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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: twyacht on October 19, 2011, 06:54:03 PM
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Just something to watch....
I must say the Phoenix LEO's look very "spiffy" on their bicycles.... ::)
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I like the guy who was interviewed. He gets that the "Occupy Wall Street" crowd are really no diferent than the Tea Party. Its about citizens standing up on their hind legs and saying "Enough" to corruption, crony capitalism and a government that ignores the citizens. Quite frankly, I would welcome the Tea Party as one party and the Occupy folks as the other. At least we'd get an honest debate with no room for Mitt Romneys, and a clear agreement that there should be an open government where the special interests could pound sand and the voters would make the call.
FQ13
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Your right FQ, perhaps the Tae Party could keep the OWS crowd from defecating on Police Cars and not getting arrested for being douchebags....
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/article-2046586-0E481DB700000578-865_634x366.jpg)
Tea Party Arrests : 0 (unless you count the Code Pink, MoveOn.org Plants)....
OWS approaching 1000....
Plus the Tea Party, Packed it in,...and packed it out....Maybe NYC can enjoy the major $$$ for this cleanup.....
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Well TW I defer to Stewart on the Daily Show. He did a very funny montage of right wing talking heads like Hannity dissing the Occupy folks and then countered them with praise for the Tea Party for doing or espousing the same things. It was great TV and a good dose of reality. The shot to the jugular? He mentioned that folks like you condemn the ocupy crowd for rude behavior (which I agree is politically stupid and, well, rude). Still he said this, or something close: "The tea Party activists condemn the the Occupy Wallstreet protestors for breaking the law in that they are camping in a public park and littering. Last I checked these were misdemeanors. The Tea Party, the real Tea party from which they take their name? They broke into a private vessel and threw what would be about a million dollars today of cargo over the side. That's two class A felonies. Is anyone else seeing the hypocrisy"?
Just saying
FQ13
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If you have to defer to Jon Stewart,...I rest my case,.... ;)
I'll have to remember that when the American Nazi Party and the American Communist Party Occupy,...(the next town).....
Hey but they have Obama's Support.....
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/10/figures-nazi-party-throws-support-behind-occupy-wall-street-movement/
Susan Sarandon, called the Pope a Nazi,...twice,...and supports the OWS crowd....
The similarities with the Tea Party are truly astonishing... ;D
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Well, not to support Sarandon who's a twit in general but the Pope was in fact part of the Hitler youth at the age of 14 which was law at the time in Germany.
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If you have to defer to Jon Stewart,...I rest my case,.... ;)
I'll have to remember that when the American Nazi Party and the American Communist Party Occupy,...(the next town).....
Hey but they have Obama's Support.....
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/10/figures-nazi-party-throws-support-behind-occupy-wall-street-movement/
Susan Sarandon, called the Pope a Nazi,...twice,...and supports the OWS crowd....
The similarities with the Tea Party are truly astonishing... ;D
Due respect to the Catholics on the board, but the Pope WAS a Nazi (a member of the Hitler Youth. I will note that his predecessor John Paul II never joined the Communist party). I would further note that His Holiness has sheltered and honored Cardinal Law and is actively interfering with exploring sex abuse charges in Ireland, so I think Sarandon is right to call a spade a spade here. Benedict, nee Rattzinger can blow me. The man is an asshole of the first order. I say this as a high church episcopalian who considers himself an Anglo-Catholic, but this guy chaps my shorts. I mean no offense, but I won't apologize either. :-\
As far as similarities? The protest is about why the banks get the bailout and we get the bill. Why do the banks and brokers, who knew they were underwriting risky loans, walk away scott free and we get stuck with a trillion in sovereign debt? W proposed this, and BO ran with it. Both parties are to blame and we SHOULD be pissed. If there is some reason we shouldn't be please let me know.
FQ13
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The Pope also deserted his unit and fled back to his home. After being conscripted (that's pretty much drafted),....by the Hitler Youth.
The banks were FORCED by Jimmy Carter by the Fair Housing Act,....later reinforced by Bill Clinton,...where the banks,...KNEW a portion of the loans THEY WERE FORCED to make mostly to minorities and bad neighborhoods,....(can yo say Detroit?) amongst others....were going to default....
