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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Solus on March 14, 2012, 10:01:25 AM
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Frightening is the sick devotion to this sham.
The only positive is that they flew it below the US Flag.
American flag with President Obama's image sparks outrage at Florida Democrats
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/14/us-flag-depicting-president-obama-removed-from-floridas-lake-county-democratic/
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I do believe that altering the Flag of the United States of America in that manor breaks flag etiquette. I need to go to the website and check it out, but Pres. BHO has gone too far once again >:( However, he has gone too far so many times he has no idea he is doing it anymore.
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I hope there's a Youtube video of someone tearing this disgrace down and stomping it into the mud!!!!!
However, he has gone too far so many times he has no idea he is doing it anymore.
And he couldn't care less even if he did know.
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It's just possible that this is another deliberate attempt to get the "right" to focus on something that has little impact in the overall history of our Nation while diverting attention away from the fact that Odamna is trying to turn us into the European socialist model.
Odamna has been such an extremist mess for so long that this is hardly a blip.
Wrong? YES!
Important? Not so much.
I had so much hope when the Republicans began the campaign season. That has been effectively reduced with each passing day. The Republicans look like petulant children with no real leadership. As a result, we will field another non-starter (a la McCain) and likely get 4 more years of the current disaster.
I weep for my Nation.
Crusader
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Flag_Code
The flag should never be used for any advertising purpose. It should not be embroidered, printed, or otherwise impressed on such articles as cushions, handkerchiefs, napkins, boxes, or anything intended to be discarded after temporary use. Advertising signs should not be attached to the staff or halyard.
The flag should never have placed on it, or attached to it, any mark, insignia, letter, word, number, figure, or drawing of any kind.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Flag_Code
The flag should never be used for any advertising purpose. It should not be embroidered, printed, or otherwise impressed on such articles as cushions, handkerchiefs, napkins, boxes, or anything intended to be discarded after temporary use. Advertising signs should not be attached to the staff or halyard.
The flag should never have placed on it, or attached to it, any mark, insignia, letter, word, number, figure, or drawing of any kind.
That is the section I had in mind. Thanks Tom!
I know it is free speech and flag etiquette is not law, but he IS the President of the United States of America, and that brings a level of responsibility with it.
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That is the section I had in mind. Thanks Tom!
I know it is free speech and flag etiquette is not law, but he IS the President of the United States of America, and that brings a level of responsibility with it.
Actually it IS law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Flag_Code
It is Chapter 1 of Title 4 of the United States Code (4 U.S.C. § 1 et seq). This is a U.S. federal law,
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Not to pick a nit but this is NOT the Flag of the United States of America.
It's a facsimile that contains red and white stripes with a blue field containing ANYTHING BUT A STAR or any facsimile to a star!
Replace the Asshat in Chiefs face with a hammer and sickle and you have pretty much the same thing!
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Not to pick a nit but this is NOT the Flag of the United States of America.
It's a facsimile that contains red and white stripes with a blue field containing ANYTHING BUT A STAR or any facsimile to a star!
Replace the Asshat in Chiefs face with a hammer and sickle and you have pretty much the same thing!
Go ahead, it's what nits are for ;D
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Here is the part that frosts me
"Hurlbert said Tuesday's incident was the first time anyone had complained about the flag, which she received as a gift two months ago.
"It leads me to believe that it's not about the flag," she told FoxNews.com. "Certain elements cannot accept Barack Obama as president."
Let's play the race card! Those rednecks can't be just POd at the disrespect to the Flag it has to be because Obummer is black!
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Consistency counts: It has been flying for several months, but she only received it two months ago ???
She is contacting an attorney for the ok to fly it again. Now that is a great way to win votes! Go ahead Pres. BHO and let this one hit the media as you are trying to keep your office.
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Here is the part that frosts me
Let's play the race card! Those rednecks can't be just POd at the disrespect to the Flag it has to be because Obummer is black!
Well, on that same point of logic, a flag with W's picture in place of the star field WOULD be something to get upset about because that would not be racist.
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http://spectator.org/blog/2009/08/05/ridiculing-bush-cool-ridiculin
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It's just possible that this is another deliberate attempt to get the "right" to focus on something that has little impact in the overall history of our Nation while diverting attention away from the fact that Odamna is trying to turn us into the European socialist model.
