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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: MikeBjerum on April 05, 2008, 01:22:51 PM
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It is a beautiful day out, but I am tied to the home office for the weekend. So, I decided to clean the gun room. As I sorted, rearranged, dusted, and scratched my head I had a question:
What restrictions do the general public (assuming this group could be considered part of the general population) need to be aware of in regards to personal ammo? Do we currently have any restrictions on volume or storage practices?
I know from time to time ammo is addressed by the "anti's" when they can't move quick enough on guns, but I have lost track of what might be in place already. I assume I'm legal, but when you live by the motto that "you can never have too much ammo" it kinda gets away from you. I do know that the media would need anti-seizure medication (pun not intended, but I do like it) if I was ever arrested and my stock inventoried.
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Federally no quantity restrictions or storage requirements of which I am aware.
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Haz, Haz, Haz, :( You forgot Good Ole Title 18, USC, Section 929(a)(1), possession of a firearm loaded with armor piercing ammo during a Federal crime of violence or drug trafficking offense. Can't believe you forgot THAT one!
Mac.
ps. blackpowder does have Federal storage restrictions though. DMc.
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Haz, Haz, Haz, :( You forgot Good Ole Title 18, USC, Section 929(a)(1), possession of a firearm loaded with armor piercing ammo during a Federal crime of violence or drug trafficking offense. Can't believe you forgot THAT one!
Mac.
ps. blackpowder does have Federal storage restrictions though. DMc.
That's why I said quantity and did not touch the 'type' area. (http://www.mazeguy.net/silly/neenerneener.gif)
And he said ammo not components. SO THERE! (http://www.mazeguy.net/silly/raspberry.gif)
;D
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Got me! ;D What I get for tryin to be a smart a$$.
Mac.
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It is a beautiful day out, but I am tied to the home office for the weekend. So, I decided to clean the gun room. As I sorted, rearranged, dusted, and scratched my head I had a question:
What restrictions do the general public (assuming this group could be considered part of the general population) need to be aware of in regards to personal ammo? Do we currently have any restrictions on volume or storage practices?
I know from time to time ammo is addressed by the "anti's" when they can't move quick enough on guns, but I have lost track of what might be in place already. I assume I'm legal, but when you live by the motto that "you can never have too much ammo" it kinda gets away from you. I do know that the media would need anti-seizure medication (pun not intended, but I do like it) if I was ever arrested and my stock inventoried.
Well, are you still burning off your stock pile from Y2K?
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No, it's not Y2K supply. I'm not smart enough to buy when cheap. I just buy when I can find and have the cash. Now adays I buy everything I can afford, because it's only going one way for the foreseeable future.
Did I forget to mention the ... ummmm ... ahhhh, I've got some black bottles and black kegs of ... ummmm ... ahhhhhh .... something.
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No, it's not Y2K supply. I'm not smart enough to buy when cheap. I just buy when I can find and have the cash. Now adays I buy everything I can afford, because it's only going one way for the foreseeable future.
Did I forget to mention the ... ummmm ... ahhhh, I've got some black bottles and black kegs of ... ummmm ... ahhhhhh .... something.
I gotta get me some of them black bottles and kegs of ... ummmm ... ahhhhhh .... something. I'll keep 'em in a locked steel cabinet in the garage I think, off the floor.
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I gotta get me some of them black bottles and kegs of ... ummmm ... ahhhhhh .... something. I'll keep 'em in a locked steel cabinet in the garage I think, off the floor.
With LOTS of desicant.
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With LOTS of desicant.
Nope, won't need, it, have an awesome propane heater that should just do the trick!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Nope, won't need, it, have an awesome propane heater that should just do the trick!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
UHHHHHH... not too near the 'kegs' i hope ! ?
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Just a note. We had to let a guys house burn down a few years ago because of ammo going off. He lived in the country, we had to stay a 1/2 mile away till the pops stoped for awhile. He had about 8000 rounds go up in flames. :'(
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Lucy, you got some splainin to do to the insurance company :o
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Nope, won't need, it, have an awesome propane heater that should just do the trick!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Repeat, LOTS of desicant, you need it DRY, in the summer as well
Never mind, I just checked your location, dry and summer kind of go hand in hand don't they ;D
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Chances are, your local hazmat/ fire codes are the ones you have to worry about.
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Nope, won't need, it, have an awesome propane heater that should just do the trick!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
So you're the one responsible for Johnsons going up in smoke ;D
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Just a note. We had to let a guys house burn down a few years ago because of ammo going off. He lived in the country, we had to stay a 1/2 mile away till the pops stoped for awhile. He had about 8000 rounds go up in flames.
OK, I'm confused. What kind of ammo? Really, REALLY big stuff that goes BOOM when it hits the target or small arms ammo?
Small arms ammo won't even penetrate an old set of turnouts let alone need a 1/2 mile buffer.
CHAMBERED AMMO COOKING OFF IS A WHOLE 'NUTHER DEAL! Was that the problem?
I've been in the same room with rifle and pistol ammo cooking off - lots of it - it's no big deal. It can't build up pressure and can't direct the pressure it has in anything but the path of least resistance, which usually results in a hunk of brass flying that won't even crack your facepiece.
Did onscene command wet themselves unnecessarily?
(The grenade factory going up in smoke was...interesting)
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Ok, it was a joke.
I know desiccants are necessary, here in the eastern part of ND especially, more humid than in the central or western parts I used to live in.
No propane in the new house, all electric, just to calm the fears.
Of course, if the power is out and I want to reload, I could always use a match to check the bottle and keg labels right??
It's a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And no, had nothing to do with Johnson's. Did not even know about that one. Is that the wrecking yard on old 10 west of Mandan?
