more high-paying jobs in the Obama administration," remarked the CPUSA spokesperson. "While all our members can't be czars, we should at least get royalties. We can't survive on government handouts alone, not yet anyway."
This announcement seems to overturn past communist policy favoring the liquidation of czars and royalty.
The Democratic National Committee has declined to issue an official comment on the lawsuit, but a high-ranking White House official stated privately that this development is the result of an historically inevitable "convergence of opposites" - a philosophical concept outlined by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels - whereby the American public catches up with the glorious promise of communism, while the CPUSA becomes so American that it becomes embroiled in litigation. "Don't quote me on this," he added, "but Barack and I believe we can easily reconcile whatever minor differences we have with the CPUSA, and work together to prepare Americans for the final march, in well-organized and neat columns, towards our radiant progressive future."
http://www.csus.edu/org/democrat/beliefs/index.html
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0708/Napolitano_to_lead_DNC_Platform_Drafting_Committee.html
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=72345
http://local-warming.blogspot.com/2008/09/democratic-party-platform-on-climate.html
http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-seattle/new-dnc-chief-reaffirms-hers-is-the-party-of-gun-control
http://visiontoamerica.org/v2a/story/dnc-chief-wants-to-screen-all-gun-sales.html
http://uselectionsnews.com/incoming-dnc-chair-supports-new-gun-control-legislation-contributornetwork.html
Pay special attention to the last 3 links !
FWIW
Richard
PS: Being a Democrat does not mean I am retarded!
You want to rethink that ?
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lighten up Francis
I am a Democrat and a gun owner(in fact many)/shooter/reloader and etc...have been for years! That being said, I vote for whom I feel is the best candidate. Yes there are some pro-gun Dem candidates and dems.
FWIW
Richard
PS: Being a Democrat does not mean I am retarded! I believe ones political career/leanings reflect that (Democrat or Republican or whatever)!
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In a surprise move, the CPUSA (Communist Party USA) has announced a lawsuit against the Democratic Party and its leadership for the alleged theft of intellectual property.
That is a very interesting posture for the CPUSA. I have not verified that report, but it is so damaging to the DNC that, while it looks very true, I have to wonder.
If it is true, the CPUSA is more concerned with getting credit for something than seeing their "glorious objectives" realized.
Seems the power, control and other rewards are move valuable to them than making the USA a "paradise".
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That is a very interesting posture for the CPUSA. I have not verified that report, but it is so damaging to the DNC that, while it looks very true, I have to wonder.
If it is true, the CPUSA is more concerned with getting credit for something than seeing their "glorious objectives" realized.
Seems the power, control and other rewards are move valuable to them than making the USA a "paradise".
Ummmm, DUH! These clowns think there will actually be a place for them in a one world government. They have no idea that they will be crushed under the boot of a REAL socialist dictator.
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I am a Democrat and a gun owner(in fact many)/shooter/reloader and etc...have been for years! That being said, I vote for whom I feel is the best candidate. Yes there are some pro-gun Dem candidates and dems.
FWIW
Richard
PS: Being a Democrat does not mean I am retarded! I believe ones political career/leanings reflect that (Democrat or Republican or whatever)!
lighten up Francis
No, any body who claims to support gun rights, the military, Christianity, small government, fiscal responsibility, the Constitution, or any of the other things that took America from colonies to the moon and then votes Dem should be sensitive about criticism.
By the way, have you ever noticed that every single "peace loving, anti military, Dem President has found need for the military ?
Wilson, WWI, FDR WWII, Truman, Korea, Kennedy/ Johnson, Vietnam, Carter, the fiasco at Desert One, Clinton bombed somebody every time he had a hearing about Lewinsky, now BHO takes his Wal Mart Peace prize and waves it over Libya.
Don't hear much about the dozens of civilians they blew up protecting them, do you.
He'll probably go after Syria next.
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No, any body who claims to support gun rights, the military, Christianity, small government, fiscal responsibility, the Constitution, or any of the other things that took America from colonies to the moon and then votes Dem should be sensitive about criticism.
By the way, have you ever noticed that every single "peace loving, anti military, Dem President has found need for the military ?
Wilson, WWI, FDR WWII, Truman, Korea, Kennedy/ Johnson, Vietnam, Carter, the fiasco at Desert One, Clinton bombed somebody every time he had a hearing about Lewinsky, now BHO takes his Wal Mart Peace prize and waves it over Libya.
Don't hear much about the dozens of civilians they blew up protecting them, do you.
He'll probably go after Syria Israel next.
Remember who he views as the enemy.
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I'm not sensitive by any stretch of the imagination! I don't need to rethink "being retarded"! I am not retarded because I have a D after my name at the BOE. Maybe I'm a closet R who is too lazy to go the the BOE and change! There are some...not a lot, of good Dem politicians. I've lived thru a lot of crap perpitrated (sp) by both D and R. I am not proud of what the Dems have done and continue to do. Remember there are a lot of R politicians who have screwed us in many ways also. My life has been pure HELL in the work place because I am a Dem. so the Republicans are not all that lilly white in my eyes either. By the way, I didn't vote for BO and wasn't of age to vote for some of the others you mentioned.
