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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Gr8Heath on December 15, 2011, 03:15:28 AM
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I like browsing peoples uploaded videos, but I hate the sad back and forth commentary between people who assume they have the answer the everything. I made the mistake of attempting to talk sense into an uninformed individual who is anti gun. what was I thinking?
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I like browsing peoples uploaded videos, but I hate the sad back and forth commentary between people who assume they have the answer the everything. I made the mistake of attempting to talk sense into an uninformed individual who is anti gun. what was I thinking?
Enjoy the free music and the "Hold my beer and watch this" videos. Otherwise I'd leave it alone.
FQ13
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Don't try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of time and it annoys the pig.
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Most of those people adopt the agenda first then modify their opinions to fit it.
You would have better luck convincing a wall of something.
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Other than Hitchcock45, Nutnfancy and the occasional "Hold my beer and watch this" I don't go there much. And I have never commented on any of the videos for the reason Tom mentioned above.
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Don't try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of time and it annoys the pig.
Words of wisdom! ;D Although pigs seem smarter than most antigunners...
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I thought the post had something to do with porn (or lack thereof) on YouTube. My bad. :-[
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I thought the post had something to do with porn (or lack thereof) on YouTube. My bad. :-[
He's alive! :D
Glad to see ya back.
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I thought the post had something to do with porn (or lack thereof) on YouTube. My bad. :-[
Better luck next time BAC ;D
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Other than Hitchcock45, Nutnfancy and the occasional "Hold my beer and watch this" I don't go there much. And I have never commented on any of the videos for the reason Tom mentioned above.
I agree entirely. t've never commented before, until I heard some serious ignorance. I knew it was pointless, just could not let it go unchecked. :)
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It explains a lot in our (sorry) state of affairs.
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Don't try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of time and it annoys the pig.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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You should watch this guy shoot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEV5vk-6Auc
He is awesome!
;D
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I don't try to convince anti-gunners..I gave up on that back in high school or early college. What I do is expose them as being intolerant, bigoted and mean-spirited. That goes a lot further with an audience and puts them on the defensive...sometimes they even shut up without anyone having to tell them too.
They aren't sharing ideas...they are expressing emotions. So...when I engage these people in this manner they aren't expecting it...they are expecting someone to engage their emotions with a rational fact based debate. I don't scream & holler...just pleasantly with an incredulous look express the appropriate observation of them being bigots....it gets inside their OODA loop and messes them up when you walk away on the basis that they are "emotionally impaired" or otherwise crazy.
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Here again we disagree. I never was much for name calling (even if its true). You may not convince them, but you might convince someone who is listening. Rational debate is a powerful tool, just be sneaky about it. As you say, you may not convince them about guns. But maybe you can convince them about tolerance. Don't call them a bigot and leave the room, try to sell a live and let live policy instead. That resonates with their values and might actually work. But then, I'm an optimist.
FQ13 the Willie Loman of the 2A. ;D
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Here again we disagree. I never was much for name calling (even if its true). You may not convince them, but you might convince someone who is listening. Rational debate is a powerful tool, just be sneaky about it. As you say, you may not convince them about guns. But maybe you can convince them about tolerance. Don't call them a bigot and leave the room, try to sell a live and let live policy instead. That resonates with their values and might actually work. But then, I'm an optimist.
FQ13 the Willie Loman of the 2A. ;D
I think you misunderstand, it is not name calling, it is taking away their argument by showing the racist , illogical base that it rests on.
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I like browsing peoples uploaded videos, but I hate the sad back and forth commentary between people who assume they have the answer the everything. I made the mistake of attempting to talk sense into an uninformed individual who is anti gun. what was I thinking?
That's where my thread on RP Supporters came from..
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I thought the post had something to do with porn (or lack thereof) on YouTube. My bad. :-[
lol need some other links where you can do that ;)
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I am a massive fan of youtube
as I don't have cable tv and when there is nothing on free to air i just sit on yt watching all sorts of stuff
and I love messing with people's heads on it, don't do it much however have fun when I do
people get all worked up
what I laugh at the most how aggressive greenies and vego's get about animal rights stuff ;)
makes them more pissed off when you point that out as well :D
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There is some crazy shit on youtube.
If you can think of it, you will find it. ( unless its been removed lol)
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I use youtube a lot and you can learn lots of stuff about guns and how to tear different ones down and other good things.