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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: santahog on January 10, 2012, 01:13:30 PM
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I'm asking as a 2A, NRA Life Member, (lapsed) GOA member, Concealed Carry, et al advocate/practitioner, member of forums like this one, and in that respect, at least, not unlike you all here..
Why not Perry?..
The guy goes to the range to unwind and just as his hobby. He CCs everywhere he goes, because that's what he does, not because he's an elected, public figure.. Of the field, I don't think anybody comes close to his record on 2A issues. He doesn't lead with rhetoric. He leads with actions, both legislative and personal.
On this issue, Santorum isn't bad, but not as good as Perry, I don't think, because he doesn't carry as a rule that I know of.
RP? Who knows...
Huntsman says what he says but I don't see a guy who isn't going to compromise on liberty "for the sake of the greater/common good".
Gingrich talks a good game but he's not the guy who I can trust that 4 or 8 years after he takes office that I know that my liberty will be as intact/expanded as it was on Jan 20 2013.
Romney has a bad record on 2A. $100 per firearm, annualy in Mass, or you're a criminal who will go to jail/lose said firearms..
On the economic issues of the day, Perry is as good or better than any of the rest of them. TARP would never have happened under Perry. Trillion a pop Debt increases would never happen under Perry. Not even Gingrich can make me believe that he would never do that..
Paul, if he actually wanted the job, would let it explode and pretend that the carnage that followed didn't exist, from what I hear. Everything I hear him say kinda sounds like he'd pull the pin and walk away without evacuating the building. I've never heard him say anything about an orderly step back to whatever Ammendment he wants to strip it down to..
Without going on at length on the other stuff though, why not Perry, as gun guys, one and all..
Poorly worded and limited, but that's my question..
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Not arguing either but there is NO $100.00 fee per firearm in MA!
In fact, there are NO FEE's on firearms in MA at all to the consumer! There IS a $100.00 fee to renew your CC permit that's called an LTC here and that's for six (6) years. Other than the fee's associated with getting a firearm approved for sale here, there are NO fees on the consumer, period! I can buy out the entire gun store in the time it takes to fill out the paperwork!
Whomever made that statement, I think it was Newt, was blatantly wrong and he should fire that researcher!
I have no problem with Perry! I don't think he'll be the guy though...
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The Perry seen now, is not the one we witnessed early on....As much as I would vote for him, he kinda turned folks off saying he would send troops "back to Iraq"....Not a good move...IMHO...
The National scale of politics, exponentially outweigh the state level,...even by Texas standards....I think he stumbled one too many times.
Although, I like him, like what he stands for, as a gun owner, NRA member, CCW permit holder. The single digit polling is going to be tough to overcome....There needs to be a groundswell, and I haven't seen one.
I will hold out for optimism in SC....
Cause Florida is right after.
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I just watched the Huckabee (II) debate.. The forum is marginally better than the typical format but that's not my point..
I watched and Perry did as well as, or imo, better than anybody on stage.. He's a little goofy, but so are most folks, Businessmen, Pols and all..
It breaks my heart that the man seems to be done, and nobody much cares a whit who gets elected..
The man has joy in his heart, confidence in his ideas because he's proven each of them in real time himself, an attitude that about the office and himself that is pretty rare and needed..
Duncan Hunter all over again.. Good man, perfect for the job and nobody cares..
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The reason he sucked out in NH was because he didn't spend any time up here.
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I hope he tries again in a few years... after he takes a hard look at what he's done right and wrong this go around. He should spend the next four years studying and preparing for the national stage. He's certainly in the right place on the 2A.
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From today's MB Blog (http://michaelbane.blogspot.com/2012/01/great-read.html (http://michaelbane.blogspot.com/2012/01/great-read.html)):
"Saturday, January 14, 2012
Great Read...
...from American Digest (http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/5minute_arguments/conservatives_remain_the.php (http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/5minute_arguments/conservatives_remain_the.php))...please, take it to heart!
Yes, nothing is damaging the "Conservative Brand" lately more than the rolling stupidity that is lumping itself around the failure of the Republicans to come up with a viable candidate that is more "Conservative" than Mitt Romney. This "failure", which was predictable as long as four years ago, is causing many online 'conservatives to drop into premature political menopause with whining, hot flashes of anger, and the grinding of dull, old, axes. They are pissed, it would seem, because nobody other than Romney can carry the fight to Obama in the coming election. The more demented among them are declaring, shades of McCain/2008, that they will take their retracted balls and go home on election day rather than vote against Obama.
