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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: fullautovalmet76 on December 03, 2011, 07:29:52 PM
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Considering the GOP field as of this date (12/3/2011) the only real, credible alternative to BO is Ron Paul; but you knew that already. ;)
If Ron Paul does not get the nomination, the only two serious challengers remaining are Romney and Gingrich. If either of them are elected, I will say this now: they are a worse reality than BO. BO is bad but either of these two would represent a tragic shift toward a totalitarian state.
I will never vote for BO and I will never vote for Romney or Gingrich either. I am reading a few books about/by Barry Goldwater. He mentions in one that conservatives should be seeking ways to maximize freedom. The only candidate really doing that is Ron Paul and Romney or Gingrich are trying to maximize the power of the state.
Here are my preferences:
i. Jesus
1. Ron Paul
1A. George Washington
2. Ronald Regan
3. Ike
4. Herman Cain
5. Sanatorium
6. Michelle Bachman
7. Romney
8. Jon Huntsman
9. Satan/Lucifer/Baphomet/Gingrich
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Considering the GOP field as of this date (12/3/2011) the only real, credible alternative to BO is Ron Paul; but you knew that already. ;)
If Ron Paul does not get the nomination, the only two serious challengers remaining are Romney and Gingrich. If either of them are elected, I will say this now: they are a worse reality than BO. BO is bad but either of these two would represent a tragic shift toward a totalitarian state.
I will never vote for BO and I will never vote for Romney or Gingrich either. I am reading a few books about/by Barry Goldwater. He mentions in one that conservatives should be seeking ways to maximize freedom. The only candidate really doing that is Ron Paul and Romney or Gingrich are trying to maximize the power of the state.
Here are my preferences:
i. Jesus
1. Ron Paul
1A. George Washington
2. Ronald Regan
3. Ike
4. Herman Cain
5. Sanatorium
6. Michelle Bachman
7. Romney
8. Jon Huntsman
9. Satan/Lucifer/Baphomet/Gingrich
You've got to be joking .
There goes any credibility you may have had
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Considering the GOP field as of this date (12/3/2011) the only real, credible alternative to BO is Ron Paul; but you knew that already. ;)
If Ron Paul does not get the nomination, the only two serious challengers remaining are Romney and Gingrich. If either of them are elected, I will say this now: they are a worse reality than BO. BO is bad but either of these two would represent a tragic shift toward a totalitarian state.
I will never vote for BO and I will never vote for Romney or Gingrich either. I am reading a few books about/by Barry Goldwater. He mentions in one that conservatives should be seeking ways to maximize freedom. The only candidate really doing that is Ron Paul and Romney or Gingrich are trying to maximize the power of the state.
Here are my preferences:
i. Jesus
1. Ron Paul
1A. George Washington
2. Ronald Regan
3. Ike
4. Herman Cain
5. Sanatorium
6. Michelle Bachman
7. Romney
8. Jon Huntsman
9. Satan/Lucifer/Baphomet/Gingrich
You have to go to Chicago to meet some of these guys. They'll be in line to vote.. Jesus just left, and nobody gets to vote for Him.. He's already God and outlaws voting..
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I'm sorry there is no fate worse than BO getting reelected. If that happens, Katy bar the door. We are DOOMED! and we'll have RP supporters to vent our frustration on 8)
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In 1992, the Republicans brought a weak candidate and blamed it on Perot. It seems the solution would be to bring a good candidate, but that's just me.
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You have to go to Chicago to meet some of these guys. They'll be in line to vote.. Jesus just left, and nobody gets to vote for Him.. He's already God and outlaws voting..
I didn't want your ZZ Top reference to go unnoticed. My band is very proud of our ability to do a sweet job with that medley.
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I agree fullautovalmet. I do believe that we would be much better off with 4 more years of Barry Soetoro than a first term of Gingrich the NWO waterboy or Romney the greasy used car salesman. Barry is politically weak, and I believe he would remain so throughout a lame duck term largely due to the economy, which won't improve, and other issues such as Fast and Furious blowing up in his face. Alternatively, if someone like Gingrich were elected, he would come in with a "mandate" to perpetuate and worsen the policies of Barry, who perpetuated and worsened the policies of GW Bush. And there would, of course, be a throng of phony "conservatives" that have been voluntarily baffled by their subscription to the false left/right paradigm who would jump and down cheering as Gingrich further propelled us into totalitarianism. This would be the same crowd of idiots who would vehemently disapprove if the guy from the other team did the exact same thing.
