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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: rojawe on December 18, 2011, 04:06:51 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7mwP5Di5NE&feature=related :'(
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Regardless of your OP....the fact that Rachael Maddow, one of the most leftist hacks on television, is hammering her own President!
Gives me a tingling feeling down my leg! I really love it when Obama pisses off his own people...
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Also posted in the politics thread. Dianne Feinstien, yes really,....is opposed....Yet even Allen West supports it....
2012,....keep your stocks up...
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Why isn't this son of a bitch being impeached? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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Why isn't this son of a bitch being impeached? ? ? ? ? ? ?
I so enjoyed the last one! ;D
It would be great fun to watch the .gov get absolutely nothing done for another year.... ;) The last thing we need from them is more frigging laws they don't enforce..
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Got to watch the sub-chapters of gov't agencies, working under the blanket of Fed Authority.
Remember, this is a chronic bureaucracy. By the time some "little team" starts rounding up "threats",.....your in Guantanamo....
A valid post from Feb.
Yes,...it can potentially get to that.....
Who deems you a threat is irrelevant, as long as it's a Federal charge.
As the next firearm, magazine and ammunition stockpiling frenzy begins, heralded by the announced drive for another AWB, here's a question:
Are people spending their hard-earned money in the middle of a semi-depression on extended magazines and semi-auto weapons of military utility just to turn them OVER to politicians after they ban them, or to turn them ON said politicians after they ban them?
William Jennings Bryan, my Lebanese-born, fully-Americanized Econ 101 professor at Franklin University in Columbus, Ohio, taught me that except in decisions involving love or sex that all economic transactions are rational.
Puzzle the rationality of that question --- turn them over, or turn them on?
The Clintonistas were frightened by the millions of rifles that were purchased in anticipation of the first AWB. The Obamanoids should be too.
Posted by Dutchman6 at 3:01 AM
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/01/over-or-on-question-for-politicians-of.html
Not another inch....
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I watched the YouTube video.... listened to the crap about "prolonged detention"... etc. But I must have missed something. When did he mention FEMA? I heard him mention Al-Qaeda, terrorists, acts of war, etc. I didn't hear anything about FEMA.
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I watched the YouTube video.... listened to the crap about "prolonged detention"... etc. But I must have missed something. When did he mention FEMA? I heard him mention Al-Qaeda, terrorists, acts of war, etc. I didn't hear anything about FEMA.
Supposedly FEMA has been building "Relocation Centers" for years, with the recent defense bill that authorizes the detention of US citizens with out trial "indefinitely" they have the legal mechanism to start filling them.
The "Camps" have been something of an urban legend for years, always 2nd or 3rd hand information or from doubtful sources like "PrisonPlanet" ," LewRockwell" or other tinfoil flakes, but the bill overturning the 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th Amendments is no Legend, it recently was passed as part of the "Defense Bill" that your Senator is probably bragging about supporting.
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This is the first I've heard of this speech. I don't watch anything Maddow haunts and I don't watch Obama but I whould've heard this somewhere before now..
Real report.. This is bad...
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I watched the YouTube video.... listened to the crap about "prolonged detention"... etc. But I must have missed something. When did he mention FEMA? I heard him mention Al-Qaeda, terrorists, acts of war, etc. I didn't hear anything about FEMA.
OK, so with a huge cake laced with arsenic and strychnine, you are worrying about the fly in the icing? Who cares if he said "FEMA" or not, he is justifying the incarceration of US citizens without cause or trial.
Remember, all of us on this board and many, many others are all terrorists in the eyes of the DHS. And that is today. Tomorrow, who knows, probably your kids are too since they live with a terrorist. Unless, of course, they are convinced to turn you in.
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Tomorrow, who knows, probably your kids are too since they live with a terrorist. Unless, of course, they are convinced to turn you in.
Picking my 17 year old "Proud Infidel" Son up tomorrow for Christmas break....He has explicit instructions, about several things, and knowing when to Initiate Plan B if something happens to me.
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/minuteman2.jpg)
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/M1Garand003.jpg)
and yes he knows every inch, inside and out, of that Garand, and how to shoot it.. ;) Although, he prefers my Sig 556.... 8)
Kids.... :P
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That's a great picture but a poor example of "Port Arms"!
;D
p.s. I had to hump an M1 for 10 weeks in Boot and we weren't even a rifle company! They were non-functional and had fully leaded barrels. Not exactly fun in the Orlando sun even in September, October...
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That's a great picture but a poor example of "Port Arms"!
Your correct.
My Grandfather's original Bluejackets Manual has a whole chapter dedicated, and I will "remind" him of this.. ;)
non-functional, and fully leaded barrels? For 10 weeks?,, gee,....that does really kinda suck... :-[
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And we had this DI Chief, a 5'4" peckerwood that carried one of this swizzle stick horse wacker things and would smack you on the fingers if they weren't in the correct position for each presentation! He actually broke a guys thumb one afternoon. We didn't see him much after that.
Darn thing weighed about 18 lbs. The rifle companies, the ones that train for exhibition, use a different rifle that's a bit lighter than a stock M1 but when they affix bayonets, things get serious!
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And we had this DI Chief, a 5'4" peckerwood that carried one of this swizzle stick horse wacker things and would smack you on the fingers if they weren't in the correct position for each presentation! He actually broke a guys thumb one afternoon. We didn't see him much after that.