I alternate between that POS POTUS and his ilk either trying to goad people into a civil war with their blatantly corrupt, illegal, unconstitutional and racist actions, and them rubbing our noses in the fact that they are dismantling this country on our watch and right in plain sight no less - and as Tom noted on another thread no one is doing a damn thing about it.
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That is one flag I would love to wipe my ass with!
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As bad as obama is we have some liberal idiots that would still vote for him and I call BS on those
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As bad as obama is we have some liberal idiots that would still vote for him and I call BS on those
You really don't get it.
He will probably be reelected.
It's not "some liberal idiots", it's the majority of the country.
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He may get re-elected true!
But, it's not the left or the right that elect Presidents! Lefties will nearly always vote for the DNC and righties will nearly always vote for the GOP! It's the moderates and independents that are the swing and in those two groups, he's lost some of his edge.
Remain vigilant and convince as many as you can to re-think what we've gone through in the last three years.
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You really don't get it.
He will probably be reelected.
It's not "some liberal idiots", it's the majority of the libtard voters, cemetery residents, and illegals in this country.
FIFY
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You really don't get it.
He will probably be reelected.
Not a chance in hell, or we will be there soon enough. Even with 51% democrats in polling pools he barely has a favorable rating.
EDIT: I totally missed the racial aspect, they have Obama swinging on a rope from a pole! IN THE SOUTH! HOME OF THE CONFEDERACY!
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You guys ever notice when you watch the news about some third wold dictator, that his picture is on all the buildings. They will be in every ones homes and in all the local shops. The whole scared population acts like hes god. There are statues of the thug dictator all through the contry and shrines to him. This seems like one of those things to me. I didn't mind the christmas ornaments (hehehehe) but the flag is another matter. Starting to give me the creeps. The proverbial poo seems to be lining up with the fan.
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You guys ever notice when you watch the news about some third wold dictator, that his picture is on all the buildings. They will be in every ones homes and in all the local shops. The whole scared population acts like hes god. There are statues of the thug dictator all through the contry and shrines to him. This seems like one of those things to me. I didn't mind the christmas ornaments (hehehehe) but the flag is another matter. Starting to give me the creeps. The proverbial poo seems to be lining up with the fan.
There was a time in the United States when many businesses and families had photos of the President on the wall. However, it was done out of honor and respect. Unlike BHO who put his on the flag in place of (above as in more important than) the fifty states.
Please don't give me any crap that this was a promotion or third party and Pres. BHO was not a part of it. His image, he is the leader of the DFL, the buck stops with him!
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There was a time in the United States when many businesses and families had photos of the President on the wall. However, it was done out of honor and respect. Unlike BHO who put his on the flag in place of (above as in more important than) the fifty states.
Please don't give me any crap that this was a promotion or third party and Pres. BHO was not a part of it. His image, he is the leader of the DFL, the buck stops with him!
You're definitely confused.
It was Democrat citizen of the US that said that.
I don't think it applies to a communist citizen of the World.
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You know, the quickest way to put a stop to this is to post a pic of the flag, (or put the flag up on a rope) with the caption "We finally got this sob on the end of a rope", or words to that effect..
This is a good write up on it..
http://mychal-massie.com/premium/democrat-party-headquarters-flies-us-flag-with-obamas-face-on-it/
There are a lot of things that I never thought I would see in my lifetime. I never thought I would see women boasting and celebrating their experience of being impaled by a vacuum hose – and then have their baby and womb sucked into a canister, to be dumped into a medical waste dumpster. I never thought I would see so-called men proudly french-kissing and groping one another in public. I never in my right mind thought America would have a Communist leading our nation. I never thought that the first person of color elected to occupy the White House, would be as loathsome and base as this person has turned out to be – who is surpassed only by his wife and Nancy Pelosi for commonality. And it is for darn sure that I never thought there would come a day in America, when the face of an avowed socialist would replace the stars that represent the 50 states on our National Flag, with the face of Barack Obama.
That’s right, Obama’s face replaced the stars on an American flag flying over the Lake County Democrat headquarters in Tavares, Florida. A subscriber to my daily alerts brought it to my attention, I have included the full article below. But back to the point at hand – no president in history of the world, save those who coin money with their images on it, have had their faces displayed on their national flag of their country.
Nancy Hurlbert, chairman of Lake County Democrat Party, claims the flag was a gift. She said: “We are proud of our president, we’re proud of the United States, and we felt it was time to display that.” Fortunately, several veterans did not see it that way. They protested the abomination that the Democrat Party was flying directly under our National Flag. While the Obama national flag was removed without incident, Hurlbert did threaten the veterans with arrest if they stepped on the property.
