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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: tombogan03884 on September 26, 2011, 11:40:35 AM
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Any one else ever heard of this ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21
http://www.ask.com/web?l=dis&o=15492&qsrc=2873&q=UN%20Agenda%2021%20%20Canada%20free%20press
The second link is a list of articles in the Canada Free Press which has previously seemed to be fairly accurate.
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Why yes, Executive order signed by BHO in June.
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=16719.0
All part of his master plan.....
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1-20-2013 can't get here fast enough.
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1-20-2013 can't get here fast enough.
That date no longer matters. With all of the EOs that bho and his staff have been grinding out, but especially the "regulations" his minions in all of the Executive branch have been imposing - like limiting farm dust, like banning some asthma inhalers cuz they might hurt the ozone layer, etc. - this country is really screwed. I'm thinking Humpty Dumpty screwed. After the great fall Humpty Dumpty screwed.
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That date no longer matters. With all of the EOs that bho and his staff have been grinding out, but especially the "regulations" his minions in all of the Executive branch have been imposing - like limiting farm dust, like banning some asthma inhalers cuz they might hurt the ozone layer, etc. - this country is really screwed. I'm thinking Humpty Dumpty screwed. After the great fall Humpty Dumpty screwed.
While you haven't been one of the ones who accuse me of being extreme for saying armed insurrection, in other words killing liberals, is the only way the problems of this country can effectively be solved, I will take this opportunity to ask, "Are they blind, stupid, or just to gutless to face the truth ?
This is the same as our conflict with the Moslem world, they openly declared war on us 30 years before we admitted there was a problem.
And it took 3000 dead to get America to wake up to that.
What's it going to take to wake these complacent fools to the war the dems have been waging on America for 100 years ?
Oops, gotta go, dancing with the stars is coming on !
F*cking idiots.
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While you haven't been one of the ones who accuse me of being extreme for saying armed insurrection, in other words killing liberals, is the only way the problems of this country can effectively be solved, I will take this opportunity to ask, "Are they blind, stupid, or just to gutless to face the truth ?
This is the same as our conflict with the Moslem world, they openly declared war on us 30 years before we admitted there was a problem.
And it took 3000 dead to get America to wake up to that.
What's it going to take to wake these complacent fools to the war the dems have been waging on America for 100 years ?
Oops, gotta go, dancing with the stars is coming on !
F*cking idiots.
I think you will like the post I did on the Florida Mayors thread http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=17618.msg225950#msg225950 (http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=17618.msg225950#msg225950)! ;D
For some years I have believed the fix was in, we were screwed and nothing - and I mean nothing - will fix it. Not a true-blood Constitutionalist in the WH, nothing. I was the one who pointed out that every damn US President since Ike has worked publicly or behind the scenes to sell this country out. I still think JFK was whacked because he was trying to stop it in meaningful ways, back when the POTUS could actually have an effect. Since then, sell-out.
I'm not even sure the 3%-ers can help now, since so many of our LEOs have proven themselves more than willing to violate anyone who - in Cartman's immortal words - did not respect their "Authoritaaaahhh!!!!"
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It's why Crusader Rabbit weeps for the country.
I don't blame him.
But most of the current population deserve exactly whats coming.
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Any one else ever heard of this ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21
http://www.ask.com/web?l=dis&o=15492&qsrc=2873&q=UN%20Agenda%2021%20%20Canada%20free%20press
The second link is a list of articles in the Canada Free Press which has previously seemed to be fairly accurate.
Funny.... when I try the links for Canada Free Press, I get the message "System Offline The Site is Offline"
Hmmm, maybe they got too close to the truth..... (insert X-Files theme music here)
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I've visited the site before, but when I just checked I got the same message.
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Got this this AM
http://blog.heritage.org/2011/12/05/morning-bell-agenda-21-and-the-threat-in-your-backyard/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=Morning%2BBell
Agenda 21 and the Threat in Your Backyard
Ready to trade in your car for a bike, or maybe a subway instead? Interested in fewer choices for your home, paying more for housing, and being crammed into a denser neighborhood? You can have all this and more if radical environmentalists and "smart growth" advocates have their way and local, state, and the federal government impose the policies set forth in the United Nations' Agenda 21.
You might have heard of this nefarious-sounding policy in a recent Republican presidential debate, but even if you haven't, here's some background information: Agenda 21 is a voluntary plan adopted at the 1992 United Nations Conference on Environment and Development. It calls on governments to intervene and regulate nearly every potential impact that human activity could have on the environment. The end goal? Getting governments to "rethink economic development and find ways to halt the destruction of irreplaceable natural resources and pollution of the planet."
