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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: tombogan03884 on December 02, 2011, 09:21:11 PM
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http://news.yahoo.com/ultraconservative-party-push-islamic-egypt-001127140.html
CAIRO (AP) — Anticipating a strong presence in the new Egyptian parliament, ultraconservative Islamists outlined plans Friday for a strict brand of religious law, a move that could limit personal freedoms and steer a key U.S. ally toward an Islamic state.
Egypt's election commission announced only a trickle of results from the first round of parliamentary elections and said 62 percent of eligible voters cast ballots in the highest turnout in modern history.
However, leaked counts point to a clear majority for Islamist parties at the expense of liberal activist groups that led the uprising against Hosni Mubarak, toppling a regime long seen as a secular bulwark in the Middle East.
The more pragmatic Muslim Brotherhood is poised to take the largest share of votes, as much as 45 percent. But the Nour Party, which espouses a strict interpretation of Islam in which democracy is subordinate to the Quran, could win a quarter of the house, giving it much power to affect debate.
A spokesman, Yousseri Hamad, said his party considers God's law the only law.
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It was such a "no-brainer" that I wonder why people didn't see it immediately. It was as plain as the nose on their face.
Then there was this Col. Gadaffi guy who finally did everything the US asked....and after being a "good boy" we aided in bringing him down killing him. That's really going to impress the next dictator we make demands on to straighten up his act... I bet the Iranians are laughing their asses off.
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It was such a "no-brainer" that I wonder why people didn't see it immediately. It was as plain as the nose on their face.
Then there was this Col. Gadaffi guy who finally did everything the US asked....and after being a "good boy" we aided in bringing him down killing him. That's really going to impress the next dictator we make demands on to straighten up his act... I bet the Iranians are laughing their asses off.
You mean like Syria ?
I was trying to tell them about Libya as well.
Let's sit back and wait for them to start saying "How could this happen?".
Another 6 months you think ?
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Think they can fill 6 months with "reaching out"s and "taking note"s and any other make nice gestures before the hand wringing begins....
Of course, it just might not take them that long for the Job Well Done toast for the top level.
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No, I meant 6 months to organize elections for the Jihadis to gain power while the socialist in chief applauds the turn out.
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I urge caution and reflection....Didn't W put in a government in Iraq that voted in Sharia Law?
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I urge caution and reflection....Didn't W put in a government in Iraq that voted in Sharia Law?
No. As a matter of fact he didn't.
Iraq has not voted in Sharia law that I've heard of.
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No. As a matter of fact he didn't.
Iraq has not voted in Sharia law that I've heard of.
I believe you are wrong on this one. Article 2 of their constitution states in part:
"Article 2:
First: Islam is the official religion of the State and is a foundation source of
legislation:
A. No law may be enacted that contradicts the established provisions of Islam"
The established provisions of Islam is founded upon Sharia law. I'll grant that I am not an expert on Islam, though I do have a copy of the Qur'an in my library, but I believe they had to put some of it in because of the dominant political party in Iraq was pushing for it.
My point is we can't condemn BO for the same things W did as well.
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I believe you are wrong on this one. Article 2 of their constitution states in part:
"Article 2:
First: Islam is the official religion of the State and is a foundation source of
legislation:
A. No law may be enacted that contradicts the established provisions of Islam"
The established provisions of Islam is founded upon Sharia law. I'll grant that I am not an expert on Islam, though I do have a copy of the Qur'an in my library, but I believe they had to put some of it in because of the dominant political party in Iraq was pushing for it.
My point is we can't condemn BO for the same things W did as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Iraq
You left out the several lines that make your statement a lie.
Article 2:
First: Islam is the official religion of the State and is a foundation source of
legislation:
A. No law may be enacted that contradicts the established provisions of Islam
B. No law may be enacted that contradicts the principles of democracy.
C. No law may be enacted that contradicts the rights and basic freedoms
stipulated in this Constitution.
Second: This Constitution guarantees the Islamic identity of the majority of the
Iraqi people and guarantees the full religious rights to freedom of religious belief
and practice of all individuals such as Christians, Yazidis, and Mandean Sabeans.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Iraq
You left out the several lines that make your statement a lie.
Article 2:
First: Islam is the official religion of the State and is a foundation source of
legislation:
A. No law may be enacted that contradicts the established provisions of Islam
B. No law may be enacted that contradicts the principles of democracy.
C. No law may be enacted that contradicts the rights and basic freedoms
stipulated in this Constitution.
Second: This Constitution guarantees the Islamic identity of the majority of the
Iraqi people and guarantees the full religious rights to freedom of religious belief
and practice of all individuals such as Christians, Yazidis, and Mandean Sabeans.
A lie, Tom? Now hold on a minute. I thought we had an understanding about personal attacks. You don't live up to your word, Tom?
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A lie, Tom? Now hold on a minute. I thought we had an understanding about personal attacks. You don't live up to your word, Tom?
Not a personal attack.
A statement of fact.
You edited out several lines in order to mislead, that's lying in my book.
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Not a personal attack.
A statement of fact.
You edited out several lines in order to mislead, that's lying in my book.
Tom I mention that I was quoting in part, nothing misleading about that statement. I could go on to explain to you how you have to interpret their constitution from an Islamic law perspective, but I'm not qualified to give that argument and it would not do any good anyway.
So what I now know as fact is your word is worth is worthless.
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Tom I mention that I was quoting in part, nothing misleading about that statement. I could go on to explain to you how you have to interpret their constitution from an Islamic law perspective, but I'm not qualified to give that argument and it would not do any good anyway.
So what I now know as fact is your word is worth is worthless.
The part you left out changes the entire meaning of what was stated.
You use an edited statement to mislead the readers of the thread and then have the nerve to say MY word is no good ?
You should run for Congress.