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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: twyacht on November 08, 2011, 09:31:00 PM
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http://tucsoncitizen.com/arizona-news/2011/11/07/mesa-police-homeowner-pistol-whips-burglary-suspect/
Mesa police: Homeowner pistol whips burglary suspect
by Alex Ferri on Nov. 07, 2011, under Arizona Republic News
A Mesa homeowner subdued a suspected burglar Thursday by hitting him with a handgun in self-defense, according to the Mesa Police Department.
The victim’s teenage daughter confronted the burglar shortly before midnight after she heard noise from an upstairs room in the family’s home near Val Vista and University drives.
Police said the commotion woke the girl’s father, who grabbed a handgun and told the burglar to get on the ground. The burglar complied at first but then rushed the homeowner, who struck the burglar in the face with the handgun.
The burglar had reportedly entered the house through an unlocked back door caused $500 in damage by kicking a wall and tearing stereo equipment from the wall.
Police arrested Scott Alan Nagy, 20, on suspicion of second degree burglary and criminal damage.
Nagy reportedly admitted being intoxicated, but police weren’t able to interview him because he was yelling incoherently and couldn’t complete sentences, police said.
He was transported to Arizona Regional Medical Center in Mesa for further evaluation.
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Pistol whipping (properly) involves an all metal gun, the plastic fantastc is not mentioned.
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TW spake thus: ;D
Pistol whipping (properly) involves an all metal gun, the plastic fantastc is not mentioned
For the record, if you pistol whip somebody you are not using the handgun correctly. That's pretty well covered in the Glock owner's maual. In fact it is referenced twice . First under bullets, (fire them), secondly under trigger pull, (a good idea when confronted with an intruder, repeat as often as necessary to obtain the desired result). ;D
FQ13 who will be writing a scathing letter to CS if I ever have to pistol whip anybody, if I wanted a club I'd have bought one. ;)
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I've been looking for a place to say this. I recently bought some 33 round mags for my Glocks. After fully loading them, I noticed they would make a nice club. They would make a pretty nice duel purpose tool.
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I've been looking for a place to say this. I recently bought some 33 round mags for my Glocks. After fully loading them, I noticed they would make a nice club. They would make a pretty nice duel purpose tool.
Due respect, but if you haven't settled the matter one way or another 34 rounds into the gun fight, well.........we'll still say nice things about you, honest. ;)
FQ13
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Due respect, but if you haven't settled the matter one way or another 34 rounds into the gun fight, well.........we'll still say nice things about you, honest. ;)
FQ13
I said fully loaded; that implies that I haven't shot at all. That spare 33 rounder gets used as the club, not the one in the gun.
Of course, clubbing would be very low on my list of uses for any functioning gun with at least one round still in it.
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I said fully loaded; that implies that I haven't shot at all. That spare 33 rounder gets used as the club, not the one in the gun.
Of course, clubbing would be very low on my list of uses for any functioning gun with at least one round still in it.
Oh I don't know about that.
Some times you want to hurt them more than you want to kill them.
That's why I'm saving up for a Tazer, the gift that keeps on giving ;D
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Don't know about everyone else, I don't want to be on the recieving end of any of the above. ;D ;D ;D
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Oh I don't know about that.
Some times you want to hurt them more than you want to kill them.
That's why I'm saving up for a Tazer, the gift that keeps on giving ;D
I'm confident my pistol will function properly after a pistol whipping (there's enough metal on this "plastic fantastic" to get the job done), but I would rather use someting else to inflict the pain. A tazer would work well. Some type of club would work too, if you're looking for a little workout.
Don't know about everyone else, I don't want to be on the recieving end of any of the above. ;D ;D ;D
Agreed.
I'm glad it worked out well for everybody important in the article. It could have turned out much differently and worse for the daughter or father for that matter. It doesn't say how old she is as "teenage" covers a wide range of maturity levels, but it may be time to reass their emergency response plans. Maybe some firearm training for her and better planning for waking the dad? In fairness, the article isn't very detailed, and whatever they did worked. So, they may have a functioning plan already.
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Some type of club would work too, if you're looking for a little workout.
I've wanted a sap since I saw Sean Connery used one in The Untouchables. They have always been cool but seeing one used in action put it on my list, even if I have to make one. Yes I know they are illegal in most places but it'll just look cool on the desk holding down some papers.
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I've wanted a sap since I saw Sean Connery used one in The Untouchables. They have always been cool but seeing one used in action put it on my list, even if I have to make one. Yes I know they are illegal in most places but it'll just look cool on the desk holding down some papers.
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A sock half full of sand, or a deep sea fishing sinker on a piece of twine, you can throw it and pull it back for another throw.
Either one can easily kill a person, but if you're careful you can hurt them badly, then when they get out of the hospital, and finish their rehab you can do it again. ;D
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First, it's about availability. A sap or club or baseball bat are nice, but if you have a gun in your hand...well it's available. It's handy. And let's face it you're either being charitable not shooting a non-lethal opponent or desperate having run out of bullets.
I think revolvers make the perfect hand-to-hand weapon. Not only are mostly all metal, they tend to be heavier for any given barrel length than other guns. Besides, the longer barreled ones give you an excellent handle with which to swing it.
I think the guy in the article realized he was dealing with a drunk and probably used the necessary and proper force in dealing with the situation. I think you have to guard though against downsizing your response beyond that which insures you win.
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Sweet God Alf, you have come up with the ultimate, Honey I had to buy it, excuse. Sorry, but I am ROFL to the point that coffee is coming out of my nose. Let me translate.