As adopted, Agenda 21 was described as "a comprehensive plan of action to be taken globally, nationally and locally by organizations of the United Nations System, Governments, and Major Groups in every area in which human impacts on the environment." That includes hundreds of specific goals and strategies that national and local governments are encouraged to adopt. And that translates into restrictive zoning policies that are aimed at deterring suburban growth. Ultimately, they suppress housing supply and drive up home prices, in turn imposing unnecessary costs, especially on middle- and lower-income households. These policies contributed to and aggravate the real estate bubble by putting inflationary pressures on housing prices.
But here's the catch: Nothing about Agenda 21 is binding, and it's not a threat in and of itself. Instead, the threat Americans need to be concerned about is the one that lies in their own backyard. In a new paper, "Focus on Agenda 21 Should Not Divert Attention from Homegrown Anti-Growth Policies," Wendell Cox, Ronald Utt, Brett Schaefer explain:
Opponents of Agenda 21 should not be distracted from the more tangible manifestation of the smart-growth principles outlined in that document. If they focus excessively on Agenda 21, it is much more likely that homegrown smart-growth policies that date to the early 1970s and undermine the quality of life, personal choice, and property rights in American communities will be implemented by local, state, and federal authorities at the behest of environmental groups and other vested interests.
In the United States, smart-growth policies started in California and Oregon but then spread around the country to "deter suburban growth for all but the well-to-do," as Cox, Utt, and Schaefer explain. They also write that those policies were not without detrimental impact:
As they became more prevalent and restrictive, their impact on housing prices and construction likewise expanded. An explosion of exclusionary zoning throughout the U.S. encouraged many communities to adopt zoning policies to ensure that they maintained a certain demographic 'profile.' Such zoning limited real estate development to higher-cost homes in order to 'price out' moderate-income households, which included a disproportionate share of minorities.
Where do these home-grown smart-growth policies stand today? The Obama Administration has embraced them while also increasing environmental regulations and restrictions on the use of natural resources. But the White House isn't the only one behind the smart-growth movement. Local and state officials, along with interest groups, are promoting the policies at all levels of government.
And that's where smart growth must also be thwarted. It's not just a matter of standing against the implementation of Agenda 21 at the national level; it's also about protecting our own backyards against the home-grown threat.
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And we have just heard from the realtors board and the contractors. "Stop zoning! Its a UN conspiracy!" ::) You are being played for a fool here Tom. I live Florida, land of suburban sprawl, endless strip malls, no public transportation worthy of the name, and hideous traffic compounded by never ending road construction. And did I mention that I, not the developer pays for that? This is on top of watching every green space turned into a strip mall or subdivision. So I do think zoning, or smart growth or whatever else you want to call anti-sprawkl measures are a good idea. Developers don't. They want to pass their negative externalities (like the need for more roads or schools) onto the taxpayer. I think they should suck them up. They will do everything they have to to avoid paying their own bills, but screaming about a UN threat to our freedom and you thinking this is a call to arms? Dude, you are being played for a fool by TAB and everyone else in building trades. Now that said. zoning can be over done and it does cause problems when idiots are in charge, but as a basic principle anti-sprawl zoning combined with public transport makes sense economically, environmentally and as a matter of national security.
FQ13
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Tell it to Pathfinder and the others who live in agricultural area's.
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Tell it to Pathfinder and the others who live in agricultural area's.
Thats not what the article you quoted referenced. I agree on the farm dust thing being BS. But, as your piece noted this Agenda 21 is voluntary, and what the authors are worried about is making sure that developers can pass costs onto the tax payers without being restricted by zoning regulations which have f@ck al to do with the UN, but they will threaten you with black helicopters if it helps them. >:(
FQ13
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This lovely organization is a part of this problem, I subscribe to their newsletter to keep up with their activities.
http://www.iclei.org/
ICLEI - Local Governments for Sustainability is an association of over 1220 local government Members who are committed to sustainable development. Our Members come from 70 different countries and represent more than 569,885,000 people.
ICLEI is an international association of local governments as well as national and regional local government organizations who have made a commitment to sustainable development.
ICLEI provides technical consulting, training, and information services to build capacity, share knowledge, and support local government in the implementation of sustainable development at the local level. Our basic premise is that locally designed initiatives can provide an effective and cost-efficient way to achieve local, national, and global sustainability objectives.