FWIW
Richard
PS: If my being a Dem is wrong drum me out of the DRTV Rangers!
PPS: I'll match my voting record on NRA rated A candidates against any one! R or D...FWIW
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I'm not sensitive by any stretch of the imagination! I don't need to rethink "being retarded"! I am not retarded because I have a D after my name at the BOE. Maybe I'm a closet R who is too lazy to go the the BOE and change! There are some...not a lot, of good Dem politicians. I've lived thru a lot of crap perpitrated (sp) by both D and R. I am not proud of what the Dems have done and continue to do. Remember there are a lot of R politicians who have screwed us in many ways also. My life has been pure HELL in the work place because I am a Dem. so the Republicans are not all that lilly white in my eyes either. By the way, I didn't vote for BO and wasn't of age to vote for some of the others you mentioned.
FWIW
Richard
PS: If my being a Dem is wrong drum me out of the DRTV Rangers!
Not to change the subject, but how do you get INTO the DRTV Rangers? Inquiring minds want to know (at least 1).
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Not to change the subject, but how do you get INTO the DRTV Rangers? Inquiring minds want to know (at least 1).
+1
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Let's see, we have been called: Racists, terrorists, hobbits, sons of bitches, and now barbarians. And WE are the ones footing the bill?
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I am not proud of what the Dems have done and continue to do. Remember there are a lot of R politicians who have screwed us in many ways also.
PS: If my being a Dem is wrong drum me out of the DRTV Rangers!
If the boot is on your neck, it doesn't matter if its the left one or the right one.
I've only been a member since 2007, what exactly is a DRTV Ranger anyway?
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If the boot is on your neck, it doesn't matter if its the left one or the right one.
I've only been a member since 2007, what exactly is a DRTV Ranger anyway?
THAT is a great quote. Think I'll purloin it.
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DRTV Rangers are a group of members who over the years have done things, either as individuals, or as a group, to benefit the forum and/or help other members in some notable way.
Back to the topic, it is a historical, and documented fact that if you vote R you may get an asshole, or a RINO like McCain.
If you vote D, no matter what the candidate says, you are voting to support gun control, bigger govt,weakened defense, higher taxes, race baiting, socialism and union thuggery.
The only difference between the Democrats and the Communists is the Dems don't charge dues.
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Remember, I said I voted for the best candidate not D's across the board!
Richard
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Even if Jesus came back as a Dem, he would be kissing the parties ass for campaign funds that means he is NOT the better candidate.
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Another barbarian here! Never mind the gates!
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Barbarian hobbit. Viking Kitten.
Whatever, they just better remember this "Son of a Bitch" has a 12 ga. and friends.
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Even if Jesus came back as a Dem, he would be kissing the parties ass for campaign funds that means he is NOT the better candidate.
tom, that is just so wrong in many ways!
JMHO
Richard
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If Jesus, or God in any form, got into politics we would have an Autocracy.....any form of self government would not be tolerated.
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If Jesus, or God in any form, got into politics we would have an Autocracy.....any form of self government would not be tolerated.
the real God Jesus doesn't / didn't get directly involved in something as unimportant as earthly politics - it's the fake gods like islam and lds and socialism that do that
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the real God Jesus doesn't / didn't get directly involved in something as unimportant as earthly politics - it's the fake gods like islam and lds and socialism that do that
The God of Islam is the God of Abraham, as is the Christian/Jewish God
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The God of Islam is the God of Abraham, as is the Christian/Jewish God
I disagree the god of islam is clearly not the Lord Jesus
I'll speak no more here
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the real God Jesus doesn't / didn't get directly involved in something as unimportant as earthly politics - it's the fake gods like islam and lds and socialism that do that
:o Haven't read your bible very closely have you .
Jesus was a social revolutionary who's words and actions challenged the leading authorities of his people.
That was why Pilate felt it so important that the Jews execute him rather than Rome doing it. He did not want to have to deal with a rebellion.
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I disagree the god of islam is clearly not the Lord Jesus
I'll speak no more here
Oh, there is no doubt they are different. They started out the same and, over the years, the different Religions adopted different interpretations for God.
The Jewish God is clearly not the Lord Jesus....but God The Father is the same.
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Ok, I'm gonna hijack the thread for a moment, but I just had a flash that I wanted to run by you guys.
I got thinking about James Hoffa's statement that we need to take the son's of bitches out. Obama refuses to refute the statement because he is so beholden to the unions. The TEAMSTERS UNION. Let that sink in for a moment.
Basically what this says to me is that our country is now being run by the mob, and Obama is their front man. And here all this time I was thinking it was Soros pulling the strings. ::)
Ok hijack over.
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Ok, I'm gonna hijack the thread for a moment, but I just had a flash that I wanted to run by you guys.
