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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: Hazcat on October 20, 2011, 07:55:34 AM

Title: "Fast and Furious" guns at more crime scenes
Post by: Hazcat on October 20, 2011, 07:55:34 AM
By
    Sharyl Attkisson August 17, 2011

There are new details on the scope of violence surrounding thousands of weapons federal agents allegedly allowed to fall into the hands of criminals. The Justice Department reports "Fast and Furious" guns have been recovered at 11 violent crime scenes in the United States. Those crime scenes, in addition to the murder of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry in Dec. 2010,  puts the total number of U.S. crime scenes connected to "Fast and Furious" at 12.

The number is provided for the first time in a written response to Republicans investigating the gunwalker scandal. In the case, agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) say they were ordered to allow thousands of weapons into the hands of suspected gun traffickers for Mexican drug cartels. In its letter, the Justice Department indicates it doesn't have enough information to know how many weapons have been used in violent crimes south of the border in Mexico.

Senator Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) and Representative Darrell Issa (R-CA) are leading the Congressional probe. Today, they issued a sharp letter accusing the Department of Justice (DOJ) of playing "word games," and reneging on its agreement. The agreement provided that Congress would allow the nomination of the Justice Department's choice for Deputy Attorney General, James Cole, to move forward in June. In return, the Justice Department would give detailed answers to specific questions about the ATF gunwalker scandal. The Justice Department did provide some answers but, according to the Republicans, fell short of providing the full and complete responses promised. For example, the DOJ allegedly failed to provide all available details of the 11 violent crimes. The Justice Department says it's reviewing the letter.

Much more at link


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20093557-10391695.html
Title: Re: "Fast and Furious" guns at more crime scenes
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 20, 2011, 09:27:45 AM
By
    Sharyl Attkisson August 17, 2011

There are new details on the scope of violence surrounding thousands of weapons federal agents allegedly allowed to fall into the hands of criminals. The Justice Department reports "Fast and Furious" guns have been recovered at 11 violent crime scenes in the United States. Those crime scenes, in addition to the murder of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry in Dec. 2010,  puts the total number of U.S. crime scenes connected to "Fast and Furious" at 12.

The number is provided for the first time in a written response to Republicans investigating the gunwalker scandal. In the case, agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) say they were ordered to allow thousands of weapons into the hands of suspected gun traffickers for Mexican drug cartels. In its letter, the Justice Department indicates it doesn't have enough information to know how many weapons have been used in violent crimes south of the border in Mexico.

Senator Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) and Representative Darrell Issa (R-CA) are leading the Congressional probe. Today, they issued a sharp letter accusing the Department of Justice (DOJ) of playing "word games," and reneging on its agreement. The agreement provided that Congress would allow the nomination of the Justice Department's choice for Deputy Attorney General, James Cole, to move forward in June. In return, the Justice Department would give detailed answers to specific questions about the ATF gunwalker scandal. The Justice Department did provide some answers but, according to the Republicans, fell short of providing the full and complete responses promised. For example, the DOJ allegedly failed to provide all available details of the 11 violent crimes. The Justice Department says it's reviewing the letter.

Much more at link


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20093557-10391695.html

Dems reneging on promises after they get what they want ?
That's a shocker.    ::)
Title: Re: "Fast and Furious" guns at more crime scenes
Post by: Hazcat on October 20, 2011, 10:16:50 AM
Dems reneging on promises after they get what they want ?
That's a shocker.    ::)

The very fact that a 'deal' had to be made with the DOJ to get the facts is disgusting!
Title: Re: "Fast and Furious" guns at more crime scenes
Post by: mauler on October 21, 2011, 06:03:11 PM
Abolish the ATF.
Title: Re: "Fast and Furious" guns at more crime scenes
Post by: fightingquaker13 on October 21, 2011, 06:17:01 PM
This is one of those circumstances where one would think you would bandy about such words as "subpoena, First Branch, Contempt, Obstruction and Felony". But hey, no one ever accused me of playing well with others.
FQ13