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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: twyacht on February 25, 2012, 07:55:20 PM
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This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!
(Sounds like a Brady Bunch Dream doesn't it?, a Liberal Nirvana with Unicorns and Fluffy White Clouds, of Kumbaya and "Social Justice")..
(Perhaps a Bloomberg, Schumer, Feinstien, ideology?)
Keep remembering who might have thought such grandiose ideals of a "peaceful nation" where we " all have skin in the game for we are all paying our fair share", and the gov't knows what's best.
Still Guessing????????
Still??????
~ Adolph Hitler [1935] The Weapons Act of Nazi Germany
Remember, and...Resist....
"Remember that Jefferson told us that the Second Amendment would not be needed until they tried to abolish it. There are people who have that in mind right now. The personal ownership and usage of firearms is not a common aspect of today's culture worldwide. It is up to Americans - those who know what it means to be an American - to uphold the light of liberty in the face of those both here and elsewhere who would extinguish it. We see the hysterics who feel that the abolition of firearms would bring about major changes in the human psyche, and that crime would disappear. We cannot reason with these people because they are impervious to reason, but we can expose them to ridicule and frustrate their political clout. That is a job not just for the National Rifle Association, but for everyone. If you want to make a resolution for the coming century, resolve to do something in defense of liberty every day, and by liberty, of course, we mean true liberty - the right to keep and bear arms. Without that liberty all other liberties are meaningless."
Col. Jeff Cooper
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This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!
Sorry, TW. This is one of the Pious Quotes. One which we wish were so, but is totally false. It doesn't stand the test of time or facts. The FAQs and threads in both talk.politics.guns and RKBA.org have more details as do many other fact-checking web sites.
Let me offer as a condolence this verifiable quote, which I think applies to many currently running our government at this time:
"The man of system, on the contrary, is apt to be very wise in his own conceit; and is often so enamoured with the supposed beauty of his own ideal plan of government, that he cannot suffer the smallest deviation from any part of it. He goes on to establish it completely and in all its parts, without any regard either to the great interests, or to the strong prejudices which may oppose it. He seems to imagine that he can arrange the different members of a great society with as much ease as the hand arranges the different pieces upon a chess–board." Adam Smith - 1759, The Theory of Moral Sentiments.
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perhaps in context alf,...but we can review....
http://www.fdrs.org/quotes_of_gun_control.html
"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing."
- Adolf Hitler
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Weapons_Law
German Weapons Law
On November 11, 1938, the Minister of the Interior, Wilhelm Frick, passed Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons. This regulation effectively deprived all Jews of the right to possess firearms or other weapons.
Source: http://www.stephenhalbrook.com/article-nazilaw.pdf
Perhaps more,...
“Those now possessing weapons and ammunition are at once to turn them over to the local police authority. Firearms and ammunition found in a Jew’s possession will be forfeited to the government without compensation. Whoever willfully or negligently violates the provisions will be punished with imprisonment and a fine.” - Nazi Law (Regulations Against Jews’ Possession of Weapons), 1938
You are correct in the Cramer research, however, the fruitful end of a disarmed population remained,....especially if a Jew.
"The laws adopted by the Weimar Republic intended to disarm Nazis and Communists were sufficiently discretionary that the Nazis managed to use them against their enemies once they were in power." In other words, they didn't need to pass additional laws. The Nazis did pass a weapons law in 1938, but that only added restrictions to the previous law, especially for Jews and other "non-citizens."
Cramer further noted that although gun control laws helped the Nazis suppress political dissidents and round up German Jews for extermination, "they weren't the major part of the process." Later, when they invaded Eastern Europe, Cramer says the Nazis did indeed benefit from the inability of their victims to fight back. But that is tangential to the (un)reality of this quote.
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To each the same end applies...
"It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once. Slavery has so frightful an aspect to men accustomed to freedom, that it must steal in upon them by degrees and must disguise itself in a thousand shapes in order to be received."
David Hume,1742
Thank you for the correction,...but the premise remains.
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,...but the premise remains.
Agreed.
Working on Mark Levin's book, Ameritopia. One basic point is that in the "utopia" of progressives, individual rights will remain only as long as they further the goals of the statists.
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Ok, who said... "Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest"
That one may say more for the 2nd amendment than any other...
And that today "In a comparison of the number of privately owned guns in 178 countries, India ranked at No. 2" Link (http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/india)
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Mahatma Gandhi, from Gandhi, An Autobiography
Some believe, however, he was referring to military arms and not personal firearm ownership. But I'll take it anyway.
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Mahatma Gandhi, from Gandhi, An Autobiography
Some believe, however, he was referring to military arms and not personal firearm ownership. But I'll take it anyway.
Gahndi's other writings made it plane that his reference was to civilian arms. Under the Raj the Indian military did not lack for arms so the allegation that that was his meaning is pure and total BS.
Kind of like saying the 2nd A is intended for the National Guard and Army.