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Cookie,
What was up that kept you so far away?
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Hey, SOME ammo, and those supposedly responsible for it, needs restrictions!
Raleigh News & Observer.
Posted: Feb. 21, 2008
Updated: Feb. 22, 2008
Sanford, N.C. — A fourth man has been detained in connection with the discovery last week of military explosives at a Raleigh scrap-metal recycling plant, police said Thursday.
Manuel Sanchez Uriosteget was being held by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents, said Capt. David Smith, of the Sanford Police Department.
Almost three dozen military explosives were found and detonated at Raleigh Metals Recycling last week. Plant owner Greg Brown said a customer sold the munitions to the plant with other scrap metal, and his workers didn't recognize them as live ammunition.
Two workers sustained minor injuries when one of the shells exploded as a load of scrap was being processed, and a team of munitions experts from Fort Bragg detonated other devices over the next four days.
The process forced nearby residents from their homes and required a portion of Garner Road to be shut down for much of the week.
Uriosteget lives in the same mobile home park as Adrian Nunez-Aviles and brothers Javier Gomez-Urieta and Salvador Gomez-Urieta, who were arrested a week ago on immigration violations and have been held for questioning in the munitions case.
A search last week of a mobile home on Carver Drive in Sanford turned up artillery shells in the yard similar to the ones that were dropped off at Raleigh Metals Recycling, including two live rounds.
A search of Uriosteget's trailer also turned up ammunition, Smith said. Investigators located anti-tank weapons, spent 2-millimeter(?) shells and .50-caliber bullets in a yard at the trailer park, he said.
The FBI and the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives also are investigating the case.(So we can rest easy now)
Mac.
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Ok, it was a joke.
I know desiccants are necessary, here in the eastern part of ND especially, more humid than in the central or western parts I used to live in.
No propane in the new house, all electric, just to calm the fears.
Of course, if the power is out and I want to reload, I could always use a match to check the bottle and keg labels right??
It's a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And no, had nothing to do with Johnson's. Did not even know about that one. Is that the wrecking yard on old 10 west of Mandan?
Wiley Coyote, Super genius, I like the sound of that ;D
Seriously, I did not know there were parts of the Dakotas that had humidity, Of course I also didn't know that the eastern part of Texas is BIG TIME logging country until I happened to go through there once, My first thought as I crossed the La. state line was "Where's all the cattle and desert?" Live and learn ;D
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Wiley Coyote, Super genius, I like the sound of that ;D
Seriously, I did not know there were parts of the Dakotas that had humidity, Of course I also didn't know that the eastern part of Texas is BIG TIME logging country until I happened to go through there once, My first thought as I crossed the La. state line was "Where's all the cattle and desert?" Live and learn ;D
Eastern Dakotas - both of them - are very different than the rest of the state. Flat land mostly, and close enough to the rest of the midwest to have a different ecology - farmland, not cattle too. Even the two-legged denizens are different over here - more urban, I think they are the ones who keep sending our idiot liberal congress-mopes back election after election.
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Eastern Dakotas - both of them - are very different than the rest of the state. Flat land mostly, and close enough to the rest of the midwest to have a different ecology - farmland, not cattle too. Even the two-legged denizens are different over here - more urban, I think they are the ones who keep sending our idiot liberal congress-mopes back election after election.
Thats interesting, as it happens I'm currently reading a biography of TR who had 2 ranches on the Little Missouri river.
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He had a lot of loaded 50 cal, and shotgun ammo. Plus he was a avid reloader, several kegs of asst. powders. 1/2 mile might of been over kill, but there were some pretty big booms going off when we got there.
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Thats interesting, as it happens I'm currently reading a biography of TR who had 2 ranches on the Little Missouri river.
Waaaayyyyyy out in the western part, near Medora, the Badlands, rough country.
Two little known Dakota facts - George Armstrong Custer rode out on his one-way ride in June of 1876 from Ft. Abraham Lincoln, just a few miles south of Mandan, across the river from Bismarck. And a Bismarck Tribune reporter was one of those killed in the fight.
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To reply to the original question, I have heard of no Federal restriction on loaded ammunition, but there is a powder restriction. Also there may be, like here in Texas, a black powder restriction as it is indeed an explosive, I'm not talking about black powder substitutes. These restrictions could be local, and their storage may have restrictions such as " can only be stored in an explosion or fire proof container" defined by somebody.
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Waaaayyyyyy out in the western part, near Medora, the Badlands, rough country.
Two little known Dakota facts - George Armstrong Custer rode out on his one-way ride in June of 1876 from Ft. Abraham Lincoln, just a few miles south of Mandan, across the river from Bismarck. And a Bismarck Tribune reporter was one of those killed in the fight.
He first arrived before Medora was a town, He arrived in the "town" of Little Missouri which was across the river. They were just finishing the slaughter house, It also mentions that he probably knew De Mores wife when they were growing up.
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He had a lot of loaded 50 cal, and shotgun ammo. Plus he was a avid reloader, several kegs of asst. powders. 1/2 mile might of been over kill, but there were some pretty big booms going off when we got there.
Gotcha...the loaded ammo wouldn't have been the biggie. The kegs of powder would have gotten the lions share of attention, esp. if they were stored in a type of locker/magazine that wanted to build up pressure before it let go.
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Wiley Coyote could get "ANYTHING" from ACME Corp. Including the famous pre-Brady Rocket propelled sled with Bazooka launcher.
Where's ACME when you need them?
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Wiley Coyote could get "ANYTHING" from ACME Corp. Including the famous pre-Brady Rocket propelled sled with Bazooka launcher.
Where's ACME when you need them?
Clinton banned their products. >:(