These people are deeply stupefied and confused. Ideology will do that to you. They seem to think, to actually believe, that this coming election is about only voting if you can vote for a candidate you like. Let me disabuse these kids of this silly notion right away. The election of 2012 ain't a conservative popularity contest. It's a war to, first, last, and always, destroy any possibility of a second term for Barack Hussain Obama.
Read the whole thing!
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Pink crayon, huh..
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Let me disabuse these kids of this silly notion right away. The election of 2012 ain't a conservative popularity contest. It's a war to, first, last, and always, destroy any possibility of a second term for Barack Hussain Obama.
I've been saying this for the last four to six months!
I've also been saying that it's not just the Presidential races, we need the House and the Senate as well! Don't lose sight of the target!
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Sooooo... Nobody echoing this article need participate in the primary process, Right?
Don't tell me to swallow and you expect me to come to you to do it.
You vote in a primary and you lie... You who stand and say eat it..
This annoys me.. I don't want to hear squat from you again till November.. You've made your choice.. Nod and smile.. I'm sure lemmings feel born to a noble cause.. Or do they act out of fear?..
I, on the other hand am some simpleton who plays with pink crayons and wants something other than what has been put in front of me to eat.. I fully expect to hear you all gloat over the wisdom of your choice in about 14 months from now..
Last time the politburo told me to fall in, we got marched over the cliff. Those who refused to do so salvaged a sliver of what some self appointed poet leader so dutifully gave away, (all at no cost to himself), two years later. I tell you once again. We tried it that way last time, (and in 92, and 86, and 76, and so on). This time I lead.. If I can be told to follow or die by some faceless idea of compromise, I can do so as well..
This time, I lead.. Choose accordingly.. Divided we fall, but I'm not moving... Give it another pull and see what gives.. I'm every bit as entitled to choose my own destiny as the writer is to choose yours..
Unhand my marbles. You said you're not playing today...
Pink crayons, my ass..
Back to you..
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I voted for Newt in the NH Primary, and I keep saying IN THE PRIMARY'S vote for the person you think will do the best job.
But since he has gotten endorsements from people ranging from jimmy carter to Ann Coulter I expect Romney to get the nomination.
In that case your choice in November is Romney or BO , a 3rd party vote is a vote for BO.
Any one who votes 3rd party, stays home, or votes for any Democrat deserves what they will get.
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I'm not speaking for everyone here but if there was really any better choice than this list of people, we'd all jump at the chance to get behind them.
The part of the article I took the most from, beside the last sentence, was that the GOP has lost it's way! The Conservative party needs to regroup and begin anew just as the socialists started at the turn of the 20th century! Until then, we're stuck with whomever we bring to the dance!
I'll still vote in the primary on principle and the general, out of desperation!
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One more time . . . .
From today's MB Blog (http://michaelbane.blogspot.com/2012/01/great-read.html (http://michaelbane.blogspot.com/2012/01/great-read.html)):
The election of 2012 ain't a conservative popularity contest. It's a war to, first, last, and always, destroy any possibility of a second term for Barack Hussain Obama.
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My response:
So....voting Romney so he can put a Souter or Kennedy on SCOTUS is morally superior HOW?....
Despite the MSM reports, the GOP primaries are far from over....and the SC primary will be a big indicator of who the solid red States will support. If Romney can't win it by a large margin, he won't stand a chance in the main election.
And, no....I will NOT vote for Romney in any election....I'll find a candidate that closest represents my positions....even if Obama gets a second term. I want the GOP to know what they have to do to get my vote back.....
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My response:
People with that attitude deserve 4 more years of BO.
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Having looked at all options, seeing none that appeal to me, I must go with ANYBODY BUT BHO
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I'll still vote in the primary on principle and the general, out of desperation!
Hell! That's how I've HAD to vote since 2004!
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Hell! That's how I've HAD to vote since 2004!
My first was 1976!
76 Ford fear
80 Reagan hope
84 Reagan real change
88 Bush more of the same
92 Bush desperation
96 Dole desperation
00 Bush desperation
04 Bush desperation
08 Palin ;) real pain to vote for McCain...
12 more of the same I'm afraid!
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People with that attitude deserve 4 more years of BO.
....and people who vote for Romney will probably get it.....