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Title: Manhunt after ranger killed in national park
Post by: philw on January 02, 2012, 06:44:22 AM
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A MANHUNT is under way for a former Iraq war veteran who gunned down a mother-of-two park ranger and shot four others in a separate incident.
Margaret Anderson, 34, who was married to another park ranger, was gunned down on New Year's Day after setting up a roadblock to stop a driver who had failed to pull over when flagged by other rangers in Mount Rainier National Park.
The gunman, named last night as Benjamin Colton Barnes, 24, stepped out of the vehicle and opened fire with a shotgun.
It took authorities nearly 90 minutes to get to Mrs Anderson because Barnes continued to fire an assault rifle at SWAT team officers as they tried to assist her.
Barnes fled on foot into the wilderness where officers were tracking him through the snow. Police found weapons, body armour and survivalist gear in his vehicle.
He was already wanted for the shooting of four people about eight hours earlier at a party where police said an early-morning session of "show and tell" with guns among several armed partygoers ended with a shoot-out.
Witnesses told the police Barnes was asked to leave the party earlier in the night before returning and opening fire.
Barnes is reported to be a former soldier with previous run-ins with the law. He allegedly shot Anderson with a high-powered assault rifle before fleeing into the wilderness on foot around 6.11pm (AEDT) local time.
Nighttime temperatures below -1C were expected as law enforcement officers search the expansive 953 square-kilometre national park in Washington state, south of Seattle.
A car with weapons, body armour, and survivalist gear was discovered, although it was initially unclear if that car belonged to Barnes.
Law enforcement personnel have flooded the national park, centred on the spectacular snow-capped volcanic Mount Rainier, which is south of Skyway.
Park spokeswoman Lee Taylor told CNN about 85 visitors were being sheltered in the park visitors' centre until it was safe for them to evacuate.
The park, which had only just opened for New Year's Day, was immediately closed after the shooting.
A popular destination for hikers and outdoors enthusiasts, Mount Rainier National Park boasts miles of hiking trails offering spectacular vistas of the 4392-metre peak.


Read more: http://www.news.com.au/world/ranger-killed-in-us-national-park/story-e6frfkyi-1226235142514#ixzz1iIvbiWz7

not good at all... :(
Title: Re: Manhunt after ranger killed in national park
Post by: philw on January 02, 2012, 06:45:05 AM
also click on the link and look at the photos they used  ::)
Title: Re: Manhunt after ranger killed in national park
Post by: TAB on January 02, 2012, 07:04:43 AM
sucks, I hope they find him, but not right away.  About 4 days from now when all of his 21 digets are heavly frostbit and need to be removed.
Title: Re: Manhunt after ranger killed in national park
Post by: santahog on January 02, 2012, 11:13:24 AM
also click on the link and look at the photos they used  ::)
Goes to my assertion that the minimum age for service should be 21...
Just my opinion...
Title: Re: Manhunt after ranger killed in national park
Post by: JLawson on January 02, 2012, 12:02:34 PM
Is anyone familiar with the tattoos that he has?  Do they indicate any group affiliations?

Title: Re: Manhunt after ranger killed in national park
Post by: Ichiban on January 02, 2012, 01:36:11 PM
Is anyone familiar with the tattoos that he has?  Do they indicate any group affiliations?

They don't seem to have any central theme.  Must by part of the "drunken GI" gang.
Title: Re: Manhunt after ranger killed in national park
Post by: fightingquaker13 on January 02, 2012, 01:46:24 PM
sucks, I hope they find him, but not right away.  About 4 days from now when all of his 21 digets are heavly frostbit and need to be removed.
Agreed. "Hey guys he was spotted on FLIR, you want go in and pick up now"?
"Well, we could, but we've have leave this nice warm fire, and the coffee might get cold. Hey Steve, did you bring that new wolf call with you"? ;)
FQ13
Title: Re: Manhunt after ranger killed in national park
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 02, 2012, 01:57:53 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/authorities-body-believed-mt-rainier-shooting-suspect-151747393.html

Authorities Find Body Believed to Be Mt. Rainier Shooting Suspect

The man suspected of killing a ranger at Mount Rainier National Park in Washington State is believed to have been found dead, according to police.

Authorities located a body face-down in the snow without any identification, but believe it to be Benjamin Colton Barnes, 24, the sole suspect in Sunday's shooting, according to a Twitter posting from Washington State Patrol spokesman Guy Gill.