Darn thing weighed about 18 lbs. The rifle companies, the ones that train for exhibition, use a different rifle that's a bit lighter than a stock M1 but when they affix bayonets, things get serious!
Went through basic with an M14.... Interesting that the Navy trains their personnel with small arms that don't work.
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Went through basic with an M14.... Interesting that the Navy trains their personnel with small arms that don't work.
What's even more interesting is that you probably went to basic in the 60's and used a more modern rifle than I did!
We never had to shoot more than a bolt action 22 lr. Had to know the 1911 inside out and backwards in the dark but we never were issued one.
My last doodie station in CA in the late 70's, we had to do a perimeter walk at night when we got stuck with sentry duty. We had no Marines to guard the base. They'd give us a 1911 with an empty magazine and an 870 riot gun with no shells. I found out why about two years ago. When they were building the secret base, one of the sentries guarding the front gate back in '57, an E2 or E3 carrying his personal sidearm, had identified the farmers prize bull as an invading Army and shot it deader than sh!t one night!
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Since when did this POS in the White House give a Hoot in Hell about the rule of law.This man,if I dare call him that is an absolute TRAITOR!The criminals that are up there allowing him to get away with this are TRAITORS as well.
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Went through basic with an M14.... Interesting that the Navy trains their personnel with small arms that don't work.
No surprise there, when the Navy actually WANTS people shot and stuff wrecked,
They call the Marines, that's our job description ;D
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Every now and then I will click on some youtube link for something entirely legit. And off to the right of the screen there will be a shadey video or two. I will click on that out of morbid curiosity. Then I realize I am in that part of the internet.
:o
Whoops!!
"How did I get here?"
I would like to find or get GPS coordinates just once for one of these alleged FEMA camps.
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... Who cares if he said "FEMA" or not ...
I asked about the FEMA reference because the topic's title included the acronym FEMA. Tom's explanation was helpful. Yours... not so much.
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The FEMA element is not new. Part of the Rex 84 Program, Ollie North knows a thing or to about it...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84
Rex 84, short for Readiness Exercise 1984, was a secretive "scenario and drill" developed by the United States federal government to suspend the United States Constitution, declare martial law, place military commanders in charge of state and local governments, and detain large numbers of American citizens who are deemed to be "national security threats", in the event that the President declares a "State of Domestic National Emergency". The plan states that events that might cause such a declaration would be widespread U.S. opposition to a U.S. military invasion abroad, such as if the United States were to directly invade Central America.[1][2][3][4][5][6] To combat what the government perceived as "subversive activities", the plan also authorized the military to direct ordered movements of civilian populations at state and regional levels.[7]
Rex 84 was written by Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, who was both National Security Council White House Aide, and NSC liaison to the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), and John Brinkerhoff, the deputy director of "national preparedness" programs for FEMA. They patterned the plan on a 1970 report written by FEMA chief Louis Giuffrida, at the Army War College,
Here's the new version:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Operation_Cable_Splicer
Operation Cable Splicer is a subprogram of the Rex 84 Program, which "was established on the reasoning that if a 'mass exodus' of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons."
Operation Cable Splicer is "the program for an orderly takeover of the state and local governments by the federal government. FEMA is the executive arm of the coming police state and thus will head up all operations. The Presidential Executive Orders already listed on the Federal Register also are part of the legal framework for this operation." [1]
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The Federal Register of Exec. Orders, goes back to JFK, in case of a "National Emergency",....the gov't can about do whatever the hell they want to state and local gov't, AND CIVILIANS in the name of security....
It's really not tin-foil hat.....It's buy more ammo and have a plan...
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I noticed that the justification for the actions allowed are civil unrest by citizens and massive invasion of foreign nationals....
And one of the greater powers bestowed is the take over of state and local governments by the feds....doesn't sound like a response to invaders or flash mobs and protesters.
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Can somebody, somewhere give me just one set of legitimate GPS coordinates to one of these supposed FEMA camps?
I did a bit of googling and all the GPS coordinates I get for supposed camps in Illinois are all just prison facilities already.
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http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_FEMA02.htm
More of what your looking for Tyler.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=118135173934136151745.00045bc25ee928a8872d0
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I live pretty close to Scott AFB near Belleville, IL...east of St. Louis.
Nope, no FEMA camps here.
all of the other locations here in southern IL...pfftt....they are already prisons.
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Yea, I checked the 3 sites in Wyoming. The Laramie one is in the center of town. I went to the University there, I promise, no camp there, unless they convert the football stadium. Lyman is possible, there is nothing there, and the Heart Mountain location. Those who remember WWII history will note that Heart Mountain was the site in Wyoming for the internment of Japanese citizens during the war. Sooooooo, it would be a good location since the infrastructure is already in place.
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if we are all whisked away to these FEMA camps, what is our government going to do when we are no longer supplying them with any income tax revenue?
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Could be a tin foil hat moment, akin to the "O" NO obama gun grab scare when ammo & guns sales were at ran all time high.
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Could be a tin foil hat moment, akin to the "O" NO obama gun grab scare when ammo & guns sales were at ran all time high.
They would have done all kinds of anti-gun legislation, but they didn't have the votes even with control of the Legislative and executive branches. What do you think "operation Gunwalker" was all about?
Head in the sand is much worse than wearing tin foil hats.