What an appropriate term when talking about the teamsters.
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Both, Soros and his socialist and elitist co-conspirators are using the socialist and Mafia dominated Union thugs to advance their objectives.
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Ok, I'm gonna hijack the thread for a moment, but I just had a flash that I wanted to run by you guys.
I got thinking about James Hoffa's statement that we need to take the son's of bitches out. Obama refuses to refute the statement because he is so beholden to the unions. The TEAMSTERS UNION. Let that sink in for a moment.
Basically what this says to me is that our country is now being run by the mob, and Obama is their front man. And here all this time I was thinking it was Soros pulling the strings. ::)
Ok hijack over.
yeah...you need a program to tell which puppet is pulling what other puppet's strings.
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If you wanted to do the research you could follow the connections of mentors, friends, and influence from Capone to Blagoyavitch and Obama.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor_of_Illinois
Six Illinois governors have been charged with crimes during or after their governorships; four were convicted, and of those, one (Blagojevich) was first impeached and removed from office.
[edit] Acquitted
Len Small (R), governor from 1921 to 1929, was indicted in office for corruption. He was acquitted; thereafter, eight of the jurors received state jobs. Among his defense lawyers was former governor Joseph Fifer, who asserted, in pre-trial hearings, that the governorship has the divine right of kings.[3]
William G. Stratton (R), governor from 1953 to 1961, was acquitted of tax evasion in 1965.[citation needed]
[edit] Convicted
Otto Kerner, Jr. (D), Stratton's successor and later a judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit, was convicted of 17 counts of bribery, conspiracy, perjury, and income-tax charges from his time as governor,[4] and received 3 years in prison and a $50,000 fine in 1973. He was prosecuted by future Illinois governor Jim Thompson.[5]
Dan Walker (D), governor from 1973 to 1977, was later involved in the Savings and loan scandals and convicted of federal crimes related to fraudulent loans to himself from his own First American Savings & Loan Association of Oak Brook. He was sentenced to seven years in prison with five years of probation following his release.[6]
George H. Ryan (R), governor from 1999 to 2003, was convicted in 2006 of corruption related to his time as Illinois Secretary of State in the 1990s, when commercial driver's licenses were issued to unqualified truckers in exchange for bribes, and one of the truckers was involved in a crash that killed six children. Former governor Jim Thompson, whom Ryan had served under as Lieutenant Governor of Illinois in the 1980s, was manager of the law firm that defended Ryan.[citation needed] Ryan is slated for release in 2013.
Rod Blagojevich (D), governor from 2003 to 2009, and Ryan's successor, was impeached and removed from office by the Illinois General Assembly in a unanimous vote in January 2009 after being tied to multiple "pay to play" schemes.[1] In August 2010, he was convicted of lying to the FBI in connection with the investigation, but the jury deadlocked on 23 other charges.[7] Blagojevich was retried on 20 counts from his 2010 trial and on June 27, 2011, Blagojevich was convicted on 17 counts of fraud, acquitted on one count and the jury was hung on two.
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:o Haven't read your bible very closely have you .
Jesus was a social revolutionary who's words and actions challenged the leading authorities of his people.
That was why Pilate felt it so important that the Jews execute him rather than Rome doing it. He did not want to have to deal with a rebellion.
Apparently, neither have you!! ;D
Pilate did not want anything to do with this trial, considered it a local affair only. There were a couple of times in the Bible that he stated to the crowds that he could find nothing wrong with Jesus and had no grounds to execute Him.
It was only after being pressed by the Pharisees - whom Jesus had personally called hypocrites to their faces - and the crowd was getting rowdy, that Pilate relented and ordered the execution. The Jews - under Roman law - had no authority to execute criminals, only a Roman governor could order an execution.
The Romans usually allowed any religious practice, including some fairly bizarre ones, but even hint at a revolt or riot, and all bets were off. Like you said, this was Pilate avoiding a riot in an already touchy province that would not take much to devolve into a revolt.
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Otto Kerner, Jr. (D), Stratton's successor and later a judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit, was convicted of 17 counts of bribery, conspiracy, perjury, and income-tax charges from his time as governor,[4] and received 3 years in prison and a $50,000 fine in 1973. He was prosecuted by future Illinois governor Jim Thompson.[5]
As a former denizen of the cesspool that is Illinois, Thompson should also be on this list of convicted former Governors. He was blessed at leaving office having packed the State .gov with his cronies and also under Repubby Presidents, so no Federal beefs.
IMHO he was a liar and a cheat, constantly caught using state property for personal gain - like the infamous photo of him directing State Troopers carrying the precious antiques (personal) he had just bought on a junket somewhere - using the State plane as well to bring them to Springfield. Just a minor example of egregious wrongs.
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It's Chicago, Party doesn't matter, ask Rahm, who is listed as "unaffiliated" the Mayor that Dem Capone bought, "Big Bill" Thompson, was an R.
Unaffiliated ? What a freaking joke.