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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Hazcat on October 10, 2011, 05:55:11 PM
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Sheriff: Gun in Nevada IHOP shooting was illegally altered to fully automatic machine gun
By Associated Press, Published: October 5
RENO, Nev. — The assault rifle used in a deadly rampage at a Nevada IHOP a month ago was a Chinese-made version of an AK-47 that had been converted into an illegal, fully automatic weapon, investigators said Wednesday as they provided new details about the firepower possessed by the mentally unstable gunman.
Eduardo Sencion fired 60 rounds from the Norinco Mak 90 sport rifle-turned-machine gun at the Carson City IHOP on Sept. 6, killing four people and injuring seven others, Carson City Sheriff Kenny Furlong said. He had another 450 rounds of AK-47 ammunition in his van along with two other weapons — a legal, semi-automatic AK-47 and a Glock handgun, investigators said. Deputies also found a .38-caliber revolver near his body that he used to kill himself, the sheriff said.
Federal agents with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives determined the illegal rifle used in the killings last was sold by a private party in California to an unknown buyer more than five years ago, Furlong said.
Authorities have been unable to locate any record of the gun since then, but the sheriff said his deputies continue to investigate the source of the weapon alterations and “the identities of those who owned the weapon previous to Sencion.”
“According to ATF, it looked like a pretty good job,” Carson City Undersheriff Steve Albertsen said of the fully-automatic modification. He acknowledged it will be difficult to track the ownership. Background checks are not required for private party sales in Nevada, he said.
“We want to know who sold our suspect the gun, but we may not ever know,” Albertsen said.
“A private party doesn’t have to register unless it is fully automatic and ATF doesn’t know when it was converted,” he said.
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More at link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/sheriff-gun-in-deadly-nevada-ihop-shooting-was-illegally-altered/2011/10/05/gIQAeyGWNL_story.html
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Sadly, if a sick and murderous BG wants to modify an otherwise "legal" weapon to FA, it's not that hard....It's the criminal intent, and a one way killing spree this guy was on.
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“According to ATF, it looked like a pretty good job,” Carson City Undersheriff Steve Albertsen said of the fully-automatic modification. He acknowledged it will be difficult to track the ownership. Background checks are not required for private party sales in Nevada, he said.
“We want to know who sold our suspect the gun, but we may not ever know,” Albertsen said.
This is the fuel the Brady Bunch uses regarding private sales. It's the same logic they used to try to sue gun makers for "deaths by gunfire".
Oh and it was sold in Ca?
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Sadly, if a sick and murderous BG wants to modify an otherwise "legal" weapon to FA, it's not that hard....It's the criminal intent, and a one way killing spree this guy was on.
FTA
“According to ATF, it looked like a pretty good job,” Carson City Undersheriff Steve Albertsen said of the fully-automatic modification. He acknowledged it will be difficult to track the ownership. Background checks are not required for private party sales in Nevada, he said.
“We want to know who sold our suspect the gun, but we may not ever know,” Albertsen said.
This is the fuel the Brady Bunch uses regarding private sales. It's the same logic they used to try to sue gun makers for "deaths by gunfire".
Oh and it was sold in Ca?
SO IS THIS .....
Sadly, if a sick and murderous BG wants to modify an otherwise "legal" weapon to FA, it's not that hard....It's the criminal intent, and a one way killing spree this guy was on.
FTA
“According to ATF, it looked like a pretty good job,” Carson City Undersheriff Steve Albertsen said of the fully-automatic modification. He acknowledged it will be difficult to track the ownership. Background checks are not required for private party sales in Nevada, he said.
“We want to know who sold our suspect the gun, but we may not ever know,” Albertsen said.
This is the fuel the Brady Bunch uses regarding private sales. It's the same logic they used to try to sue gun makers for "deaths by gunfire".
Oh and it was sold in Ca?
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and?
Jared Lee Loughner's gun was totally legal and not modified, except for a high cap mag, (also legal), and had a higher casualty count.
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TW, saying that is is 'easy' to make one fully auto is something we have been saying "Oh no it isn't" to for years.
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Your right Haz,.. but it is not the firearm at fault. A BG with malicious intent, can modify anything, and do very bad things with it.
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It is fairly easy, if you have a well equipped machine shop and the skills to use the equipment.
Same with suppressors.
Of course under those circumstances you can build a gun from scratch.
Under those circumstances it isn't that hard to build your own nuke.