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Title: U.S. Patriot missiles found on a ship in Finland bound for China
Post by: Tyler Durden on December 22, 2011, 01:53:47 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16292244

I am going to the flea market this weekend.  If I spot an M1A1 Abrams tank, an F-15 fighter jet, or an AH-64 Apache helicopter gunship, any of ya'll want to go in "halves-ies" with me?

Title: Re: U.S. Patriot missiles found on a ship in Finland bound for China
Post by: Solus on December 22, 2011, 06:41:05 AM
Lets go for the Abrams.  We can split the cost 4 ways.  I have experience as Driver and Commander in tracked vehicles.

Lets hold off for the A3 model.  It is underdevelopment and should be available on the black market any time now.  :(
Title: Re: U.S. Patriot missiles found on a ship in Finland bound for China
Post by: Ichiban on December 22, 2011, 08:30:20 AM
You know we left a lot of equipment behind for the Iraqis.  It should start becoming available any day now.
Title: Re: U.S. Patriot missiles found on a ship in Finland bound for China
Post by: Pathfinder on December 22, 2011, 08:32:23 AM
And the Great 0Bama Giveaway continues unabated.   >:(
Title: Re: U.S. Patriot missiles found on a ship in Finland bound for China
Post by: JC5123 on December 22, 2011, 09:09:52 AM
I have always wanted an IAV Striker. We can pack in 8 of us, plus gear, it's street legal, and FAST!!!
Title: Re: U.S. Patriot missiles found on a ship in Finland bound for China
Post by: Pathfinder on December 22, 2011, 09:23:00 AM
If you can't afford to actually, ya know, BUY a tank, there is always this (BTW, I literally just ran across this - I had no clue). M58, you anywhere near Kosota, MN?

I found my Christmas present!!!!!!

http://money.cnn.com/video/smallbusiness/2011/12/07/sbiz_drive_a_tank_poppy.cnnmoney/ (http://money.cnn.com/video/smallbusiness/2011/12/07/sbiz_drive_a_tank_poppy.cnnmoney/)
Title: Re: U.S. Patriot missiles found on a ship in Finland bound for China
Post by: Solus on December 22, 2011, 09:31:26 AM
Hmm...that vehicle reminded me of one I only saw briefly.  

This was in 1968 in the month I was discharged from the Army.

It was a tracked reconnaissance vehicle that carried 3 crew.  Driver, Navigator/Commo Operator, and Gunner.

The gunner used a top mounted M2 in a turret that could be rotated 360, sighting out small ports with a sight mounted under the barrel...he basically sat under the gun.

I didn't see the specs or do more than sit it one, but it was said to have a top speed of 70 mph on open terrain.  That may have been the classified speed.

We got two of them into HHC of the 3rd Inf Div..  One had a turret that was rotated with manual cranks and the other had the turret electrically rotated.

I recall it was called the Shillelagh, as in the Irish fighting club, but I don't know any other name for it.

I've not been able to find any information on it and was wondering if anyone here might know something about it?
Title: Re: U.S. Patriot missiles found on a ship in Finland bound for China
Post by: Big Frank on December 22, 2011, 04:15:36 PM
The Shillelagh was a missile launched from a M551 Sheridan light tank. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M551_Sheridan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MGM-51_Shillelagh
Title: Re: U.S. Patriot missiles found on a ship in Finland bound for China
Post by: kmitch200 on December 22, 2011, 06:47:17 PM
Interior Minister Paivi Rasanen said the missiles were marked "fireworks".

A vast improvement over what I usually use on holidays. Then again, I don't have incoming missles in my neighborhood....yet.
Title: Re: U.S. Patriot missiles found on a ship in Finland bound for China
Post by: TAB on December 22, 2011, 10:33:52 PM
Interior Minister Paivi Rasanen said the missiles were marked "fireworks".

