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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: MikeBjerum on December 28, 2011, 01:20:12 PM
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This is the second such event in this south central Kansas city in a short time.
http://www.kansas.com/2011/12/27/2154601/the-impact-of-a-public-suicide.html#storylink=omni_popular (http://www.kansas.com/2011/12/27/2154601/the-impact-of-a-public-suicide.html#storylink=omni_popular)
Just last week I took our son who lives just north of Wichita and our son-in-law to this gun shop and range for a fun afternoon. We shopped guns and shot for over an hour. It is a terrific place with great people! When choosing the range we were going to go to the other one as a show of support because of what they were facing following the suicide there. However, our lunch plans lead us to this side of town.
I hope that through all the anti-gun and shooting noise that comes from this that the real focus will be on what caused these and not how they did it.
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The bottom line with instances like this is the same with almost anything else: You never know what's in another man's mind.
We can't predict the future or plan for what someone may do at any given time, so all we can do is prepare for a variety of things and roll with it as it unfolds.
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There was a rash of similar incidents in CA a few years back. Now all of the ranges that I have been to since that rent firearms will only let you rent if you are with at least one other person. Sad really.
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There was a rash of similar incidents in CA a few years back. Now all of the ranges that I have been to since that rent firearms will only let you rent if you are with at least one other person. Sad really.
All that will do is set up a murder/suicide instead of just a suicide.
Is that a cynical comment?
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It's happened a few times here as well. Same range too...they were eventually closed down!
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I work at a range where we rent guns. It has not happened since I have worked there (3 years) but it has happened once before I started. We do get phone calls now and then not to rent guns to so and so cause they are suicidal. It is a constant worry, and I honestly wish we did not rent out guns. It is just a pain in the butt, not to mention having to worry about things such as this.
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There was a rash of similar incidents in CA a few years back. Now all of the ranges that I have been to since that rent firearms will only let you rent if you are with at least one other person. Sad really.
its like that here now. it sucks.
I like to go to the pistol/rifle range by myself. Now the skeet/trap/sporting clays in groups
if they really want to kill themselfs, there are plenty of ways too do it. Most are extemely deadly and are house hold items that pretty much every one here has at home..
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There was a rash of similar incidents in CA a few years back. Now all of the ranges that I have been to since that rent firearms will only let you rent if you are with at least one other person. Sad really.
That's stupid. They should still rent to anyone who already owns a gun.
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That's stupid. They should still rent to anyone who already owns a gun.
The fact that it's pointless does not matter, what matters is that the politicians were seen to take an action.
No one bothers to follow the thought any further.
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This has happened at most of the indoor ranges around here in recent years. Some have had it happen several times. I don't think there is a hell of a lot you can do about it. This whole nonsense of not renting to a single individual is silly. Look at what happened to the mother and her son at that range in Florida. She shot him in the back of the head execution style, then offed herself. When someone is nuts you have no idea what they are going to do. These people seldom telegraph their goofy thought process.
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This has happened at most of the indoor ranges around here in recent years. Some have had it happen several times. I don't think there is a hell of a lot you can do about it. This whole nonsense of not renting to a single individual is silly. Look at what happened to the mother and her son at that range in Florida. She shot him in the back of the head execution style, then offed herself. When someone is nuts you have no idea what they are going to do. These people seldom telegraph their goofy thought process.
And that is it, in a tidy little nutshell.
In most instances, no one can predict what another person may or may not do from one minute to the next. That is why it perplexes me to no end why the anti's always want to hamstring the good gun owners for what some fringe idiot MAY or MAY NOT do.
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I'd rather have them shoot themselves than make a kamikaze attack on the highway and kill other people too.
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The bottom line with instances like this is the same with almost anything else: You never know what's in another man's mind.
We can't predict the future or plan for what someone may do at any given time, so all we can do is prepare for a variety of things and roll with it as it unfolds.
Very true....would the same things had been said if the person had gone to a gas station, doused himself & his vehicle with gas, and lit it?....
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Very true....would the same things had been said if the person had gone to a gas station, doused himself & his vehicle with gas, and lit it?....
Exactly the point.
Things like the gun range incident happen every day and we never hear about it because anything other than a gun was used.
A guy goes through a nasty divorce or loses his job and drives into a bridge abutment at 100+ mph and it's a "sad occasion" and everyone moves on. Same guy offs himself at a public shooting range and gun owners everywhere (along with ranges) are vilified in the media.
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I have to disagree with Peg in part.
When a guy flies his airplane into the house he just lost to his ex- wife it makes the papers too.
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I have to disagree with Peg in part.
When a guy flies his airplane into the house he just lost to his ex- wife it makes the papers too.
Well, yeah....an airplane....... ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D