Not only was the flag in violation of the federal flag code, Obama’s face on the our national flag is an affront to the men and women who sacrificed their bodies and those who gave their lives for our flag to fly proudly over our nation. It was the blatant single-finger salute to those who gave their lives for our freedoms – the very same freedoms that Obama has said he wants to strip us of.
For those of us who were born here or who are here legally, and value what it means to have freedoms guaranteed us by the Constitution – this is the latest assault on our nation by socialists. That they were brazen enough to publicly display and proclaim their allegiance to their envisioned “national republic of Obama,” is emblematic of his narcissistic socialism destroying our nation. He pledged to his followers that he would “fundamentally change” America and his arrogant, haughty wife is proud of the country now that she can comport herself as a queen at taxpayer’s expense. We reluctantly stomach their presence, as we work to remove them and their kind from from public office – but, we will not stomach them desecrating our flag and defecating on the memory of those who paid the price for people like Obama, to not be treated as they treat would be dictators in Communist countries.
Please read the following article, and when you are finished, if you share my outrage take a moment to write, call, fax, email, the Lake County Democrat headquarters and the White House. Please do not threaten or use vulgarity, but let both Obama and this Democrat headquarters know that this is America. We are one nation under God, not under Obama and we will not forget their desecrating our flag, by putting his face on it, come November. Please share this rant and this article with all of your social network friends and email contacts. Ask those with whom you share this to forward it to their friends. This needs to go viral, we need to bring this to the attention of every true Patriot. Your help is needed.
Dems entangled in Obama flag flap
http://www.dailycommercial.com/News/LakeCounty/031412flag
Published: Wednesday, March 14, 2012
TAVARES
Theresa Campbell | Staff Writer
theresacampbell@dailycommercial.com
President Obama’s face in place of stars on an American flag flying at Lake County Democratic Headquarters in Tavares irked a group of veterans on Tuesday, who found themselves engaged in a verbal confrontation and the threat of police action when they requested the flag be taken down.
The matter was resolved peacefully when Democratic party officials removed the flag.
The Obama flag had been flowing for two months underneath an American flag before it was noticed by the veterans, who argued that it was a desecration of the flag and in violation of three codes passed by Congress about displaying the American flag.
“We were given this as a gift,” said Nancy Hurlbert, chairwoman of the Lake County Democratic Party. “We are proud of our president, we’re proud of the United States, and we felt it was time to display that.”
Leesburg veteran Jim Bradford recalled he did a double take when he saw the Obama flag with red and white stripes for the first time over the weekend.
“When I saw the picture on the flag, I thought this is wrong,” he said. “I really hate seeing the flag not being respected, and to me this was not respectful.”
Bradford took pictures of the flag and sent them, via email, to friends and veterans groups.
“The general reply has been this is not right,” he said, adding politics has nothing to do with the issue.
“I really don’t care what party it is. If it had been a picture of Romney on the flag, I would have done the same thing,” Bradford said.
Korean War veteran Don Van Beck of Tavares spearheaded the veterans‘ visit to the Lake County Democratic Headquarters, where he was joined by a dozen veterans and media on the front steps of the Main Street building.
“There are laws against desecrating the flag,” Van Beck said, right before he read out loud the federal flag code, public law 344, section 4G to Hurlbert: “The flag should never have placed upon it or any part of it, any marks, insignia, letters, words, figures, designs, picture or drawings of any nature. We would like to ask you to take it down please.”
Hurlbert told Van Beck that she wanted to look up the code first.
“Well, we’re here. I’ll take it down for you,” the veteran said.
“No, this is private property. You’re not allowed to touch anything. I’ll call the police,” Hurlbert said.
“I wish you would,” Van Beck said. “Would you call the police?”
“No, no, no. This is private property and I’ve given you the benefit of the doubt. I said I would d
time and we’ll check it out.”
“You’re in violation of the code,” Van Beck said.
“And I’m saying we’ll check it out,” she said. “Thank you very much.”
Van Beck gave Hurlbert a POW-MIA flag to be installed in place of the Obama flag and offered for the veterans to put it up. Once again Hurlbert reminded Van Beck that he and the other veterans were on private property and if they touched the flag, she would call police.
“It would be nice if you showed respect for our flag,” said veteran John Masterjohn, who voice disapproval for Obama.