A vast improvement over what I usually use on holidays. Then again, I don't have incoming missles in my neighborhood....yet.


something tell me they won't get CAs stamp of "safe and sane" on them.
Title: Re: U.S. Patriot missiles found on a ship in Finland bound for China
Post by: MAUSERMAN on December 22, 2011, 10:40:57 PM
Hell I can always use a Hummer with a TOW launcher, and if you guys need a gunner I'll bring the beer. ;D
Title: Re: U.S. Patriot missiles found on a ship in Finland bound for China
Post by: Tyler Durden on December 23, 2011, 04:16:02 AM
whoops!

turns out those Patriot missiles were ours or are ours and we were shipping them to South Korea.

Yeah, my initial gut reaction was that they had somehow got on the black market and were being sold to China.

Title: Re: U.S. Patriot missiles found on a ship in Finland bound for China
Post by: Solus on December 23, 2011, 07:24:20 AM
The Shillelagh was a missile launched from a M551 Sheridan light tank. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M551_Sheridan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MGM-51_Shillelagh

That I've found by google...but the vehicle I sat in wasn't a missile or a Sheridan tank..  And it wasn't going to be a platform for the missile, which I considered, because it was to small..short..I was taller than it by bit..  It was a low slung track recon vehicle.  I might have the nickname wrong, but that is what I remember.  If you are interested in finding what vehicle I remember, search for something that matches the vehicle description rather than the name I remember...of course others interest won't be as peaked as mine  :D :D


P.S.  most of my interest is because I was told that it was capable of full maneuverability in open terrain at it's top speed of 70mph.
I had my doubts about that but wasn't an engineer.  I assumed the 70mph was a classified speed.  Wasn't any way to really research it till the Internet became available.

Title: Re: U.S. Patriot missiles found on a ship in Finland bound for China
Post by: fightingquaker13 on December 23, 2011, 01:04:55 PM
If you can't afford to actually, ya know, BUY a tank, there is always this (BTW, I literally just ran across this - I had no clue). M58, you anywhere near Kosota, MN?

I found my Christmas present!!!!!!

http://money.cnn.com/video/smallbusiness/2011/12/07/sbiz_drive_a_tank_poppy.cnnmoney/ (http://money.cnn.com/video/smallbusiness/2011/12/07/sbiz_drive_a_tank_poppy.cnnmoney/)

Good Lord! Sixty to eighty grand for a Chieftain? You can drop more than that on a Mercedes without breaking a sweat. And I'm willing to bet that if you're willing to break a few dozen laws and have a buddy that's good with tools, that that deactivated gun, well.......Are you listening BillT? Kilo? Heck, even minus the cannon, a couple of live .50 cals and I wouldn't want to be anywhere near it.
FQ13
Title: Re: U.S. Patriot missiles found on a ship in Finland bound for China
Post by: Big Frank on December 23, 2011, 02:07:32 PM
Solus your desription sounds more like an M114 variant than anything else I'm familiar with but the top speed is only half that. As far as I know it only has a model number and not a name. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M114_armored_fighting_vehicle
Title: Re: U.S. Patriot missiles found on a ship in Finland bound for China
Post by: fightingquaker13 on December 23, 2011, 03:51:08 PM
Hell I can always use a Hummer with a TOW launcher, and if you guys need a gunner I'll bring the beer. ;D
I'll bring the beer, you bring the ammo.
FQ13
Title: Re: U.S. Patriot missiles found on a ship in Finland bound for China
Post by: Pathfinder on December 23, 2011, 04:24:52 PM
whoops!

turns out those Patriot missiles were ours or are ours and we were shipping them to South Korea.

Yeah, my initial gut reaction was that they had somehow got on the black market and were being sold to China.



Well, hell, there goes a perfectly good conspiracy (theory).  >:(
Title: Re: U.S. Patriot missiles found on a ship in Finland bound for China
Post by: Solus on December 23, 2011, 08:01:31 PM
whoops!

turns out those Patriot missiles were ours or are ours and we were shipping them to South Korea.

Yeah, my initial gut reaction was that they had somehow got on the black market and were being sold to China.



I wonder???  does that make our drifts meaningless?

Title: Re: U.S. Patriot missiles found on a ship in Finland bound for China
Post by: Pathfinder on December 23, 2011, 08:06:17 PM
I wonder???  does that make our drifts meaningless?

Blasphemer!!!!!