It comes down to this: if the R party nominates anyone other than Ron Paul, then Barry will be re-elected.
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I agree fullautovalmet. I do believe that we would be much better off with 4 more years of Barry Soetoro than a first term of Gingrich the NWO waterboy or Romney the greasy used car salesman. Barry is politically weak, and I believe he would remain so throughout a lame duck term largely due to the economy, which won't improve, and other issues such as Fast and Furious blowing up in his face. Alternatively, if someone like Gingrich were elected, he would come in with a "mandate" to perpetuate and worsen the policies of Barry, who perpetuated and worsened the policies of GW Bush. And there would, of course, be a throng of phony "conservatives" that have been voluntarily baffled by their subscription to the false left/right paradigm who would jump and down cheering as Gingrich further propelled us into totalitarianism. This would be the same crowd of idiots who would vehemently disapprove if the guy from the other team did the exact same thing.
It comes down to this: if the R party nominates anyone other than Ron Paul, then Barry will be re-elected.
That's the kind of "intelligence" that Ron Paul has been counting on for the last 23 years.
You complain about Gingrich as " the NWO waterboy " right after saying we would be better off with the Nanny state Poster boy ?
Do you ever actually think before posting this sort of foolishness ?
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FullAuto has left the building. It appears he has quit the forum.
There's no fullautovalmet76 listed anymore either.
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Personally, I think the Republicans don't want the job right now. They know that this mess we're in is going to last over four years and they will look better blaming it on the Democrats. (I also believe they don't want the unpopularity that would come with the drasytic cuts needed to fix things. You think the backlash was tough when Clinton signed the "assault weapon ban", imagine the backlash that would come from these buts. Hooh-Boy!)
There will be a Republican in office in 2016. That's the target and all plans are probably focused there.
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There will be a Republican in office in 2016. That's the target and all plans are probably focused there.
Problem
There may not be an "Office" or Country to be elected to. If the Rep's. don't have the testicular fortitude to stop this countries direction, another term of BHO will leave us like Uganda.
Two things will happen by 2016 if BHO wins another term:
1) The Tea Party will defect from the Republican Party, and a Viable Third Party will come out of it.
2) A Second Civil War.
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Fullauto quit when I called him on some creative editing about religious freedom under the Iraqi Constitution.
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=18278.0
Ulmas, I think you are wrong FDR got the office during the Depression and kept it for the rest of his life with out fixing squat while getting us into the biggest war in history.
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Two things will happen by 2016 if BHO wins another term:
1) The Tea Party will defect from the Republican Party, and a Viable Third Party will come out of it.
2) A Second Civil War.
Don't miss this, folks.. While I still couldn't see myself voting for Romney in the general election without vomiting in the booth, (and I think Romney would be worse than "O", just as Mc Cain would have been worse than "O") if O wins, the political order in this country will change at a fundamental level,.. and Soros and his bunch will have won the game, at which point China will take out Soros and Company, (by law or lead) the way it should have been done by the CIA after the GB Pound..
As an aside, I'm amazed that nobody talks about that guy. He's the biggest open secret since China offered to nuke California back in 94!! Even Rush rarely mentions the guy!! Even TRUMP seems mute about the guy!!
Ignoring him (at our level) as these proceedings take place really is the same thing as rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
So what is it with the Paul guys, anyway.. I'd be curious to see a poll of them to see if Kucinich would be an acceptable second choice, both being purists of a sort.. They yell louder till nobody listens anymore. Then,... somethin.... I don't know what... Slash tires or something.. I don't know.. Every conservative tells them that we wish the world were that simple, listen to them make their case, ask for "But, what happens then?", at which point, the conversation turns to "Yeah, well your guy sucks!!! You'll be sorry!!". It's like dealing with a college kid!!!! Aaahhhh!!!
Paul supporters, let tbe beatings begin!!!
Joe
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Not quite sure what to make of the China angle as mutual interests and big money coincide between Soros and China. "Disrupt the system, and be the light at the end of the tunnel"....Both China and Soros have that in mind.
As far as ignoring Soros, Glenn Beck, love him or hate him, while on Fox News, gave lengthy and detailed associations with the Tides Foundation, Workers Of The World Unite, Valerie Jarret, half the freakin' Czars in the BHO admin, (the rest are just socialists)....
Those that chose to pay attention, stay informed, do their own research, check it out for themselves, found out a great deal about the inner-workings of a Soros plan....
I have heard Rush mention Soros several times. Trump won;t mention him, because he has more money than Trump.