“God bless America and our president,” Hurlbert said. “You guys have a wonderful day. Thank you very much.”
The veterans debated their next move before Hurlbert and another volunteer resurfaced to the front yard and began taking down the Obama flag.
“We didn’t know it was in violation and so now we are taking it down,” Hurlbert said. “If somebody had just called ahead of time, we could have avoided all of this.”
Van Beck said he did try to phone to Democratic Headquarters on Monday and also Tuesday morning, but did not make contact with anyone.
Yet, he was pleased with the outcome.
“I’m very happy,” Van Beck said. “I’m sorry it had to come to this … You don’t desecrate the flag, especially for the veterans who fought the wars and died for it. In dictatorships, they have a picture of their dictator on some of the flags, but we haven’t arrived at having a dictator, yet.”
And he never wants to see that happen.
Passerby Ralph Smith applauded the removal of the Obama flag, which he felt was in “bad taste.”
“I’m sure Nancy understands that now,” he said.
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Tsk, tsk. All this brash talk. Such a lack of tolerance.
Dear Leader may have plans to stay in power with his ilk despite a loss in an election.
Did you guys notice he's having big-time campaign contributor dinners at the White House?
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/03/obamas-top-campaign-bundlers-among-state-dinner-guests/ (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/03/obamas-top-campaign-bundlers-among-state-dinner-guests/)
These may be people who like to hang on to power....forget the loudmouth down the street. Stop doing business with people who support BHO.
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Here is a movie that is gaining much relevance in our country today. I'm sure a lot of you have seen it or are aware of the circumstances...but here it is again.
The Battle of Athens: Restoring the Rule of Law
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“There are laws against desecrating the flag,” Van Beck said, right before he read out loud the federal flag code, public law 344, section 4G to Hurlbert: “The flag should never have placed upon it or any part of it, any marks, insignia, letters, words, figures, designs, picture or drawings of any nature.
While I agree with the man and the flag should be burned, he is full of shit.
the Flag Code does not proscribe conduct, but is merely declaratory and advisory.
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“There are laws against desecrating the flag,” Van Beck said, right before he read out loud the federal flag code, public law 344, section 4G to Hurlbert: “The flag should never have placed upon it or any part of it, any marks, insignia, letters, words, figures, designs, picture or drawings of any nature.
While I agree with the man and the flag should be burned, he is full of shit.
the Flag Code does not proscribe conduct, but is merely declaratory and advisory.
As I posted earlier, KMitch is wrong.
Actually it IS law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Flag_Code
It is Chapter 1 of Title 4 of the United States Code (4 U.S.C. § 1 et seq). This is a U.S. federal law,
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As I posted earlier, KMitch is wrong.
And as I posted, the Flag Code does not proscribe conduct, but is merely declaratory and advisory.
That is from the Flag Code.
It is advice like don't talk with your mouth full, look both ways before crossing the street, etc. It mearly specifies proper conduct relating to the flag.
Had the vets in the article actually called the police, the cops wouldn't have done shit.
Nature of Codification of Customs and Rules
The Flag Code is a codification of customs and rules established for the use of certain civilians and civilian groups.
No penalty or punishment is specified in the Flag Code for display of the flag of the United States in a manner other than as suggested.
Cases which have construed the former 36 U.S.C. § 17521 have concluded that the Flag Code does not proscribe conduct, but is merely declaratory and advisory.
http://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/RL30243.pdf
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I am not bashing anyone or looking for a fight, but there have been comments about what someone would do with or too this flag. I will point out that it is an altered United States Flag, and as such it deserves to be treated with the respect given any United States Flag. I am not saying salute it or leave it up. I am saying remove it and destroy it in an appropriate manor. To continue to desecrate this flag is to lower ourselves to the level of Pres. BHO who allowed this.
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I am not bashing anyone or looking for a fight, but there have been comments about what someone would do with or too this flag. I will point out that it is an altered United States Flag, and as such it deserves to be treated with the respect given any United States Flag. I am not saying salute it or leave it up. I am saying remove it and destroy it in an appropriate manor. To continue to desecrate this flag is to lower ourselves to the level of Pres. BHO who allowed this.
I have similar feelings, m58....
My first thought was to get one and use it as a door mat....but I just wouldn't have been able to let myself walk on even a defaced flag.
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I thought his flag was like this:
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090620065617/wikiality/images/1/1f/Obama-communist-flags2.jpg)