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Title: Sig Sauer ACP - Adaptive Carbine Platform
Post by: JLawson on January 16, 2012, 10:11:41 AM
I know... the subject includes "Carbine" and here I am in the Handguns area.  Well, I wasn't really sure where to put this thing.  It kinda fits in Handguns, in TR&C, and I guess in NFA as well.  This is a SHOT Show Sneak Peek from Tactical Gear Magazine.

Just take a look and you'll see what I mean.  Wherever it belongs, I would love to have one.



Title: Re: Sig Sauer ACP - Adaptive Carbine Platform
Post by: Magoo541 on January 16, 2012, 02:31:48 PM
The LE version is the only version that NFA rules would apply to, and probably the most useful.  I have seen other versions of a handgun/carbine adapter but this one looks promising because its universal.

Other than the LE version, and even then its still a pistol, I don't see much need for one in my arsenal although it would be cool in certain applicaions. 

I'm thinking a FN in 5.7 would be cool, with a silencer and red dot, for sage rats.
Title: Re: Sig Sauer ACP - Adaptive Carbine Platform
Post by: JLawson on January 16, 2012, 03:09:36 PM
If you attach a vertical foregrip, does it then become an AOW?  If so, I foresee a bunch of "inadvertent" felons.

Title: Re: Sig Sauer ACP - Adaptive Carbine Platform
Post by: langloisandy on January 16, 2012, 03:35:40 PM
Ya know, I am not seeing the attraction to this, nor the reason... if I going to have something shoulder fired, I sure as heck want it firing a rifle cartridge, not a pistola round! As a cop, I cannot see HOW this would be deployed, nor when!

Perhaps I am just a Naysayer who hates change!

;)

Andy
Title: Re: Sig Sauer ACP - Adaptive Carbine Platform
Post by: Big Frank on January 16, 2012, 04:01:38 PM
There must be some purpose for it but I don't see it. It's still just a pistol, but with extra weight added on. No thanks.
Title: Re: Sig Sauer ACP - Adaptive Carbine Platform
Post by: JLawson on January 16, 2012, 04:03:06 PM
Well, if you already have something like a Glock 17 and some 33-round magazines, then you're not too far away from having a "PDW-like" setup.  Add the sling and optic and maybe you would have something useful for executive protection.

It provides the option for multiple accessories - light, laser, and optics at the same time.  And because all of the accessories ride the ACP and not the pistol, then setting up with a differenct weapon is a snap - just check your zero and go.

It will be interesting to see how Sig Sauer markets the ACP.

Title: Re: Sig Sauer ACP - Adaptive Carbine Platform
Post by: Big Frank on January 16, 2012, 04:06:07 PM
IMO something that handles like a carbine should have a carbine length barrel to get carbine ballistics which would give you about 1/3 more energy depending on caliber.
Title: Re: Sig Sauer ACP - Adaptive Carbine Platform
Post by: twyacht on January 16, 2012, 04:31:43 PM
Ya know, I am not seeing the attraction to this, nor the reason... if I going to have something shoulder fired, I sure as heck want it firing a rifle cartridge, not a pistola round! As a cop, I cannot see HOW this would be deployed, nor when!

Perhaps I am just a Naysayer who hates change!

;)

Andy

Uh, Tommy Gun?  ;D Some had shoulder stocks, some had just a pair of grips... Although this seems like a novelty, tacticool...
Title: Re: Sig Sauer ACP - Adaptive Carbine Platform
Post by: Fiveofclubs on January 16, 2012, 07:03:13 PM
Ya know, I am not seeing the attraction to this, nor the reason...
I'm with you there, but maybe it's just you and me.  I see that as trying to compete with the P90, but that as the advantage (ballistically) of 5.7?

Certainly looks cool and might be fun to shoot for a day.
Title: Re: Sig Sauer ACP - Adaptive Carbine Platform
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 16, 2012, 07:35:28 PM
Looks like a waste of money to double the weight of your pistol.
They already have an NFA device that does all that, in better calibers it's called a SBR.
Note that the round used to release the rear is not a pistol round.