They wrote them off...My Father's a retired banker FQ, he saved his bank from the S&L disaster, and was part of the Freddie/Fannie SCAM...and retired young....(Probably hated by the OWS crowd)....and was told the lawsuits would be relentless unless banks big and small made loans to those downtrodden folks...WHO WERE LOSERS>>>>
Oh, and when Bush raised red flags,....he was told by Barney Frank, "All is Well",.....nothing to see here.....
Please,...it's a game.....The underwriters didn;t work for the banks,...they were paper pushers.....who also made it look good on ink...
I work at Denny's and would like to buy a $450,000 house on Riviera Beach,.....It happened....and it wasn't all the banks fault.
It was a Ponzi scheme like Social Security....and we are ALL being played...
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The banks were FORCED by Jimmy Carter by the Fair Housing Act,....later reinforced by Bill Clinton,...where the banks,...KNEW a portion of the loans THEY WERE FORCED to make mostly to minorities and bad neighborhoods,....(can yo say Detroit?) amongst others....were going to default....
That's pretty much a direct quote from my brother who's been managing a mortgage brokerage (he's not the broker, just manages the firm) in Michigan for the last 15 years or so. Their hands were tied in certain loan applications.
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The Pope also deserted his unit and fled back to his home. After being conscripted (that's pretty much drafted),....by the Hitler Youth.
The banks were FORCED by Jimmy Carter by the Fair Housing Act,....later reinforced by Bill Clinton,...where the banks,...KNEW a portion of the loans THEY WERE FORCED to make mostly to minorities and bad neighborhoods,....(can yo say Detroit?) amongst others....were going to default....
They wrote them off...My Father's a retired banker FQ, he saved his bank from the S&L disaster, and was part of the Freddie/Fannie SCAM...and retired young....(Probably hated by the OWS crowd)....and was told the lawsuits would be relentless unless banks big and small made loans to those downtrodden folks...WHO WERE LOSERS>>>>
Oh, and when Bush raised red flags,....he was told by Barney Frank, "All is Well",.....nothing to see here.....
Please,...it's a game.....The underwriters didn;t work for the banks,...they were paper pushers.....who also made it look good on ink...
I work at Denny's and would like to buy a $450,000 house on Riviera Beach,.....It happened....and it wasn't all the banks fault.
It was a Ponzi scheme like Social Security....and we are ALL being played...
Hey, don't confuse FQ with facts. Be nice to our resident useful idiot. ::)
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That's fine and true guys, but you can't deny the fact that the GOP controlled both houses of Congress for 12 years with a Republican President for six of those and did nothing to change it. You're blaming Carter for this? Seriously? What the hell happened between 2000 and 2006? Were you guys not in charge of the legislative and executive branch? Couldn't you have done something, or were the mean old Democrats just too scary? C'mon. As W. said "elections have consequences". One of those being that when you run the railroad in the Congress and the Presidency for six years, sooner or later it becomes your responsibility. ::)
FQ13
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Your 100% right FQ....the establishment Republicans fell asleep at the wheel.,....the Dems,...already asleep at the wheel just let it all culminate into what we have today....
Folks are waking up...and even with unprecedented low mortgage rates,....the banks aren't lending, unless you have a smokin' credit score, and our houses are continuing to lose value....
Nice combo,...I'd say we've been screwed, by both parties, for decades with not so much as flowers or a reach around....
Time for a change.
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Due respect to the Catholics on the board, but the Pope WAS a Nazi (a member of the Hitler Youth. I will note that his predecessor John Paul II never joined the Communist party). I would further note that His Holiness has sheltered and honored Cardinal Law and is actively interfering with exploring sex abuse charges in Ireland, so I think Sarandon is right to call a spade a spade here. Benedict, nee Rattzinger can blow me. The man is an asshole of the first order. I say this as a high church episcopalian who considers himself an Anglo-Catholic, but this guy chaps my shorts. I mean no offense, but I won't apologize either. :-\
As far as similarities? The protest is about why the banks get the bailout and we get the bill. Why do the banks and brokers, who knew they were underwriting risky loans, walk away scott free and we get stuck with a trillion in sovereign debt? W proposed this, and BO ran with it. Both parties are to blame and we SHOULD be pissed. If there is some reason we shouldn't be please let me know.
