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Member Section => NFA Items => Topic started by: blackwolfe on September 10, 2011, 09:59:01 PM
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Michigan's attorney general recently made a ruling that essentially leagalized suppressors in Michigan. Probably just wishful thinking on my part, but I'm entertaining the idea of getting one if I ever win the lotto or something and end up with surplus funds.
Does anyone here use one? I was wondering if I got one for .223 how it would work for .22. Any recommendations on brands or types? I know almost nothing about them.
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Others will speak up soon, but while I don't have any as of yet, I've been researching them. I believe you can use a 223 for a 22, but the suppression is not as good. They also have people using 9mm & 4 S&W use a 45 suppressor, but with the same results. Check out the below links for more info. One of the biggest online sellers is http://www.major-malfunction.com/ (http://www.major-malfunction.com/)
http://silencerresearch.com/ (http://silencerresearch.com/)
http://silencerforum.com/ (http://silencerforum.com/)
http://silencertalk.com/ (http://silencertalk.com/)
Good Luck and enjoy ;D
Brian
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Yup. One for a 223 will work for a 22. I will swap to my Ciener 22LR conversion in my AR and use an M4-2000. There are others that are lighter and don't have the quick connect which would be cool but the .223 cans bring what I think is too much weight to a rimfire. The weight may not bother you though.
I'd go to www.advanced-armament.com (http://www.advanced-armament.com) or www.gem-tech.com (http://www.gem-tech.com) to start looking. Tactical Solutions makes them...heck a lot of people make them. I never tried to find one for dual duty .223 to 22LR. I like the purpose build rimfire supressors because they are light...like AAC Pilot for the .22LR....but prefer a model that can be broken down and cleaned.
Bryon who owns Major Malfunction is a great guy and has a nice website..I got a 45 EVO can from him.
Tactical Solution is supposed to be coming out with one of their lightweight 22LR barrels integrally suppresed and that can be cleaned...that I would really like to have. The AAC Cloak is integrally suppressed but is heavy.
Also take a look at http://sandhsuppressors.com/ (http://sandhsuppressors.com/) for some really good integral supressors...check out the Ruger M77 in 44 mag that I will attest is 1/2 as loud as a pellet gun when using subsonic ammo.
And yes, as above, I have used my 45 can for my 9MM's.
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Michigan's attorney general recently made a ruling that essentially leagalized suppressors in Michigan. Probably just wishful thinking on my part, but I'm entertaining the idea of getting one if I ever win the lotto or something and end up with surplus funds.
Does anyone here use one? I was wondering if I got one for .223 how it would work for .22. Any recommendations on brands or types? I know almost nothing about them.
Doesn't take the lotto to get a 'can' especially if you start with a .22 LR capable first. I have a Tactical Innovations TAC-65 http://bit.ly/nSDfvH (http://bit.ly/nSDfvH) for my .22LR. It's way fun. I can't compare it with other cans as this is the only .22LR one that I've owned but mine basically lets you hear the action cycle and bullet strike and no more. Phhhht, bang.
The .223 suppressor would work for .22LR but there will be no way to remove the lead that builds up in the suppressor after shooting many .22LR rounds thus eventually decreasing the efficiently of the .223 suppressor. I would by a .22LR specific suppressor as they're able to be disassembled for cleaning plus they're only about $250 vs. $600+ for center fire round capable suppressors.
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What's the ATF tax ?
Isn't that like another $200 ?
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I think it is $300, but I haven't talked to my gunsmith that makes them for quite a while, and my memory is like a rusty sieve :-\
I believe Mr. Rastus will have the answer when he pops back in.
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Everything that I have read it is still $200.
Costly toys but not as bad as thermal night vision stuff...anybody wanna buy a well used kidney?
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It's $200 if you get it through a dealer in your state. If you buy from an individual in another state I believe it is $200 x 2. Once to transfer to a dealer in that state to send to a dealer in your and another $200 for the dealer in your state to transfer it to you. At least I think that is how it works.
By the way, Thanks for all the help. Have been checking some of the links in the previous post.
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$200 is what I paid. As I understand that was fixed under the 1934 NFA.
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What Rastus said.
I have 2 cans. I love them both, though I don't use them as often as I thought I would. Mostly because they are a pain to clean. Definitely a fun toy. Both of mine are Gemtech. I have never had a problem with either of them.
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What Rastus said.
I have 2 cans. I love them both, though I don't use them as often as I thought I would. Mostly because they are a pain to clean. Definitely a fun toy. Both of mine are Gemtech. I have never had a problem with either of them.
I've not shot my Yankee Hill Machine Phantom 7.62 can (it's the quick disconnect model) yet on my .308 Savage as I need to get a scope mount and rings for the rifle. I have tried a few shots with it on my .223. It's certainly not silent but I can definitely shoot without earmuffs.
I use my .22LR suppressor almost every time I go shooting. I put on my Buckmark and AR conversion upper. Supposedly one can get a desktop sandblasting setup from Harbor Freight that makes cleaning the lead off a breeze. I've not done that yet but cleaning them can be a bit of a pain but I probably had 1000 rds. through mine before it was cleaned. Sure there was some lead build up but nothing horrendous.
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I've not shot my Yankee Hill Machine Phantom 7.62 can (it's the quick disconnect model) yet on my .308 Savage as I need to get a scope mount and rings for the rifle. I have tried a few shots with it on my .223. It's certainly not silent but I can definitely shoot without earmuffs.
I use my .22LR suppressor almost every time I go shooting. I put on my Buckmark and AR conversion upper. Supposedly one can get a desktop sandblasting setup from Harbor Freight that makes cleaning the lead off a breeze. I've not done that yet but cleaning them can be a bit of a pain but I probably had 1000 rds. through mine before it was cleaned. Sure there was some lead build up but nothing horrendous.
Sandblasting to clean? I never even considered that. I would worry about damaging a part. Have you done this with your suppressor before? If so, how did it go?
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Nope, as mentioned, I've not tried it. Apparently there are different media that you can use that have abrasion characteristics so you can find one that doesn't damage the baffles. I forget where I heard this at, maybe silencertalk.com.
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Something to look into. Thanks for the input.
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Nope, as mentioned, I've not tried it. Apparently there are different media that you can use that have abrasion characteristics so you can find one that doesn't damage the baffles. I forget where I heard this at, maybe silencertalk.com.
That's correct,the finest I have used was a white that was almost dust. they make even finer grit than that.
I would however put masking tape over any threads.
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On one of the previously mentioned silencer sites I think I read that someone was using a bead blaster, others were using ultrasonic cleaners.
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the dishwasher... just not when the wife is home...
just trust me on that, both parts. ;D