Please watch, as Glenn states, with an open mind...and realize the "Puppetmaster" has much bigger plans than our little country...
subsequent parts on youtube.
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I meant besides Beck.. I had known about the creepy bastard long before Beck but nothing compared to what he showed.. I made the comment because Beck is internet only now and off the radar of (myself, and) most, now.. Memories are short and Beck can be discredited to most of the masses because of his manner on the radio.. I can't stand to listen to Beck on the radio, myself.. He gets distracted and it takes him three days sometimes to finish a thought... I'm still annoyed at Fox that he left.. I think they've gone soft..
I mention China because of a couple of conversations Beck had about the PLA's wariness of Soros over potential currency manipulation and the Yuan.. I understand the basics but I'm not a currency guy. I don't understand alot of their potential concern.
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Ulmus, I think you are wrong FDR got the office during the Depression and kept it for the rest of his life with out fixing squat while getting us into the biggest war in history.
It's possible that I'm wrong. I have no crystal ball to tell the future. As for another war, given Iran's closeness to getting a nuke, I see us going in just in time to distract everyone from the possible civil unrest that Twyacht forsees. (Just looks at the recent escalation in covert ops going on.)
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It's possible that I'm wrong. I have no crystal ball to tell the future. As for another war, given Iran's closeness to getting a nuke, I see us going in just in time to distract everyone from the possible civil unrest that Twyacht forsees. (Just looks at the recent escalation in covert ops going on.)
Just reading the Tea leaves different.
Not quite sure what to make of the China angle as mutual interests and big money coincide between Soros and China. "Disrupt the system, and be the light at the end of the tunnel"....Both China and Soros have that in mind.
As far as ignoring Soros, Glenn Beck, love him or hate him, while on Fox News, gave lengthy and detailed associations with the Tides Foundation, Workers Of The World Unite, Valerie Jarret, half the freakin' Czars in the BHO admin, (the rest are just socialists)....
Those that chose to pay attention, stay informed, do their own research, check it out for themselves, found out a great deal about the inner-workings of a Soros plan....
I have heard Rush mention Soros several times. Trump won;t mention him, because he has more money than Trump.
Please watch, as Glenn states, with an open mind...and realize the "Puppetmaster" has much bigger plans than our little country...
subsequent parts on youtube.
Not really TW.
Soros has big bucks in GazProm, the Russian oil conglomerate, and is bung hole buddies with Putin.
If the Chinese wanted to send a pointed message, whacking Georgie would do the job.
They would not have to ask "Can you hear me now".
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Good point Tom, I see Putin, and the recent elections are true to old Mother Russian standards....
Just a few snippets from Drudge.
United Russia suffers big decline in elections...
Russian monitors complain of harassment...
More than 100 detained in Moscow...
'Massive cyber attacks'...
'FOUL PLAY'...
Seems Putin wants it, and come hell or high water will get it...Russia, with a Chinese back up, can be a global force that even the traitorous Jew Soros, would end up with a horse head in his bed if needed.
But Soros is global, and intertwined in so many groups and associations, that if he was whacked, Russia and China forming an alliance would be a real problem...
Sure am glad there is BHO to handle it.... :P
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"Traitorous jew Soros"? Um, no ofense TW, but seriously? Do you want to go with that? Asshole fine. Traitorous jew on the other hand, I mean I think connecting Putin of all people to a jewish conspiracy? Just sayin'.
FQ13 who is hoping that might have been a bit of an oopsie because that's not exactly the image I want to project..
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"Traitorous jew Soros"? Um, no ofense TW, but seriously? Do you want to go with that? Asshole fine. Traitorous jew on the other hand, I mean I think connecting Putin of all people to a jewish conspiracy? Just sayin'.
FQ13 who is hoping that might have been a bit of an oopsie because that's not exactly the image I want to project..
FQ, look at his history. He started his career by stabbing the Jews in the back.. As a Jew, himself, that makes him a traitor, to me..
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FQ, look at his history. He started his career by stabbing the Jews in the back.. As a Jew, himself, that makes him a traitor, to me..
Ok, but say that. I just get tired of the anti-fed crowd starting to critique the banking system and fiat currency and then we are off on the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. It makes us all look like conspiracy loons, and anti-semites and loses what might otherwise be a cogent argument. I think one can make a reasonable argument without dragging race or religion into it, as it is utterly extraneous to the point. Plus, its done a heck of a lot of damage historically. I mean if Soros was a Lutheran would it matter?
FQ13
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FQ, watch the Beck video before you make a total ass of yourself.
Again.