Barnes was being tracked by ground and aerial search crews for the shooting death of 34-year-old ranger Margaret Anderson, who tried to block his path when Barnes sped past a checkpoint in the park Sunday morning. Barnes fired shots at Anderson and another ranger before fleeing into the park's wilderness. The other ranger was not injured.

MORE AT LINK
Title: Re: Manhunt after ranger killed in national park
Post by: JLawson on January 02, 2012, 02:48:23 PM
And from this report...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/02/police-hunt-gunman-after-mount-rainier-national-park-ranger-shot-and-killed/ (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/02/police-hunt-gunman-after-mount-rainier-national-park-ranger-shot-and-killed/)

"Bill Wade, the outgoing chair of the Coalition of National Park Service Retirees, said Congress should be regretting its decision to allow loaded weapons in national parks. He called Sunday's fatal shooting a tragedy that could have been prevented. He hopes Congress will reconsider the law that took effect in early 2010, but doubts that will happen in today's political climate."

Typical moronic BS.

Title: Re: Manhunt after ranger killed in national park
Post by: fightingquaker13 on January 02, 2012, 03:06:48 PM
And from this report...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/02/police-hunt-gunman-after-mount-rainier-national-park-ranger-shot-and-killed/ (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/02/police-hunt-gunman-after-mount-rainier-national-park-ranger-shot-and-killed/)

"Bill Wade, the outgoing chair of the Coalition of National Park Service Retirees, said Congress should be regretting its decision to allow loaded weapons in national parks. He called Sunday's fatal shooting a tragedy that could have been prevented. He hopes Congress will reconsider the law that took effect in early 2010, but doubts that will happen in today's political climate."

Typical moronic BS.


Makes sense to me. After all the guy had only shot four people previously. If only there had been a no guns allowed sign, the senesless death of that ranger could easily have been prevented. ::)
FQ13
Title: Re: Manhunt after ranger killed in national park
Post by: TAB on January 02, 2012, 04:08:52 PM
lets not forget he was trying to set up a road block to catch teh sob... that had nothing to due with her getting shot... nothing what so ever.    ::)
Title: Re: Manhunt after ranger killed in national park
Post by: twyacht on January 02, 2012, 04:12:32 PM
Makes sense to me. After all the guy had only shot four people previously. If only there had been a no guns allowed sign, the senesless death of that ranger could easily have been prevented. ::)
FQ13

New Year Stunner!!!! :o


I AM IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH FQ!!!! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

 ;)

This Wade feller of Nat. Parks Retirees..... should move to Palm Beach, wear plaid slacks, pick up golf clubs and STFU...
Title: Re: Manhunt after ranger killed in national park
Post by: fightingquaker13 on January 02, 2012, 04:42:53 PM
New Year Stunner!!!! :o


I AM IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH FQ!!!! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

 ;)

This Wade feller of Nat. Parks Retirees..... should move to Palm Beach, Miami wear plaid slacks, pick up golf clubs and STFU...
FIFY. YOU live next door to the guy, don't send him to me. ;D
FQ13
Title: Re: Manhunt after ranger killed in national park
Post by: Solus on January 02, 2012, 06:01:58 PM
Sigh...why do they always want to make it complicated and controversial? 

You don't need to put up a anti-firearms sign and rile up the whole pro-gun citizenry...just put up a sigh that says   No Killing Part Rangers and everyone will be happy. 
Title: Re: Manhunt after ranger killed in national park
Post by: Timothy on January 02, 2012, 06:06:37 PM
Are the Rangers at Rainier armed?

The Rangers I saw today at Concords Minuteman National Park were not!  I was carrying a Sig Sauer and everyone went home safely!
Title: Re: Manhunt after ranger killed in national park
Post by: fightingquaker13 on January 02, 2012, 06:15:34 PM
Some do, some don't. The enforcement folks are federal agents, others are simply employees. Even then, who carries on any given day might be a matter of policy. Given that the woman was killed manning a roadblock, I'd bet she was armed.
FQ13
Title: Re: Manhunt after ranger killed in national park
Post by: MikeBjerum on January 02, 2012, 08:04:11 PM
And from this report...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/02/police-hunt-gunman-after-mount-rainier-national-park-ranger-shot-and-killed/ (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/02/police-hunt-gunman-after-mount-rainier-national-park-ranger-shot-and-killed/)

"Bill Wade, the outgoing chair of the Coalition of National Park Service Retirees, said Congress should be regretting its decision to allow loaded weapons in national parks. He called Sunday's fatal shooting a tragedy that could have been prevented. He hopes Congress will reconsider the law that took effect in early 2010, but doubts that will happen in today's political climate."