"I need a a very expensive (some would say over priced) revolver as it has sufficient weight to hit someone over the head, and that dear could save our lives"
"well yes dear, but before you buy another $1000 S@W revolver to "protect" us, don't you think that .41 mag is kind of a boutique round"?
"Not at all dear, and with the 6" barrel I can pistol whip any hooligan into submission(strutting around the room)".
"That's true dear, but for one third the price I can just shoot the asshole with my new kel-tec, no pistol whipping required, so why don't you just calm down and come back to bed"? ;D ;D ;D
FQ13
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Thank, FQ. Glad I made your morning. I knew the middle paragraph was tongue-in-cheek, but I didn't think it was that funny.
Actually, I've told Katherine that stainless steel is the next great investment opportunity in precious metals. That backfired, because now she wants all new stainless cookware and appliances.
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Thank, FQ. Glad I made your morning. I knew the middle paragraph was tongue-in-cheek, but I didn't think it was that funny.
Actually, I've told Katherine that stainless steel is the next great investment opportunity in precious metals. That backfired, because now she wants all new stainless cookware and appliances.
Say yes to the cookware (I recommend All Clad), but say no to to the appliances. You would think think stainless steal was maintenance free, but you would be wrong. It stains, streaks and shows grease more than a comparable enamel painted product (I know where of I speak). Do not buy the stainless, its like getting a black car. You better like washing the thing. ;)
FQ13
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Say yes to the cookware (I recommend All Clad), but say no to to the appliances. You would think think stainless steal was maintenance free, but you would be wrong. It stains, streaks and shows grease more than a comparable enamel painted product (I know where of I speak). Do not buy the stainless, its like getting a black car. You better like washing the thing. ;)
FQ13
I concur and it's made here as well.
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Lets rephrase that.
"1911 owner, its the best half assed club out there"!
Contrast it with this.
"Glock owner: Pistol whip, wait a minute, I still have two zombies to shoot. Ok, sorry, I'm back with you now, you were saying something about pistol whipping? I have 18 rounds, Why would I do that?" ;D
FQ13
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Just because thread drift rules...............
I had All Clad stainless steel pots and pans (made near here). They cost a fortune and at the time I thought they were nice. They went away in the divorce and I had to get a new set. I was not about to spend that much money again and ended up with a set of stainless from Better Home and Garden for a fraction of the cost. I like cooking with them much better than the All Clad. I think they distribute heat better than the All Clad. And The BHG seem to clean up much easier and do not seem as prone to all the staining the All Clad did. Just my observation.
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A sock half full of sand, or a deep sea fishing sinker on a piece of twine, you can throw it and pull it back for another throw.
Either one can easily kill a person, but if you're careful you can hurt them badly, then when they get out of the hospital, and finish their rehab you can do it again. ;D
LOL! I like it. Wonder if it works on managers? ;D
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Of course, clubbing would be very low on my list of uses for any functioning gun with at least one round still in it.
Unless it's a Taurus. ;D ;D ;D
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TW spake thus: ;D
Pistol whipping (properly) involves an all metal gun, the plastic fantastc is not mentioned
For the record, if you pistol whip somebody you are not using the handgun correctly. That's pretty well covered in the Glock owner's maual. In fact it is referenced twice . First under bullets, (fire them), secondly under trigger pull, (a good idea when confronted with an intruder, repeat as often as necessary to obtain the desired result). ;D
FQ13 who will be writing a scathing letter to CS if I ever have to pistol whip anybody, if I wanted a club I'd have bought one. ;)
That's going to come as a complete surprise to the Wyatt Earps, Bat Mastersons, et al., who routinely used guns to buffalo drunks, suspects, and assorted BGs. The gun is only a tool, and can be used in many ways - unless it's made of plastic! ;)
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A sock half full of sand, or a deep sea fishing sinker on a piece of twine, you can throw it and pull it back for another throw.
Either one can easily kill a person, but if you're careful you can hurt them badly, then when they get out of the hospital, and finish their rehab you can do it again. ;D
Never underestimate the power of two AA batteries, tied in the center of a regular handkerchief or bandanna.......When stuck in a pocket, it looks normal to anyone. It can do a lot of hurtin' on a noggin' if needed and is fairly rapidly deploy-able.
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The gun is only a tool, and can be used in many ways - unless it's made of plastic! ;)
My sentiments exactly.
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I think the Dad, did the right thing,...a drunk/doped incoherent Darwin Potential Candidate, deserves what he got...
Kinda one of those life lessons....like this one....
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I forgot about that scene ROFL
Thanks TW ;D
NOTE TO QUAKER - Subtle doesn't work ;D
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I forgot about that scene ROFL
Thanks TW ;D
NOTE TO QUAKER - Subtle doesn't work ;D
Why are you bitching to me about subtle? I would have just shot the son of a bitch, screw pistol whipping. Hell, I'll use a "pistol bayonet" before I use my pistol as a club, unless its empty.
FQ13
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Why are you bitching to me about subtle? I would have just shot the son of a bitch, screw pistol whipping. Hell, I'll use a "pistol bayonet" before I use my pistol as a club, unless its empty.
FQ13
It was a reference to the thread about the 15 y/o home invader.
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It was a reference to the thread about the 15 y/o home invader.
I know. I'd have shot his ass. Sorry, but in my house means leaving on a gurney. I don't do John Wayne. Stay outside or accept the consequences.
FQ13