FQ13
Professor FQ again proves that he doesn't know crap about history.
Being a member of the Hitler Youth was NOT being a "Member of the Nazi Party" any more than being a Boy Scout means you are a member of the Republican Party, or belonging to ComSomol meant you were a member of the Soviet Communist Party.
They are citizenship focused Youth groups, get that, YOUTH, as in to young to vote, therefore to young to belong to a political party .
Gee, doesn't that make sense ?
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Well TW I defer to Stewart on the Daily Show. He did a very funny montage of right wing talking heads like Hannity dissing the Occupy folks and then countered them with praise for the Tea Party for doing or espousing the same things. It was great TV and a good dose of reality. The shot to the jugular? He mentioned that folks like you condemn the ocupy crowd for rude behavior (which I agree is politically stupid and, well, rude). Still he said this, or something close: "The tea Party activists condemn the the Occupy Wallstreet protestors for breaking the law in that they are camping in a public park and littering. Last I checked these were misdemeanors. The Tea Party, the real Tea party from which they take their name? They broke into a private vessel and threw what would be about a million dollars today of cargo over the side. That's two class A felonies. Is anyone else seeing the hypocrisy"?
Just saying
FQ13
Check your facts. While SOME of these parks are owned by New York City, many are not. They are in fact privately owned properties that had been improved and open for public use. At the expense of the property owner. For example:
http://ironicsurrealism.com/2011/10/13/doc-drop-zuccotti-park-owner%E2%80%99s-letter-of-complaint-to-nypd-police-commissioner-ray-kelly-on-occupy-wall-street-oct-11-2011/
"As you know, for over three weeks, Zuccotti Park (the “Park”) has been used by “Occupy Wall Street” and other protesters as their home base. The Park is owned by a Brookfield affiliate and was recently renovated at Brookfield’s considerable expense as an amenity for the general public. It is intended to be a relaxing tree-filled oasis in the midst of the hustle and bustle of Lower Manhattan. We fully support the rights of free speech and assembly, but the manner in which the protesters are occupying the Parkviolates the law, violates the rules of the Park, deprives the community of its rights of quiet enjoyment to the Park, and creates health and public safety issues that need to be addressed immediately."
More at the link.
This kind of crap has not been seen at the TEA Party rallies.
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Sounds like a bit more than littering, even if you leave out taking a sh!t on a (tax payer owned ) cop car.
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1374776&srvc=rss
Crime and clashes with vagrants continue to plague the Occupy Boston tent city as cops broke up a drug deal and protesters and police evicted two homeless squatters, one of whom was parading around naked, the Herald has learned.
Cops intervened in a ruckus in the tent city overnight as a loud scuffle broke out between protesters and an “aggressive” homeless man, a source said. The man was escorted out of the makeshift encampment.
Another man was tossed out by protesters after he stripped naked and was walking around the tents, the source said.
On Tuesday, cops spotted a “hand-to-hand” drug sale and busted a man with a Suboxone pill, for which he allegedly had no prescription. Cops seized the pill, which is an opiate suppressant, and will summons the man to court for drug possession, police said.
Also this morning, a demonstrator reported that his Apple Macbook laptop was swiped from his tent while he slept, police said.
The Herald reported today that tensions have escalated between the Occupiers and homeless, capped by a knife assault Sunday night.
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OBTW, Rape is getting popular at the Occupy (Cleavland) Camp....Seems even mentally handicapped 19 year olds, get "assigned" a tent mate "nothing says I'm doing my part, than tenting up with a male stranger"...
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/10/19/will-media-report-alleged-rape-occupy-cleveland-rally
and in Occupy (baltimore), a "memo" was sent about to the "campers" not to report assaults, or other crimes,....as it might put the "movement" in a "bad Light".....
Damn the victims,....just keep the movement going,....Just like the Tea Party would do...Right FQ?
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2011-10-19/news/bs-md-ci-occupy-baltimore-rape-20111019_1_sexual-assaults-sexual-abuse-report-crimes
I expect fires within a couple weeks, (hopefully not),...seen news from Greece lately? It's gonna get cold up North soon, nothing like starting some fires to keep warm....
Just like the Tea Party...Right FQ?