Typical moronic BS.



Bill Wade is 100% correct!!!  This guy was a law abiding citizen, and if the law had not allowed him to bring those guns into the National Park this never would have happened.

Title: Re: Manhunt after ranger killed in national park
Post by: mauler on January 02, 2012, 09:45:44 PM
The logical fallacies of people like this Wade douche are really unbelievable.  I mean, seriously, I'm sure that this homicidal/suicidal killer of several would have slammed on his brakes and turned his car around had he realized he was driving into a national park where guns are forbidden.  A 5th grader could see through such fantastic nonsense.  I think even the average American has largely woken up to the elementary propaganda being spewed forth by Wade and his cohorts. 
Title: Re: Manhunt after ranger killed in national park
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 02, 2012, 10:05:22 PM
Bill Wade is 100% correct!!!  This guy was a law abiding citizen, and if the law had not allowed him to bring those guns into the National Park this never would have happened.



Did you miss the part about him having fled a quadruple homicide ?
Last time I checked murder suspects weren't considered "law abiding" unless cleared by a jury.
Title: Re: Manhunt after ranger killed in national park
Post by: MikeBjerum on January 02, 2012, 10:21:58 PM
No Tom, you have it all wrong!

This guy was as innocent as the driven rain.  It's these stupid lax gun laws, or lack there of, that caused this poor soul to stumble.  All because of the outdated notion that we need to live in fear of the government and that we must protect ourselves that caused this brave young cherub to fall out of grace  :'(
Title: Re: Manhunt after ranger killed in national park
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 02, 2012, 10:48:45 PM
I did not realize you were giving him the "Holder defense".
Since the Ranger was a white women he may be a sexist but at least he isn't a racist.
Title: Re: Manhunt after ranger killed in national park
Post by: philw on January 02, 2012, 11:09:44 PM
always nice to here a happy ending to a tragic start...
Title: Re: Manhunt after ranger killed in national park
Post by: MikeBjerum on January 02, 2012, 11:53:50 PM
I did not realize you were giving him the "Holder defense".
Since the Ranger was a white women he may be a sexist but at least he isn't a racist.

You are trainable.  FEMA will be glad to add that to your file  :-\
Title: Re: Manhunt after ranger killed in national park
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 03, 2012, 09:30:43 AM
You are trainable.  FEMA will be glad to add that to your file  :-\

Maybe, then again, maybe I can just spew the answers they want to hear while keeping my own thoughts to myself.  ;D
Title: Re: Manhunt after ranger killed in national park
Post by: alfack on January 03, 2012, 10:34:28 AM
Damn. This happened in my back yard. When I was stationed at Ft. Lewis, we did winter survival training near there. I'm glad to see the douchebag perp must not have taken that training.
Title: Re: Manhunt after ranger killed in national park
Post by: fightingquaker13 on January 03, 2012, 12:33:03 PM
Damn. This happened in my back yard. When I was stationed at Ft. Lewis, we did winter survival training near there. I'm glad to see the douchebag perp must not have taken that training.
I am an expert at winter survival, as are all Floridians. All you need to know is two basic rules.
Never live somewhere it gets cold enough that you can die from going outside.
When it gets uncomfortably cold, like below 50 degrees, stay in house.
See, easy. ;D
FQ13
Title: Re: Manhunt after ranger killed in national park
Post by: MikeBjerum on January 03, 2012, 09:06:41 PM
I am an expert at winter survival, as are all Floridians. All you need to know is two basic rules.
Never live somewhere it gets cold enough that you can die from going outside.
When it gets uncomfortably cold, like below 50 degrees, stay in house.
See, easy. ;D
FQ13

FQ - If it involves sunscreen it ain't winter survival
Title: Re: Manhunt after ranger killed in national park
Post by: Tyler Durden on January 03, 2012, 09:29:45 PM
I think one time I was on the ski slopes for so long on a bright sunny day, that all the UV rays bounced up and burnt by nostrils...seriously...I wish I had put sunblock on the underside of my nose.
Title: Re: Manhunt after ranger killed in national park
Post by: Timothy on January 03, 2012, 09:32:17 PM
I think one time I was on the ski slopes for so long on a bright sunny day, that all the UV rays bounced up and burnt by nostrils...seriously...I wish I had put sunblock on the underside of my nose.

That happened to me at Park City about a hundred years before sunscreen.. 8)